(Icehawk's) Spread of fire (Inactive)

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M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

*groan*

Enough dr. Who.

Ug.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Sorry, just passing the time till whoever hasn't gone yet posts


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Actually, I've just got to cycle the turn over.

I'm a little busy to do a real post though.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Fair enough
Like I said, just killing time


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hurray.
Inter-party strife against a monster that's tougher then i thought it would be.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Really hoping it's nauseated that will be a big help
As for "way tougher than it's supposed to be" we're level 3 and you sent at us a monster that it's base is a strong CR but that you've increased at least the size and I believe HP of


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

See, but it's the only encounter of the day.

I'm trying to get single-encounters to work, and yet, i never manage.

Honestly, I'm already about ready to write this off as a failure and move on.

A regular owlbear would have been a joke.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

I know I'm an awful dm.

Can't strike a balance worth crap.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

This encounter or this campaign


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

The campain. If i can't do the first encounter right...


It's fine. I'm the only one making bad decisions

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

I'd feel better about the encounter if we had any healing
But all we have is a paladin and he's gone AWOL


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

In battle healing is a wasted action...


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Not really, healing keeps the tank alive
2d8+3 might allow me to survive round 2


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Or you could deal 2d8+3 to the thing dealing the damage, and fell it faster, so it can't deal more damage.

Or, you could cast something far smarter then a inflict spell, like summon monster.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Except healing is guaranteed
and I can only do 2d6 with a large trident you'd need a huge trident to deal 2d8
And a summon is unlikely (in this instance) be unlikely to get him to switch targets


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Inflict moderate instead of heal moderate, not you attacking.

And that matters why?

I'm failing to see the logic here. Winning Is the goal, yes?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Unless you can out heal the owlbear's damage, you've done nothing.

Assuming you roll max with that heal, and the owlbear rolls all ones on damage, the owlbear would still KO you.

Wait, no. You would be left at 0.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Ok
With everything other than healing spells you can miss and completely waste your turn
With a healing spell you could help the tank survive so the casters don't get one shotted
If healing is useless in battle than so are tanks
And you (not to mention ED) thought I was OP


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12
icehawk333 wrote:

Unless you can out heal the owlbear's damage, you've done nothing.

Assuming you roll max with that heal, and the owlbear rolls all ones on damage, the owlbear would still KO you.

Wait, no. You would be left at 0.

you forget my point he can miss

If he can't miss against a defense specialist either A) your creature is unbelievingly OP for the party or B) I failed completely when making this character


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hmm?
One, tanks don't have much of a point.

I said your class, to some degree, was a disk one nuke.

Your build, however....


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Is there something wrong with my build?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:

Unless you can out heal the owlbear's damage, you've done nothing.

Assuming you roll max with that heal, and the owlbear rolls all ones on damage, the owlbear would still KO you.

Wait, no. You would be left at 0.

you forget my point he can miss

If he can't miss against a defense specialist either A) your creature is unbelievingly OP for the party or B) I failed completely when making this character

Obviously, i failed, and as such i should quit.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
Is there something wrong with my build?

"Wrong?" No, definitely not. It just doesn't use the biggest disk one nuke features, making it about as good as other marital classes at this level.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

If you keep quitting you'll never get better


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12
icehawk333 wrote:
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
Is there something wrong with my build?
"Wrong?" No, definitely not. It just doesn't use the biggest disk one nuke features, making it about as good as other marital classes at this level.

what disk one nuke features do you refer to?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
If you keep quitting you'll never get better

You're either good or you're not. Watching others should have been good Enough, and as it was not i will not be good enough in the end to justify the work to get there, as i will be nowhere near the metaphorical top.

You do things to be good at them.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
Marco Theseus Cain wrote:
Is there something wrong with my build?
"Wrong?" No, definitely not. It just doesn't use the biggest disk one nuke features, making it about as good as other marital classes at this level.
what disk one nuke features do you refer to?

