Yow. Go away for three little hours and the posting breaks into a sprint.
We've got two party members taking the gunfighter's walk. You in?
+14 Diplomacy disagrees.
At the very worst, I get my daily amount of worship in today.
Fearn doesn't know a +14 diplomacy from black hole or a quasar. Fearn does know he's pretty smooth. If you want to Mavis wants to do the talking, use your diplomacy while we walk to the captain.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Viluki. Looks like none of us three are doing the talking.
When I can't be an arcanist I can be a very mean and good "creative user of words in a non-arcane context" rogue.
I really hope that this doesn't end up poorly. Rumormonger takes a week to go into effect, you know that, right? And you might also get penalties based on the believability of the lie if Cy thinks they're applicable-- a -10 might be in the cards there.
Note that my "speech" is perfectly suited for this. Has history not shown us that power corrupts those who wield it?
I really don't like the idea of metagaming out skill checks, but I'm cool if you'd like to take a lead in the conversation and roll the primary while I aid? I sometimes forget that PbP doesn't use my group's houserule where whoever is convincing has the diplomancy-specced character back them up and then they both roll, take the highest as primary and the other aids. I'll answer but not answer your question so that you can maybe jump in and provide your +14 to cover my +1. :P
I've often played with a similar rule on all aided skill checks. Highest roll counts and lower rolls are applied as the aid another. It is up to our gracious DM.
The metagame issue is what I was getting at in my last OOC post. Until he has reason to believe otherwise Fearn's going to believe, based on his experience that he's pretty darn persuasive. I believe Mavis has a better diplomacy. And Fearn will too once he sees him at it.
>Believe has has a better diplomacy
>By like 11
I'm going to be back in 50 minutes. I'll cross my fingers the whole way home that the bluff check viluki makes ends poorly.
Mostly because he ninja'd us *after* we had already said we were making a pretty decent, cautious plan.
Aaaand home.
Now, Viluki. A favor, if you will.
Can you please explain what you were going for with the "I'm going to fake being a cleric in front of the paladin." ruse?
I'm NE, and I'm not stupid enough to do that.
All the bluff checks in the world won't get you past his sense motive, especially after he rolls his religion checks.
I have a very useful advantage, I ain't a cleric i'm a lay priest. Which means I spread the word of a god but don't receive spells.
Plus you forget something I'm of the charlatan archtype which means my ability to deceive is nigh god like. I welcome the challenge of this dwarf attempting to figure out who I really am.
I don't even know what a lay priest is.
You're character was a rogue, wasn't he?
I mean im disguised as a lay priest think of him as an adept npc class. Besides if you read my character profile you will note that I have selected cantrips and lvl 1 spells as part of my trait and rogue talent setup.
I would do that, if you had a profile. You should make it so where we can click your name and look at your stats. It makes more sense now, but we could have used that earlier.
i'll see about popping one out.
check out my profile now it should be suitably updated
check out my profile now it should be suitably updated
I will note that you can't take Extra Rogue Talent before having rogue talents, and that you can't take Major Magic more than once...
What is your bluff? CMB, CMD, Will save? What languages do you know?
GM I ask in your divine and heavenly wisdom that you adjudicate the talent rule. In the meantime I shall restrict myself to the disguise person spells and cantrips.
I may have an alternative though for the willing GM to "spell" talents. Within d&d 3.5 existed a Charalatan prestige class that instead of casting spells, could "fake them". For instance if this character wanted to cast a fireball he would basically throw a gunpowder grenade and have a "fireball".
ac from leather armor being equipted should be about 15, 13 when not wearing it. To determine hit die and saves should be 1 fort, 4 dex and 1 will.
it would seem I have been punished by the dice gods for not rolling my die alot earlier.
I can guarantee more punishment in the future if you don't somehow manage to disappear in the midst of what is obviously going to be combat in the next 20 messages.
That's the only idea I have.
You would need to sneak away in the midst combat, come back, and be talked about forever as "That one priest that almost got killed a few days ago."
if things go extremely sour I am prepared to kill kast and give you one of my recruitment leftovers who can serve as an adequate skill monkey. Provided that you take over as party face.
A problem has been brought to my attention regarding Viluki and rogue talents.
Being that Viluki is a charlatan, employing whatever means to sway people's opinions thusly conning them, I feel that while Viluki is indeed breaking the rule corresponding how many times a rogue talent can be selected.
However, I trust Viluki and to the better of my judgement, I find the ruling in -> Flavor over Power.
Viluki is allowed to keep his multiple talents in major magic (Ventriloquism), (Disguise Self), (Vanish) and (Vocal Alteration)because they fit his character well. And if a problem comes in the future regarding this decision, we'll deal with it then.
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Also, regarding the rumormonger.
This concept is new to me, and it sounds rather exciting. If I've been informed, it technically should take a week for any sort of news to be generated.
