Saxton looks up, the doldrums may be coming to an end
Andreas is here
still here
Good. :)
dropping out of this, just to slow guys, its a good point to do it now
all the best guys
GM spugs,
GM could you take Saxton off the player list thanks
comming back just to stop De'ohge rubbing the party blind and rewriting events into his back pack of loot. :)
I most certainly will not be rubbing anyone, nor am I robbing them.
August 16, 2012 in front of the group, De'ohge wraps the orb and puts it in his bag.
August 31 possessive reference of desire to know more of orb.
Sep 3, Saxton tells professor of orb, professor states no knowledge of magical devices
Sep 4, pulls orb out of bag to study it.
Sep 6, continues to study orb. Saxton and Andrea also study orb.
Sep 7, notes that the orb is wrapped and put away. since the orb came from his bag, implied it was returned
Sep 13, Saxton suggests the orb be left with the professor.
Sep 14, Saxtoon ooc's assumption of orb left with professor.
No further reference to the orb until this scene.
Since the professor stated he didn't know magic and showed no interest in looking at the orb while you, me, and Andreas looked at it, De'ohge ignored the new guy's suggestion and kept the potentially dangerous object where he could keep a close eye on it.
I would suggest you gather some FACTS, before making accusations!
The FACT that I am holding the MAGICAL orb, as the resident MAGICIAN does not mean I am claiming ownership of it. I believe I have made it very clear that I may be holding items, or tracking them, but that I am not considering them mine.
You appear to have missed the personal thought indicating that De'ohge was relying on Haundo to tell him what to do about the orb.
Not sure where your character is coming from to just tell a bunch of strangers, who's motives are unknown, and who have lots of weapons, and have forcibly split the party into two separate groups, that we have a potentially powerful item is... <censored>.
I would be rather surprised if the other players thought it would be totally acceptable for their characters to leave all or some of their magical gear behind on a boat that is most assuredly going to be searched, while they were led off, especially since they were told to bring their personal gear with them.
Hell, I should have written in that De'ohge would have also packed the books into his haversack if no one else wanted them, he is a book worm after all.
De'ohge AKA fnord72
In the above you did not post what the other players had said when I made a point that the prof gets the orb and not you, The GM said It was left with the Prof when we headed out to the Armory.
But IF not, then Saxton will Psychically take the ORB off De'ohge and give it to the Proffer, and if you say your PC stops him, then your line "I'm looking after things for the party" can be shown to be what is is meaningless tripe, when in fact De'ohge is now CONTROLLING the things in his posetion and so so doing laying claim to them by default.
Despots of the world have pulled that little gag. "looking after it for you but you can not have it" ruse.
Sorry De'ohge you can not in this case, have you cake and eat it.
So it with the Prof or your laying clame to it, simple.
now get out of that with out more word play on Ill look after it (own it) for the group cus I know best??
Got ya!
Now about you,
Really I no longer care about the Orb, if the GM (who seems to have RL things taking up his time) and other players say you got it back off the Prof counter to Saxton protests, that your PC had it the WHOLE trip that Prof did not lay claim to it so he could study it and then tell the City's research body, where he was headed, (he knows the city defenders by name FGS, its us they do not trust) that the rest of the party is happy you taking hold of it for your own PCs use. (yadder yadder for the group, but its in YOUR Pcs back pack, so you control it) The so be you, you get your way and the orb. Its no biggy really but Saxton and I feel the Prof will tell the city you have that artifact. Sorry but its key to his work.
No what matters here is the shocking why the moment I walk away you make yet another grab for the orb. You see now I worry because you have pulled this kind of stuff before, As Q'q in a game we where both in, you where asked to leave the game by others because of this kind of thing. Then when when told by them to go, you kind of flamed the game by acting like they had not said any thing. Point is this, you just seem to over ride others in the way you play. Its a kind of power gaming that others, me in this game and other players in the other, just do not like dealing with. It sucks the fun out of a game, when a player seeking to just take and control all the time like this. The other game the GM slung you out but in this one I'm walking.
Not just becouse of you, but the gloves thing I let slide and now this, its done it for me sorry. I suggestion is go find a war game, you seem more like a wargamer/Power gamer to me than a roll player. As your competing all the time, this and the other game showed me that about you. I mean no disrespect to you, but I think this type of game play dos not work with mine and other it seems, so Im out.
