GM Tyranius The Devil We Know Part: 4 (Inactive)

Game Master Tyranius

It can be a tricky thing to decide.

I’m willing to chip in! What’s the etiquette in this situation?

As far as the rest of the table is concerned, there really isn't any etiquette or expectations. If I choose to ask, you may choose to help or choose not to help. The only etiquette comes into play on behalf of the player with the dead character. It is my responsibility to handle what I want to do, so if I ask and someone chooses not to help, it is really really bad form if I were to cajole, beg, or otherwise be an a$$ about it.

I have seen this go both ways, and most people are really good about offering up help when someone dies. Some do it on a "its right to help each other out" philosophy, and others do it on a "If it were me.." philosophy, but ultimately the decision is up to me to ask for help if I need it, and then for you to choose if you want to participate. Always remember Rule Number 1: Don't be a jerk! ;-)

It can be a tricky thing to decide.

It really can be! I resurrected my Tiefling when he died because 1) I had the resources available, 2) he died well after they were no longer a playable option. 3) I really liked who he was turning into.

Senach is a run of the mill paladin of a race that is still open, and I have used no boons on him that I would miss. Honestly, I am leaning towards not resurrecting him, based upon those points and upon the fact that I never really found his voice and niche. Almost all of my characters have a voice and personality that grow as I play them.. its no longer me making the choices, its them making the choices through me, you know? Senach never found his voice, and I am hesitant to ask for help resurrecting him because of that. Of course, that may be the schtick he needed to build from, but still..

Makes sense to me! Vulpina’s a little tricky, and Senach is the first PC death she (or in fact I) have ever seen, so she’s going to be willing to pony up 1500gp for him, provided we get at least 350gp at the end of this module. She’s taken a liking to everyone (except Phoebee :P), primarily the other “beastlier” races in the group.

That said, if we don’t revive him, Vulpina will be discretely interested in finding out if divine snakeskin makes for a good ammo pouch. +1 to overcome DR/good?

That said, if we don’t revive him, Vulpina will be discretely interested in finding out if divine snakeskin makes for a good ammo pouch. +1 to overcome DR/good?

Dear god, I'm rolling!! LMAO

I'll kick in.

After selling off all but his holy symbol and text but not counting anything from this chronicle, Senach will have a total of 1,414 gp and 10 pp to his name. I could not possibly ask yall to basically spend your entire earnings for this scenario on a raise dead spell.

I do, however, plan to lurk in the shadows and root yall on!! Maybe in the future I will get a chance to replay this scenario and survive!

The offer is there Senach, but I respect your decision.

The chronicle comes out at 1250 gp ea for 3-4 Sub Tier.

OOT would be 628 gp.

5450 Raise Dead
-1414 (Senach)
_______
4036 gp left

Which divide by the remaining 4 party members would come to 1009 gp each. give or take whether some people wish to chip in more or less or not at all as it is ultimately your choice. (And Senach's if he even wants to save the Paladin- though it would be good character development for him.)

I figured recover body was of no use as you killed the bad guy and are in a very well populated city and not stuck out in the wilderness or another plane of existence.

If you did decide to raise dead. You all might have enough to even complete it now gaining you full rewards and gold as well.

If you did decide to raise dead. You all might have enough to even complete it now gaining you full rewards and gold as well.

It never occurred to me that you could do this mid-scenario! If so, that means reviving him is useful to us specifically.

Do we still have enough people to continue the scenario?

I know I would be sad if this character died. I really like her. She is a lot of fun.

Yes the minimum for a table is 4

The chronicle comes out at 1250 gp ea for 3-4 Sub Tier.

OOT would be 628 gp.

5450 Raise Dead
-1414 (Senach)
_______
4036 gp left

Which divide by the remaining 4 party members would come to 1009 gp each. give or take whether some people wish to chip in more or less or not at all as it is ultimately your choice. (And Senach's if he even wants to save the Paladin- though it would be good character development for him.)

I figured recover body was of no use as you killed the bad guy and are in a very well populated city and not stuck out in the wilderness or another plane of existence.

