Monster Mashup - Table 2 (Inactive)

Game Master CaveToad

Would it be possible for Xanya/Cryxial to flank with Goliath if Cryxial moved to the square SE of the troll (into the tunnel it came from) and Goliath was NE of it? Would Goliath have to be directly NW of it (bottom corner on the square marked one) or could he also be at the top left corner of the room and still provide flanking? I'm not sure how flanking with large characters work. Goliath, what do you think of this idea? Cryxial got enough movement to move 16 squares, more than enough to make it all the way around the troll. Xanya can still attack it from there since it's large. Is it too late to do this now since Goliath already posted his action even though Xanya is before him in initiative?

Since identifying doesn't use an action and I'm probably going to do it at some point during my turn anyway I might as well do it now:
knowledge nature, local, dungeoneering: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (13) + 9 = 22

Either way. If you move to the top left you will have a charge unless it is smart enough to realize this and 5' steps toward you. If you move all away around to the hallway to room 3 and I move top left then yes we can flank. I will wait to move until you do.

No, now that I know it's fine. Though I will probably provoke, so unless it has combat reflexes you won't do so.

Edit: I see that you already moved back, that's ok I guess...

@CT: You should only roll initiative for Xanya, not Cryxial, when she is mounted.

Another thing... If I move to the top left corner of the room, would I be able to charge next turn?

Yeah I just did it in case. I know you are mounted but sometimes indoors it isn't as handy. He still reacts, he just doesn't necessarily go. I could be useful for purposes of flat footedness.

If you move to the NW corner of the room you could charge, but keep in mind your lance's reach and you would have to move to within the creature's threatened space to get the 10' you need. it would be a new round also so he would have a new set of AoO's potentially.

Ride by attack would probably deal with the AoO issue(assuming I find a way to move 15' in a straight line), but it's still the problem of the 5 foot step Goliath mentioned.

Did you miss my questions from the post before that one(about the square 1E of Aster)?

Would it be possible for Xanya/Cryxial to flank with Goliath if Cryxial moved to the square SE of the troll (into the tunnel it came from) and Goliath was NE of it? Would Goliath have to be directly NW of it (bottom corner on the square marked one) or could he also be at the top left corner of the room and still provide flanking? I'm not sure how flanking with large characters work. Goliath, what do you think of this idea? Cryxial got enough movement to move 16 squares, more than enough to make it all the way around the troll. Xanya can still attack it from there since it's large. Is it too late to do this now since Goliath already posted his action even though Xanya is before him in initiative?

Since identifying doesn't use an action and I'm probably going to do it at some point during my turn anyway I might as well do it now:
[dice=knowledge nature, local, dungeoneering]1d20+9

If Goliath was directly NW there would be flanking, but it he was far NW there would technically not be since you have to draw from the middle of the characters' squares and cross through opposite sides/corners of the opponent.

Since Xanya goes first, I take her actions first into account when resolving the round.

Good luck combatants!

EDIT: Actually rereading flanking again.....

Exception: If a flanker takes up more than 1 square, it gets the flanking bonus if any square it occupies counts for flanking.

Goliath would be able to count his upper right square for flanking if he was in the far NW corner and thus provide flank to Xanya/Cryxial if they were directly SE of the creature. So that would be valid. One of the benefits of being big :)

The optimal tactical choice would probably be to cast grease or maybe even drink the mutagen, Xanya doesn't feel like doing either of those things though. Quassine did finish one bottle of Acid right? Does anyone have acid splash, burning hands etc? If it actually is a troll (I think my knowledge check should be high enough to know this), those things might come in handy. Looks to me like Simon has Acid splash. In the future it would be good to have him carry an acid flash for the +1 damage.

I hope people liked my descriptions of Xanya's actions. Also, a shame that "crit" came on the mounted combat roll and not on Xanya's attack :(.

@Simon: I'm curious, but why do you have no offensive summoner spells? It would be great for flexibility if you had grease for example.

Yes you definitely know its a troll :)

Xanya knows that acid and fire will prevent its regeneration, hopefully she can communicate this through the pain and rage and fountain of blood.

Yep, Quassine has (1) bottle of acid.