Mostly the early game enchantment bonuses to stats, and the size increase to a two handed weapon.

Also, power attack + furious focus is something lacking.

Though, that would only give +3 to damage at this level.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

If that were the case I should have been just at good at RP now as I was two years ago, after all I read, I watch other people RP, that kinda stuff
but I'm not
I've improved significantly since then
Looking back in my first campaign I did crap
Even as short a time back as beginning Avalon I've improved a great deal, if I had the same degree of skill then as I do now, I would have done a lot of things differently


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

No, you do get better.

But only to a certain degree.

If you aren't good enough to start with, when you end, you won't be close enough to the "top" to justify your efforts.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

No seriously my RP with my first DM was absolutely crap
Nowadays I think my RP is pretty decent to say the least
Continual process improvement, so long as you got that you'll do fine,
"We try things, sometimes they even work" keep trying find out what works for you and what doesn't
If it works, do it again, if it doesn't try something new
And even if you don't "make it close to the top" it's not being better than others that should justify your actions, it's being better than you used to be, and enjoying yourself/bringing such enjoyment to others

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

As a note, I'm perfectly fine with rolling up a new character
Let's me try out new concepts


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Lord Foul II wrote:

As a note, I'm perfectly fine with rolling up a new character

Let's me try out new concepts

This should not be a concern one encounter into the game.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

so you made a mistake, it happens,
looking back I see several places I could have done better,
one such example that comes immediately to mind is that I could have used my astral skin suit, and put on armor made out of a special material, I could have had more DR from that and have not wasted my Dex bonus


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Just waiting for victor so i can get this train wreck moving again.


It's not a train wreck. We're just making our own mistakes. It happens.


Male Human Fighter1 HP 12 / 14 | AC 15, touch 9, flat-footed 15 | Fort +4, Ref -1, Will -2 | Init -1 Perc -1

I am trying to decide what to do, most of my best stuff are area effect and will definitely hurt party members.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Doesn't daze have a HD limit >.<


Male Human Fighter1 HP 12 / 14 | AC 15, touch 9, flat-footed 15 | Fort +4, Ref -1, Will -2 | Init -1 Perc -1

yeah 4HD or less, but i don't know how many HD the thing has. so I can do that or blast it and damage whoever the thing is holding as well.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

You have another casting of snowball...

Daze also only works on humanoids...


Male Drow (noble) 14 Ranger

Did I hurt it?


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Yes.
You hit both times.

I just like to update it all in one post.


Male Human Fighter1 HP 12 / 14 | AC 15, touch 9, flat-footed 15 | Fort +4, Ref -1, Will -2 | Init -1 Perc -1

alright then whatever, ill throw a snowball. so when the dice gods show their ugly face and I end up killing a party member instead...


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Victor, how would that even happen?
That's not even possible.


Male Human Fighter1 HP 12 / 14 | AC 15, touch 9, flat-footed 15 | Fort +4, Ref -1, Will -2 | Init -1 Perc -1

nevermind Ice...just being negative again...


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Marko, i dotn think the crystal shard actually increases in damage from your str, and it's a ranged weapon, so it uses dex to hit and you take a -4 for firing into melee.


Male (M) Elan soulknife (shielded blade) 6/aegis (abarent) 3
passive defenses:
DR 2/- Saves Fort +7 reflex +6 will 10 AC 25 ff 23, t 13) CMD 12

Thrown weapons get your str to damage
And one point is from a feat
I'm already usin my dex to hit in the calculation
But I didn't include the minus 4 for for firing into melee so that's a miss


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

I suppose it is similar enough to a thrown weapon.


If you're really regretting changing it that much, I'd be fine with canceling everything and starting over with a normal owl bear.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

I'm regretting using something that has KO'ed two party members and is still slightly above half HP. I assumed that everyone was more optimized then they were, and wound up putting out something far higher then i should.

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