If you did decide to raise dead. You all might have enough to even complete it now gaining you full rewards and gold as well.

I never even considered a raise dead mid scenario.. I've never seen that happen and didn't know it was possible.

Sorry I've been MIA for a few days. Down with a bad cold. Better now.

There's also the option to split the cost of raise dead between PP and gold.

*You can buy raise dead using 16 PP, 5,450 gp, or 8 PP and 2,450 gp.

If Senach uses 8 of his 10PP, that reduces the amount of gold needed to about 500gp per person. I think most people prefer this route seeing how gold tends to be more scarce than PP. However, the rest of us would have to chip in the PP needed for restoration.

I don't mind chipping in the gold and/or PP whichever way we go. Kazu has little use of PP, except to save for spellcasting services anyway.

And yeah, that death could easily have been any of us. Kazu would definitely have been a goner if that blow hits him.

Well now. I am learning things all over the place today.. Is that source from the Guild Guide Kazu??

Edit: well no $hit.. I completely missed that! I wonder when that changed.

Looking over the numbers, 2450-1414=1036 /4= 259 gold each. (and I could easily pay it back from the chronicle gold.) If yall wanted to chip in the PP for the neg levels, then that's fine, but its not necessary. I would have to scavenge some armor and a weapon but this is much more palatable than me asking each of you for 1000 gold. As Kazu said, gold is hard to come by and 1000 gold can make a big difference, especially at lower levels.

I will leave it up to you. If you would be willing to chip in gold that I can repay at the end of the chronicle, then I will accept it. Thank you, Kazu for finding that!!!

Normally mid scenario isn't much of an option but in this case you are in the middle of a very large city. It would only take a few hours of your time as your comrades drag you down the streets.

Granted you would only be able to do one of the restorations now and the other after the scenario is over. Restoration can only be used in that manner once a week.

1)Would my absence for the rest of the scenario be that hard on the rest of the group or would they likely be ok?
~ I don't want to take their money if its not going to be a big deal, but I also don't want my decision to lead to more deaths down the road.

There is still some deadly areas in this scenario, though not nearly as bad as the scary elemental.

2)I assume I would be allowed to divide my earnings for the chronicle back to the group as a partial repayment??

As far as I am aware you can't gift gold to other players. You can buy an item and give it on loan but have to take it back at the end of the scenario.

3)I would use 4 of my 10 PP to remove negative levels, would I be allowed to purchase some basic equipment with PP at the time of resurrection or could I scavenge some gear to make it through?

You should still be able to use the PP to purchase 1 item up to 750 gp. Though it can only be used once per scenario.

2)I assume I would be allowed to divide my earnings for the chronicle back to the group as a partial repayment??

As far as I am aware you can't gift gold to other players. You can buy an item and give it on loan but have to take it back at the end of the scenario.

:-) Exactly.. They are loaning me the money to pay for a resurrection and I am paying it back at the end of the scenario! They can't necessarily take back my resurrection lol.

One way or another, it definitely seems doable—and at this rate it won’t even slow me down much for getting that pepperbox I’ve been eyeing!

She has been saving up for even chain which she should qualify to get after this scenario.

Where I am right now:
After selling off everything, then buying absolutely basic armor and weapon I am at 1386 gp.

I would like to use 8PP/ 2450 gp for a raise dead spell and am 1064 gp short. If each of you would be willing and can contribute 266 gold, I would be deeply indebted to you and will do my best within the rules to pay you back.

I am not really worried about the negative levels right now.. that can all be dealt with later.

No judgement and no hard feelings if anyone can't or decides not to help out.

Mardak will contribute 266.

Happy New Year.

Vulpina will happily contribute, and cover anyone who doesn’t want to chip in. Having a Paladin in Vulpina’s debt will be... good.

Hope everyone had a Happy New Years!

:-) Exactly.. They are loaning me the money to pay for a resurrection and I am paying it back at the end of the scenario! They can't necessarily take back my resurrection lol.