@CaveToad: I forgot the banner bonus from Simon. The troll should have taken 1 more damage. Also does it somehow ignore Xanya's DR?

Ok, noted. No it doesn't ignore your DR. You will get 3 hp back ;)

I was still able to update the post with total damage 33 instead of 36.

After Simon does his action can I get to know the result of Cryxial's attacks before you post the actions for the troll? I might want to use a hero point for an extra attack here...

Ikik has failed 50% of his aid this combat, only 10% chance to do so :(. On the third attack last round it would actually have made a difference as well. Of course Xanya failing by rolling 1s would probably be a bigger problem.

Where is your healing 5 coming from? If its your tumor familiar, only your tumor gets that, not you.

"When attached to the alchemist, the tumor has fast healing 5"

Basically it lets the tumor heal up if it was damaged. The alchemist doesn't get this, unless you are using some other trick.

Spontanous Healing Discovery. I though I did say what I used.

Spontanous Healing Discovery. I though I did say what I used.

Lol, I thought that was just your flavor text for it! I see now. I wsa confused because its the same amount a tumor familiar heals.

Carry on!

@Simon: The movement you just did provokes... You might not want to do that. Also if you move Aster 1 square to the left(still only a 5 foot) it would be easier for Quassine and Kiki to join the fray.

@CT:Can I delay my turn until after Goliath, moving to initiative 16 then 5 foot steps to provide flanking to both Quassine and Aster(not for this round, since he goes before me) or is that too late now?

I thought he already used that this turn?

If he could provoke, Simon moves behind Aster instead.

I thought he already used that this turn?

If he could provoke, Simon moves behind Aster instead.

Relevant actions were:

Ok, is that where I am for Round 2? Kiki and I can take up the same square correct? If not can I be behind Kiki. I am not sure where I was so I don't know if I have any movement remaining?

Ok, is that where I am for Round 2? Kiki and I can take up the same square correct? If not can I be behind Kiki. I am not sure where I was so I don't know if I have any movement remaining?

You start your round two exactly 30 feet away from the Troll. You can move to it and attack, but you would provoke if you do so (it's 20 feet to get to the square Kiki occupies). If CT allows me to 5 foot step one west as described above you would even get sneak attack.

It would make things easier if people had the correct AC on their sheet(including mage armor), though I guess Xanya is (again) the only one getting attacked.

I adjusted my stats bar to reflect mage armor.

Is psionic blast SP or SU? Dazing it for one round would be huge.

I'm pretty sure you can share space with Kiki since she is two sizes smaller. For example stealth has rules for hiding under creatures two sizes bigger. You could probably hit it with the blast from there and then you wouldn't have to provoke. Throwing an acid flask from there would provoke though I think.

The Psionic Blast is Ps or similar to SP but Psionic.

Sorry guys SCA meeting and dinner night, just got home catching up now.

I tried doing FCA in middle school, but really should have just been called the Percy Jackson Fan Club...

Psionic blast extends 30' cone and all creatures struck must roll save vs Will DC 15. Then again from my current position, I think only Aster is in the way.

You can angle it so it hits only Xanya and the troll. Xanya got +13 on the roll so only fails on a 1. Though thinking about it Xanya would be protected by the wall eh?

Ok gang, I am back this morning. Will read through all the posts and get the next round rolling.

Stay tuned!

@Simon: The movement you just did provokes... You might not want to do that. Also if you move Aster 1 square to the left(still only a 5 foot) it would be easier for Quassine and Kiki to join the fray.

@CT:Can I delay my turn until after Goliath, moving to initiative 16 then 5 foot steps to provide flanking to both Quassine and Aster(not for this round, since he goes before me) or is that too late now?

Well, I guess I will allow it. It seems a little metagamey, although Xanya would probably be thinking tactics, knowing or hoping that Quassine and Kiki will arrive from that direction. The timing might be a little too convenient and she is raging and wounded, but I am inclined to allow it because I am so generous :)

... plus the troll will kill and eat you all anyhow.

I put a few 30' cone templates on the map for Quassine's Psionic Blast. The one overlayed currently would work best, and the wall will protect Xanya from it.

Given I can't see the map;

In which Xanya is safe, I will need to use the blast defensively, correct?