However, we're in a small back water town - I'm very quite sure some word has to travel. Afterall, the human population is dwindling, as Lucien Groy had stated.
I'll have an official ruling on that as well.
Its been quite a show so far.
Woah now, let's not be hasty. I'm the Diplomacy face, as mine's actually higher than yours at a staggering +14.
I don't know what yours is, but that's probably because your stat block isn't exactly done.
Regardless, the choice to drop in as a fake cleric in the prescence of a paladin has put you in a bind, and it's your job to get out of it in the best way possible.
It's your call. We don't actually want you dead, y'know? It's just that you kind of went ahead and slapped your dick against a beehive.
Being the face doesn't mean smashing your face into the potential encounter. Next time wait, and potentially follow suit.
As for the last post I made in gameplay the roll required is a bit hard to make...flavor wise as it could either be done as an intimidate or a dip check I leave this up our beloved GMs judgement on which is more suitable.
In a similar situation in a freer country, his speech would focus on doing good and right and he would use Torag's name freeely. He's just trying to walk the line between calming the crowd and breaking it up and not getting himself lynched, or worse imprisoned by legitimate authority.
Fearn I honestly think every evil aligned person in the crowd just now had to stifle back from asking "Is he getting paid for this? Are we being treated to some comedy right now? When did they start hiring actors for the hangings?" when you, as a paladin, considered the Lawful side of Zon-Kuthon actual Law.
Bahaha! (Guess who's evil)
More to the point.
We've been at this for atleast 9 posts. Could we get some crowd reaction? I assume they've got a pretty hefty amount of "What kind of b!*%&&** is this" faces.
Viluki. Mark my words. You need. Need. NEED. To slow you're role. This isn't even being diplomatic, you're just causing a random riot.
At the LEAST, wait on fratmancy to tell you what Lucien and his goons do.
We've been Rping in a vacuume for a bit.
Fearn's more wielding ZK's name as a bully stick to settle the crowd. Hinting at retribution exacted most painfully if they don't get in line. He's sure pleas to their better nature won't work and might get him in deep doodoo as well.
Didn't use any of ZK's teachings, just history and an assumption that LE is all about making the people at the bottom behave.
As an aside, I never got a LE vibe from the description of ZK. NE or CE seems more appropriate.
I can agree with those sentiments. It was basically you mentioning it that made it kind of funny. Paladin's usually don't use ZK favorably.
That being said, Shadrick is currently unamused because he knows a bad situation when he sees one.
I'm honestly considering having this crowd be removed from the equation, but we might need them in the upcoming riot.
At the same time, however, I'd like it if we had less reverberations to deal with.
not exactly...remember as a "lay priest" I can "pray" to Pharasma if the GM is willing we can consider using the sleight of hand skill (dex) to mask what I am actully doing.
That's a bit late, don't you think?
Also what is praying going to do in this situation if doing so doesn't give you any spells?
think carefully, praying can be done to mask the spells appearance, after all when one thinks about different spellcasting ways from different lands would be notably different. For example lets say I was role playing an elf wizard, my magic would naturally be said in elvish, while my dwarven counterpart would use dwarven get my drift?
Fearn's more wielding ZK's name as a bully stick to settle the crowd. Hinting at retribution exacted most painfully if they don't get in line. He's sure pleas to their better nature won't work and might get him in deep doodoo as well.
Didn't use any of ZK's teachings, just history and an assumption that LE is all about making the people at the bottom behave.
As an aside, I never got a LE vibe from the description of ZK. NE or CE seems more appropriate.
Zon-Kuthon's all about control. Self-control, control of others, bondage, masochism, sadism, the whole gamut. Zon-Kuthon doesn't do things without establishing firm, dominant power over the situation. Hence, lawful-- remember, he doesn't follow laws, he follows a regimented lifestyle without random chance or emotions getting in the way of what he does best. The Silent Enforcers kill people to force others under the control of the nobles. People walk in straight lines, shortest to tallest, into the gas chambers. That kind of control.
Zon-Kuthon's actually one of my favorite gods in Pathfinder because he's essentially a super-evil god whose worshippers aren't like "grr killing". And then all of the splatbooks made them into "grr killing" instead of what they were before-- insane BDSM fetishist nazis.
insane BDSM fetishist nazis.
That being said, it's still a sleight of hand check to keep the hand jive hidden, and since you posted that an hour ago, ya can't, and it's in front of god and everybody to see.
With that being said, we wouldn't be having this discussion if you'd gone through with the stereotypical "Let's all meet and learn about each other before the big bad shows up." but nooooo, someone had to go and headsmash their face into the situation.
I don't even think you're LN.
That aside the point, I think we should wait for Cy to say something in gameplay before we go any farther forward. We're drawing straws here.
Just as well, I wish Cy would post more frequently, but I understand that "Life" actually exists.
LN means you follow a set of rules, run an organization etc...