Ah yup. I got you. As long as make it to the end should be fine.

So far I have Just need amounts for chronicles, though won't matter as long as Senach survives the scenario:

Senach- 8 PP / 1386 GP
Mardak- 266 GP

(798 gp left to cover)

Hope everyone had a Happy New Years!

Senach wrote:

:-) Exactly.. They are loaning me the money to pay for a resurrection and I am paying it back at the end of the scenario! They can't necessarily take back my resurrection lol.

Ah yup. I got you. As long as make it to the end should be fine.

So far I have Just need amounts for chronicles, though won't matter as long as Senach survives the scenario:

Senach- 8 PP / 1386 GP
Mardak- 266 GP

(798 gp left to cover)

Make sure to mark me down for at least 266gp!

So we should get the gold back by the end of the scenario?

Kazu is good for the gold. And also contribute 4pp to cast restoration on Senach. Hey, we need all the fighting power we can get! :) And honestly, no need to worry about paying back the 266gp for my case. Kazu's built is not very equipment heavy. And as I said, the one going down could easily have been Kazu.

Correct, Sounds as if Senach survives the scenario he is willing to pay back all who want it.

Senach- 8 PP / 1386 GP
Mardak- 266 GP
Lady Vulpina- 266 GP
Kazu- 266 gp/ 4pp for 1 Restoration

(266 gp left to cover)

Thank you so very much!

She is willing to lend the rest of the gold.

We are on a different day right now arent we?

A different day than what? So far, as far as I know, the whole module has been the same day-- we just took like a couple hours' diversion to put our snake back together.

Okay. I wasnt sure if this is the same day that the pally died or the next day.

Yup. Same day. Just spent a couple hours resurrecting your dead.

Okay bee :)

Today’s lesson: under no circumstances should I let the GM roll for me, if I can help it :P

Haha! I promise I will only be rolling perception checks for traps or surprise rounds as it slows down PbP something fierce calling out checks for stuff like that.

I put a 10-ft square where I want Vulpina's grease to go, fyi. I think that makes the most sense?

Don't know if it is too late but perhaps you want to ready to cast the grease only when it moves forward? Otherwise, the melee guys would have to wade through the grease to get to the undead.

I forgot I could ready spells; yeah, GM, mind if we do what Kazu said? Effectively the same thing, just... smarter. Should still definitely be within range, even from across the sewage.

GM, can I shoot from a few spaces west?

Yup, You should have line of sight from a few spaces west.

Excellent, thank you. c: Another question:

If an enemy (say, a ghast) is standing on a Greased square, could I use Mage Hand to try to unsettle his stance and make him roll his Reflex save again?

I dont think mage hand works that way.

I dont think mage hand works that way.

I mean, not explicitly, but in theory there's a few things one could do with it that, while not necessarily dealing damage, might make someone who's standing on an excessively slippery surface have to renew their balance.

Like winging a 5-pound rock at their ankle.

Or "grabbing" his ankle and yanking, but that violates the "non-magical, unattended object" clause.

Basically, it wouldn't be enough for a Trip combat maneuver, but even a slight stumble on that surface could build into a chain reaction.

Just spitballing :P

Unfortunately mage hand wouldn't work in that manner.

Target: one non-magical, unattended object weighing up to 5 lbs.

Which means that the creature can't even be a target as it weighs much more than that.

Unfortunately mage hand wouldn't work in that manner.

Target: one non-magical, unattended object weighing up to 5 lbs.

Which means that the creature can't even be a target as it weighs much more than that.

What are my odds of putting a 5-pound-or-less rock under his feet, or throwing one at his ankle? I know I can't get a Trip combat maneuver out of it, but if I can get him to reroll his Reflex save...

There is a psychic spell, telekinetic projecticle, that lets you throw things at people.

Dear all, really sorry. A crisis came up at work this week and things are a bit crazy right now. I just got home from a 16hr day today, and things don't look like they will improve just yet. I believe the situation will improve past this weekend. Please bot me freely.