Actually if Xanya did take her 5' step after her attack which she asked about, she would be in the area of the Psiblast cone (although her save almost guaranteed).

Can you access the forums on your phone?

Also FYI everyone, I will be traveling today and hanging with friends this weekend out of town. I will try to pop in later tonight, but posting might be sporadic this weekend.

Given I can't see the map;

In which Xanya is safe, I will need to use the blast defensively, correct?

Eh, I'll just skip on the 5 foot... Unless you want me to do it anyway?

@Quassine: You have a much greater chance of succeding to cast if you don't cast defensively. Your AC is 24-26 due to cover from the corner, so the troll would need to roll 17 or something to hit. However to succed to cast you would need to beat DC 17 with a modifier of +5, which means you need a 12. Of course casting defensively would mean no risk to Quassine. He seems quite risk averse so casting defensively might be more fitting, Xanya would certainly have risked it though.

@CT: Do you allow drawing the flask to count as drawing a weapon? If so Quassine could draw it while moving since he had +1 BAB right?

Can you access the forums on your phone?

I can, thank you! I will just access the map that way. Although, I can not yet manipulate it.

@CT: Do you allow drawing the flask to count as drawing a weapon? If so Quassine could draw it while moving since he had +1 BAB right?

I can since I have the skill to do so. The problem is, I should use it until we can make sure we can kill it with the flask. It only does 1d6 damage or 6 points of splash.

I moved Xanya 5 foot for round 3. She is still behind the wall for round 2.

@Goliath: Have you seen the item Effortless Lance? It's incredible for you, especially if CT allows you to transform your weapon into huge (either using the points or through the duplication ritual). @CT: Would you allow that?

I suppose you need to keep a separate tally of experience for Goliath. It would be nice if he could catch up somehow, so we don't have to worry about the difference. maybe give him 24% of the experience while everyone else gets 19% until we are even?

Gotta figure out a couple things real quick so I can post.

If Aster takes a five foot step diagonally down and left, would he be blocking Goliath from hitting it?

In he wouldn't be, after he does that, would Quas be able to throw the acid without it hitting Aster?

Gotta figure out a couple things real quick so I can post.

If Aster takes a five foot step diagonally down and left, would he be blocking Goliath from hitting it?

In he wouldn't be, after he does that, would Quas be able to throw the acid without it hitting Aster?

He would. Quassine could target top right corner.

With Goliath ' s XP, I'd honestly be fine with him getting a boost to our level. It's reasonable that his group would've been attacked by goatlings and that he could've faced some challenge getting to us.

I'd rather have the ease of everyone on the same XP track, than penalizing him for having a character in later than us.

Anyone disagree? I mean, if he's helping out by being a 5th person we needed when Card dropped, I think it's fair that he gets to stay on track with us. Not to mention it's one less thing to keep track of in five tables worth of incredibly complicated characters.

Then, could someone do me a favor of moving Aster there and Simon into the doorway? I'm at school on my phone, so I can't change the map.

Done. Though I think it's much better for Aster to move 1W, then he would get flanking with Xanya.

But that would provoke, no?

And he can only take a 5 foot so he can full attack.

But that would provoke, no?

And he can only take a 5 foot so he can full attack.

Huh?? That's only 5 foot as well. I meant to move W instead of SW.

@Simon, Quassine: I hope you don't mind the tactical suggestions. If you do, please tell me and I'll stop. I know some people hate them.

Tactical suggestions are ok but we should do it in character because most of the time speaking is a free action and end the meta gaming. Like with all suggestions, I take them into consideration but may not necessarily act upon them. If the troll does not fall, I am going to Psionic Blast him. In order, to kill it we need to poor the acid on top of it when it is unconscious or it will not do enough damage to stop the regeneration. The flask only does 1d6 points of direct damage and 6 points of splash and there is negative hit points with regeneration to tend with. Now that was with one of my old GMs, if CT does something different, then I will consider throwing it. Lastly, the flask is only a 1 round only burn.

I can't find effortless lance. What is it?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/specific-magic-weapons/ef fortless-lace

@Quassine: Since Simon has acid splash we don't need the flask to finish it off, we can just use that when it's at greater negative GP than it's con.