Remember while im disguised im adopting a completely different persona. I don't have a network to run so I can't do it through minions (yet). So I have to assemble my power base from scratch. This means that my disguises (at least the ones who will adopt leadership roles for the masses) must be upfront and personal.
Think of the shadow broker and the Illusive man from mass effect series and you get my idea.
Barring the fact that G-man and the Illusive man never jumped onto a set of gallows for very little reason, other than to denounce men that he'd hardly known, and that I think Vlasko has already figured you out, you're doing poorly.
This sounds LE to me.
I'm just wierded out by the character in general, as I have no idea what to make of him. One minute you're wanting to give aid, and LITERALLY you're next message, you RUN through the crowd and practically scream carpediem carpediem.
It seems botched, a bit, but it's nothing we can't fix once our characters get more acquainted.
Assuming they live, of course.
Oh my guy will live this I promise, and do remember that the Illusive man had to start from the bottem up, plus I did mention that they might have valueable information right?
Also LE is basically being cruel, malicious, regimented and focused on your goal no matter the cost. This guy isn't LE because if he was a riot would have already been started. My guy doesn't care about others so much as killing for the sake of killing etc does not appeal to him.
The weird part is that you already knew the guys name prior to a knowledge local check, and I don't remember him saying his name.
Soo....
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Zon-Kuthon's all about control. Self-control, control of others, bondage, masochism, sadism, the whole gamut. Zon-Kuthon doesn't do things without establishing firm, dominant power over the situation. Hence, lawful-- remember, he doesn't follow laws, he follows a regimented lifestyle without random chance or emotions getting in the way of what he does best. The Silent Enforcers kill people to force others under the control of the nobles. People walk in straight lines, shortest to tallest, into the gas chambers. That kind of control.
Zon-Kuthon's actually one of my favorite gods in Pathfinder because he's essentially a super-evil god whose worshippers aren't like "grr killing". And then all of the splatbooks made them into "grr killing" instead of what they were before-- insane BDSM fetishist nazis.
Interesting perspective. I agree that LE in general isn't necessarily "grr killing". And a LE government is all about control, especially enforced with a big stick. I mostly have trouble integrating the SM pain-pleasure thing with lawful evil. Bondage, et al, can symbolize control, but it seems more like thinkly veiled self-indulgence than real self-control to me. For me self control is the defining aspect of a lawfully aligned character.
I also agree ZK is an intriguing deity of operatic proportions. Beautiful sister. Giant mystery in his background. Murders Father.
I prefer Zura for the Hedonism.
But she's chaotic, so....
What name are you speaking of Duboris?
The weird part is that you already knew the guys name prior to a knowledge local check, and I don't remember him saying his name.
Soo....
The guard captain led with his name. Understandable that Mavis missed it given his eager anticipation of bloodshed.
"The leader of the group blew a sharp whistle that he kept tucked within his attire.
“Oii!!!! I SAID OII!!!!!When Lucien Groy tells ya to can it, HE MEANS IT!!!” ...
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Regarding Fearn and the whole paladin bit. Paladin is a set of mechanics in the game. Fearn is a religious scholar and a minor official in his town's government. Right now he's engaged in the age-old professioin of bounty hunter and failing. He's blessed by Torag and devout, but if you're expecting a fire and brimstone, detect evil-spamming, always lawful stupid bigot, you've got it wrong.
That's not to say he won't be lawful stupid sometime.
As far as combat goes, how would you like us to treat combat rounds and initiative?
Oh look. The guys are pissed.
Who would've thunk?
"As far as combat goes, how would you like us to treat combat rounds and initiative?"
Excellent question.
I'll elaborate.
Posting each round moves and turns on a grid is both tiring and cumbersome. So, I'm planning on the following:
Roll initiative scores for the battle, and we'll try to keep turn order in mind.
Rather than worrying about movement, imagine your place in battle. Is the enemy 20ft away? I can see a crowd before me, I'll need to clear it through, etc.
I would think the best way to do is to think of combat as theatrical - like you're in a movie. For me, I imagine the Avengers as it has several heroes working together (If you haven't seen the film, I can't imagine why, do it, its awesome).
I'll do my best to keep combat simplified without lowering the challenge.
All I can ask is for everyone to keep mindful of eachother's posts and hopefully it'll go well.
And in the case it doesn't, I'm prepared to resort to *gulp* a grid.
Everyone savvy?
I'm okay with this, As it is, I have the high initiative. 18. Yay~
OH GOD MY SIDES. BAHAHAHA. HE ACTUALLY GOT A 6!
I will have my revenge oaf, after all I'm the one the ladies will flock to...just wait and see.
You might be able to get them flock to bed, but stat wise I'm more of a man.
not after im done with my disguise kit...
Ok that's just disturbing.
As much as I'd love to combat the libido's of our characters, how about we just stick to the situation at hand?
Also, you didn't turn invisible yet, you rolled initiative... ... and lost.
So yeah. Go edit that.