Guys, have a good game.
fnord72 Have a good life and good bye.
I was kind enough to provide date references to defend my actions. Please provide the reference where the GM forced De'ohge to follow Saxton's suggestion.
I respectfully remind you that the professor declined to study the orb when it was first presented to him. Not sure where you are getting that he became interested in studying it after stating he was not learned in magical items.
I prefer not to play a pvp game. Should Saxton attempt to psychically force an action you don't like (but haven't provided a reason why Saxton would not like it), I'd like to see you try. You don't have teleport object, or another similar psionic ability that could do that without saves on my part.
You are now leaving this game, I don't see your final post noting the group loot YOU were holding as noted on Nov 13, 2012.
For the good of the GROUP, I am posting those items here. Are we to assume that you are choosing not to remember this doesn't belong to Saxton?
Bag of Holding II
1 manual on ship operation-->These give you a +2 on any checks related to piloting a ship. It takes one hour to look over the book, and the bonus stays in place for 8 hours. After that you must read the book again.
Wooden box (held 4 potions of lesser restoration now split)
Tower Shield magical +1
10 light crossbows
4 heavy crossbows
299 bolts
4 MW strength +2 composite longbows.
6 MW strength +1 composite longbows.
123 arrows.
100 food rations
Notes and papers - form Command center.
Yeah and if PVP ensues be ready because Haundo will split you two apart as right now further division isn't a good idea for the group.
Other then that though De'ohge has the right of it, going off his references and re-reading posts its true what he says. So lets cool our jets on this item and the Professor has declined quite a bit when it came to tasks such as that.
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Well After that I felt I best clear some things up, One
where was the Orb when we went to the Army
Post here stating where it was by the GM as Saxton said "left with them Prof" Sep 15 HERE
GM Watcher Uatu
"Saxton I misread that request the first time. You would have gotten the potion, and the orb was left behind."
Facts De'ohge facts, 15th after your 14th post hard luck Saxton pushed this hard as he now deeply mistrusts your PC and feels he is only with them to get away and get as much magic loot as he could lay hes grubby dirty greedy little hands on wile using the lie, "I'm only looking after what ever I take for the party".
I told you this about Saxton when your PC calmed the gloves with no more than hes own says so and a "if you don't like the fact I now own this hard luck".
So now what you going to do, say left you Ruchsack with the Prof or tuck the Orb back when saxton was not around, or say NO NO I missed that He would NEVER his things (sorry the party's) out of his hands.
Point is Saxton will have played bloody hell up if you has tryed to that the orb on the raid OR taken it back unto yourself after, Saxton would have told the the Prof NOT to let you take ownership of its again, as you can not be trusted with it your a greedy little mage at for himself what he can get is little mits on. Its fun that your now trying to hid it wile Saxton and the Prof would tell the City guys
"HAY WE FOUND THIS ORB THAT COULD BE CONTROLLING THE UNDEAD, YOU HAVE A ANY ONE IN THIS 'CITY' WHO CAN STUDY IT AND HOPEFULLY FIND US AWAY TO COUNTER IS POWERS, AND SO HELP STOP THE END OF THE WORLD, OUR GREEDY LITTLE MAGE CHUM HERE HAS IT"
Now this is the fun part, you see I think your a "Competing player" that's a RPG player who see the RPG as a game where he has to beat not just the game but the other players, this is done in meany ways, one is the "loot harder" now they can be open about this or they can seek to justify it with a little lie. The lie in this case being "O I'm not holding onto things for me, O no, no. no,
Now what is more interesting and proves my point about you as a player is this.
You went strait to PvP as I said a "Competing player", but that's not what I was doing at all, Saxton he needs no powers or to harm you in any why, he only needed to show what you just showed, That that your PCs case "Possession is nine-tenths of the law" and that what your PC is really doing wile "Holding things for the party is realty, own and control the items" you will deside there fate and no other,
Its why you some how felt you needed to list the Group Items that Saxton was holding for the party, That is a most interesting onsight into your mind set.
Heres a heads you, here like other games, when A PC levers all there party and in most cases game got object and items stay with the remaining Players. This is almost always the case, there is not need fro me to list them as it taken that, that will happen. And yet in your mind a player would go and TAKE items with here departing PC??
Again this points me to a "Competing player" mentality you hold and not a healthy thing at all to have.
