Making It Big In The Big City (Inactive)

Game Master PirateDevon

I was going to have him dump it all over the floor without tasting it, but then remembered that such is far beyond the rules of society and wouldn't go over well with the guards. Oh well.

I honesty feel that is a very accurate portrayal of how Harrison would react to such a situation. He had indeed attempted to sneak up so that he might figure out what was going on, but upon finding out who it was, he had hoped to go upstairs and retrieve the documents from the safe so that he might bring forth what he had found to our Kealdwar. I kind of hope that his rather honest display of emotion will throw Kealdwar off as well.

Eragar, that would have been hilarious!

My rolls have turned abysmal...however I myself get the feeling as if somethign more than meets the eye is going on here. Those guards are armed to the teeth and all of Kealdwar's pacing makes me think of a gambling man caught in a bad spot.

That being said, I think he'll use a spell if that check fails.

Blah, I can't believe these rolls...

Also, I just realized that Sense Motive takes at least a minute to do so he'll use his Adaptable Luck on the Sense Motive Check instead.

Unless he has a warrant, you can kick him out--you could even just use your own security team and not bother with the guard.
Note that there are slightly different rules for guardsmen, as well as for civilians of sufficient rank or influence (aka. if you kick out someone who can make lots of paperwork for the government, then the government's gonna find some way to make you pay for it)

I just wanted to have my bases covered. Sometimes a simple hint can do wonders.

I had been thinking of the same thing. One of my shorter term goals is to purchase a rank/fame that allows me to serve as a law enforcement individual in limited circumstances...like running out bar. Heh.

That said its why I chose the contacts I did, so that if I did kick someone out I would have the right kind of people to help smooth the issue over (I hope)

As I said in the thread, I'm tempted to see if Harrison could turn the pesky Halfling into a friend of the establishment. That or I could start up a public campaign to have him removed from office.

Yeah...Harrison...I do not know that Mael would let things progress that far. If he continues this type of behavior and push his luck, then he is going to disappear.

That would be interesting. Osk wants to strangle him because now he is trying to extort even MORE...don't know if anyone other than me caught that.

Oh, I did...and I think Tirkala would also not be opposed. We could arrange it discreetly, or make it look like an accident. In any event, I hope he sees the errors of his ways in messing with us before he pushes it too far.

I was under the impression Osk was talking about it would be interesting to befriend him. He's still Lawful.

And of course he's going to push his luck. We're fresh meat.

Its kinda funny that all of us except for our boss lady want to kill the guy and just be done with him. You've done a great job at making him a guy we love to hate.

I'm not,Lucky, and I am losing my patience with this guy. It is only for the sake of the establishment and those lawful party members that I have already not done something. I will not sit idly by for much longer. That would be out of character.

Martin lost his patience. :) He finished eating breakfast and the scumbag was still yammering. Wonder if this will shut him up, finally.

Tirkala is not helping any... She's trying to both make the tax collector feel like an idiot and goad him into accepting Martin's challenge.

What is the reception towards duelling in Absalom? If it's at least somewhat legal, Cedany will just keep out of it and see if he accepts, if it's not, she'll try and calm things down a little (if she really has no idea, she'll probably just trust that Martin isn't going to get himself in too much trouble and leave him to it).

Oh, well done, Martin and Tirkala. I am anxious to see how this plays out. A public challenge - genious!

Cool, so let's threaten a city official in front of guards for accusations that none of you, but Harrison has any evidence to back up considering the only thing he pretty much told any of you was the pure fact that he had the situation under control. Thusly opening up the possiblity of getting one or more of us arrested in the process, bringing further scrutiny down on the establishment that we are performing illegal operations in. How quickly do you think this will blow over in court as a clerical error? A simple oversight of a law? I doubt Kealdwar has been in his position for long without some type of connection to help him get out of such situations.

Edit: I also would like to know what the laws of Absalom have to say about challenges.

Lucky, you need calm down a bit. Although Absalom is a civilized law abiding city for the most part, people disappear all of the time. There are three potential paths; our little pain in the neck can be discreetly dealt with (my preference), you can rectify things above-board and legally (your preference), or there can be a public hue and cry against his methods and means (Martin's approach). I think that all three avenues could be successful. Martin's method is just as good as anyone else's, and yours may end up proving to be the very best, if the challenge is simply ignored. This is what RP is all about. Let's see what shakes out.

Dueling has only been against the law in the western world for a little over a hundred years. It would not be unlawful or even uncommon back in the 1500's when most DND based games are set. Its still justifiable in Texas to shoot your mate and their partner for adultry

Edit: That and well, frankly what else am I or the rest of us supposed to do. this arsehat woke us all up, not just you our house lawyer Harrison. If it were up to me, He never would have even come inside. I would have thrown him and the guards into the street 'for trespassing' for that matter, before Cedany was even awoken.

It IS extremely boring watching two halflings yammer about paperwork, especially when my Halfling told me and the rest of us that the other Halfling is 100% in the wrong and just being the equivalent of a dooshbag, and bully.

The way you deal with bully is punch them in the nuts then stab them in the throat.