So now we have cleared up where the Orb was, and that your PC will be court in a lie by Mind if you act as stated, you can only do 2 thing,
Try and keep pushing the lie, OR just say, well Saxtons gone now so I can still "For the party guys" take ownership of the orb.
:)
SO
1: It WAS left with the PROF
2: Saxton would tell the PROF NOT to give it you back as you can not be trusted.
3: Saxton would Check you had not been trying to had Nicked it back.
4: OR SAID ITS MINE ( Sorry The PARTYS) Now give it ME back.
5: Then IF you and got it he would have move to give it back to the Prof and any one but not YOU,
6: If you then stopped him from doing this he would say "Your a lier and your laying claim to the ORB for yourself mage, You can not be trusted.
7: Once in the City Saxton and I Think the PROF would OF couse tell them of this new information and ask the it be studded with what ever leaning they have.
Whats sad thing is I know you will think this some kind of competition you need to win, Like I said a your a "Competing player" not a roll player, me, you can have the orb and all the other things you will err "look after for the party" good luck with that, Im a roll player and Saxton as my PC just dos not trust your PC, he thinks if full of it, and wants ownership and control magics, and so far your PC has done nothing to convince mine otherwise, out of game player to player I am even more convinced your aim to power-game just like your other PC Q.q did.
This is why I left, you sucked the fun out of it for me, luckily the other game is still going and that is a load of fun.
TTFN.
no worries Haundo, I have no intentions of getting into any pvp, detest it actually.
And you and any of the other players would hopefully have recognized the difference between record keeping and hoarding.
On this note, I have enjoyed this game, and I have enjoyed playing with ALL of the players here. And, as noted above, I would like to continue playing the game.
If any of the other players, or the GM, believes that I am trying to rob the group, hoard the gold, etc.
Please speak up now and let's figure out someone else to keep track of group loot, or we forgo group loot altogether and decide to split everything at the time of acquisition.
All I can say is
if we find something that Klor has a fancy for then he will say so.
being the only non-spellcaster here he has to rely on what the others tell him is magical unless its pretty obvious.
and as long as the healing is there when he needs it he's good.
no worries Haundo, I have no intentions of getting into any pvp, detest it actually.
And you and any of the other players would hopefully have recognized the difference between record keeping and hoarding.
On this note, I have enjoyed this game, and I have enjoyed playing with ALL of the players here. And, as noted above, I would like to continue playing the game.
If any of the other players, or the GM, believes that I am trying to rob the group, hoard the gold, etc.
Please speak up now and let's figure out someone else to keep track of group loot, or we forgo group loot altogether and decide to split everything at the time of acquisition.
De'ohge, thank you, that's a very good post and seems a genuine acceptance of contrition on your part.
PvP was never on the cards and happy to hear you think the same way.
Thank you for saying you enjoyed playing with my PC and all the others, this is true of me as well, I like your PC, nut for this one small point of game items which looks to have been resolved, was the only thing I had a problem with.
Your acceptance that this was a problem and your offer agreement to change is what would put the fun back in the game for me. That offer to now hear other players and except there actions in game with items gives me hope and moves me back to wanting to be in this game once more.
I feel sorry we had to have a protracted debate to get to this point, but I could see no other way.
More than any thing I would miss the Axa chapping dwarf Klor Kragsson and Haundo amazing posts (a story all on there own, wish I was as good a writer) as well as Uchendu Kybwa'ka, who seems to have a luck all of his own and is great fun to see in action, Andreas Merona the teller of stall tails and fighter of skill. I feel the GM here as a great world story, I do like it. So If what you say is true and you will let things play out as posted then all well and good and we are back to 6 players to keep this going, shame no GM post for a wile, lets hope he has time to carry this on as well.
So saying all that, I have to offer something now you have and Ill go with what you said about the Orb, its only fair that I do that, All I wanted was that we as a group uses show we are not to be sidelined by the powers that be in this city, not be added to the faceless ranks on the walls, and that we not aid them, but they aid us.
Lets gave it we have a ship, the orb and turned the tide on a citys defenses. We have more than capable battle commander in Haundo, Your own PC who has skills and gifts that few have in this world now. Klor The brave, (2 days of party's and tales will get you a name) Andreas Merona singing of out deeds, Uchendu Kybwa'ka kicking but and taking names, Saxton the Shinny or not much of a name but still.
:)
So lets get on with the show.
Has this game died?
I don't know. It may just have...
=/
rofl, saxton