Dueling is perfectly acceptable--so long as the duel takes place outside city limits (unless it's a super-powerful caster fight that creates the Mana Wastes. But then, who's gonna stop you).

Well, it appears as if Lucky will get the chance to air his greivances to the superior officer over the accusations by the letter of the law. Mayhap this will end the issue.

Hopefully it will.

Harrison - I don't get why you want to befriend this guy.. We have teams of bureaucrat's that serve the exact same roll as him, and are serving the exact same role that you are trying to step into.

That's why we have bureaucrat's so we don't have to deal with crap like this punk is trying to pull.

Guys, why are we getting into an OOC conflict about this? It's just a game.

Tirkala has been messing with the guy a bit ever since he arrived, but she has been doing it under the guise of just being a regular employee... and, for the most part, it's just her messing with the mind of someone who massively irritates her.

Though, she does see the slap as going too far... that might be assault, and might get Martin arrested.

I see the slap as a part of the formal challenge, because he refused to pick up martin's gauntlet.

(not trying to fight interparty, just literally no clue why lucky or any of us would care to befriend the guy.. before we went to sleep, everyone wanted to either kill or ship the guy across the world in a barrel, as a character nothing has happened that would make martin think otherwise.)

I think the OOC discussion is healthy. It helps us to describe how and why our characters are reacting the way that they are. It can only help to bring us closer as a group with further understanding of our motivations and tactics. "In game" disagreements are bound to continue with such a diverse group with independent motivations behind the common goal of success for the Spirit Gallery, and the OOC discussion may just minimize these disagreements.

Okay. Just, the tone of the posts had me wondering a bit. Some it seems to be a bit personal, and that always worries me.

I've seen good groups permanently destroyed by it getting personal.

Me too, and it was certainly never my intent to have this be a personal disagreement, or a discussion of RL points of view. I am just trying to play the character as he would live the situation, as we all are, I believe.

Martin is not ME. I too am just acting as he would so. Martin troad the crossroads between NG/CG/LN/CN. Sometimes one must do an evil act to serve the greater good. That's why martin could never become a paladin, he did try before he went adventuring.. but didn't get far enough along to fall. :)

WOW guys....go to bed and then have a busy morning at work and look at THIS...heh.

For me Osk would be leaning more with Harrison than Martin/Mael/Tirk. The guys is an ass but a political creature with power is worth more than a foe. Besides, Osk cares about keeping everybody safe so though he understands and even may condone violence in many circumstances he would probably have played this a little less intensely.

It should be noted that we could duel in town...in the Irorium... but given that that is basically The Colosseum....I'm not exactly surprised he would say no. I suppose there are smaller venues but if Martin has the pins I imagine that is where he calling him out to. LOL

Funny that the brawler is the other political creature of the group. But that is why I gave him some brains :p

I also think it is hilarious that we already are like a "family" at a holiday dinner. Crazy uncle Martin just slapped the local asshat and now half the family is shaking its head and the other half is chuckling behind their hands.

I also think it is hilarious that we already are like a "family" at a holiday dinner. Crazy uncle Martin just slapped the local asshat and now half the family is shaking its head and the other half is chuckling behind their hands.

Bwahahaha! I think this sums it up perfectly!

Ohh Osk, you just made me laugh so very hard there. That is great, thanks I needed that :D

Ohh Osk, you just made me laugh so very hard there. That is great, thanks I needed that :D

Well one of my traits is that my intimidation is wit (int) based...I thought it fit.

I'm about done with these rolls... >.>

And it doesn't hurt for us to voice our opinion on things. We just have a lot of characters that have a range of different mindsets.

As for Kaeldwar, I think Osk summed it up pretty well. There is a big difference between having some bureaucrats in your office and having one in the government's office.

That's above my paygrade :)

I'm about done with these rolls... >.>

The paizo dicebot can be brutal. I had.six month window kn my Legacy of Fire game where I didnt roll above 4. I joked at the time that maybe it was mad I hadn't bought enough product lately...

Paizo dicebot. It's truly random with a slight skew based on how much you spend in our store.

That would explain why my rolls are always high for a couple days after I buy something...

I apologize to everyone for not posting recently. I think I'm getting sick or something; can't figure out how to write up new stuff.

It doesn't help that the forums were down for a couple of days either.

Or that the forums have eaten posts.

Eragar, please get to feeling better!

That bites, hope its not what I just went through.. that sucked, even if I do generally get one or the other every year.

Had a bit of a combination of family emergency and forum troubles myself, though I should be back to normal now, if the forum starts behaving.

Anybody have any thoughts as to a map of the Spirit Gallery? We have been roleplaying the existence of rooms, offices and lodgings, but I think that a map would help.

I would have to concur that a map would be useful. If nothing else, for a reference.

each of the components rooms has a size of squares listed in UC or on the sites. Ive got reams of graph paper. I could whip something up and scan it. But I think if any of us do that it should be Cedany as your the bosslady and its Your Inn. Ill draft up the pier.

I simply want to know where my office is (by the Gameroom) and where my bedroom is, and the quarters of the Prostitutes. I think it would be helpful to have some defensive capabilities up front as well.