Alynthar42: Actually the GM is pretty accurate. you can indeed make one good char and try to submit to a lot of games, but your chances are really low... if your were a GM, which player would you choose, one that made a fresh and perfect fit for the campaign or a generic one? My choice is clear. Since I started to PBP, I've been doing this, each recruitment a new char and to the moment been accepted in 6/7 games.See, that's a major problem for me. As a hopeful professional writer, creating a character is an incredibly involved process for me. It usually takes a minimum of three days, during which I not only create a character, but develop a personal and emotional attachment to that character. That's why I submit the same character to several games- I now have a character which is, in my mind, perfect, and I am extremely eager to play him. To create a unique character for every game would be impossible. Even if I could do it, it would cheapen the whole system, as it would deprive me of the emotional connection to the character. I don't mind editing the character to fit the DM's campaign- in fact, I create characters with the need to do so in mind. Were I to truly go all out and create a full character without the flexibility which I depend on to tailor the character to different campaigns, it would likely take a week or more to create each one. My system is a happy medium which allows me to develop the character to a semi-full extent, while still being able to shift his personality and history to match the needs and desires of the DM.
Ok, here are my unsolicited thoughts...
Three days is nothing. My games last years (2-3) so three days is... nothing.
I (and most decent GMs) want you to have a deep emotional attachment to your PC. This is a sure way to get the most out of roleplaying and make sure that you are an involved participant (you care about this PC because you spent a week 'making him').
What in your mind is a 'perfect character' reads to me like a half-cooked idea or concept. It really is the start of a concept that could be tailored to just about any campaign. And maybe that was what you were going for.
However, to me this PC is not ready to be selected and, if you are waiting to be selected to tailor the PC, I think you have the process backwards.
I dare say that any GM that picks your PC as you presented him will not have a very long game and will probably fold within a few weeks.
GMs that have games with lasting power put 'time and effort' into the games and expect the players to do the same.
Take the above as my personal opinions and maybe your experience is different but talk to other dedicated GMs and see what they have to say.
Game on!
I see your point about the time comparison. My point is more that, if I plan to submit to a dozen games, that's a full month to create characters. As for his half-cookedness, there's a lot more information in my notes and my mind. What exactly are you thinking of? It seems like most people don't write much more for the character's personality and background than I have, so I don't understand that.
Also, I've been forgetting to mention something. Part of the reason I do this the way I do it is because I create characters that I'm extremely excited to play. Which campaign I play him in is largely inconsequential, to be perfectly honest. Some campaigns interest me more than others, of course, especially anything homebrewed, but the real thing I'm after is the character. The reason I submit to so many games is that the odds of getting into any game at all are so low, due to the fierce competition. That's why I mentioned submitting to a dozen games. I have no intentions of *playing* all of those games. I would be ecstatic to get into any at all.
I've been working on a character for a while now, just wanted to make my interest known before closing time. Should be finished later today.
I see your point about the time comparison. My point is more that, if I plan to submit to a dozen games, that's a full month to create characters. As for his half-cookedness, there's a lot more information in my notes and my mind. What exactly are you thinking of? It seems like most people don't write much more for the character's personality and background than I have, so I don't understand that.
Well, we can only evaluate your PC based on what you present and not on what's 'in your notes and your mind'.
With regards to a character being half-cooked or not, compare your PC with any of the others that have been deemed complete (fluff wise) in this thread and you should see the difference.
The players of the PCs that are still being considered here have taken the time to research the 'area' and the proposed themes of the campaign and tied their PCs very specifically to this. Does this take time and effort? You bet it does. Does it guarantee an accepted PC? Nope, you just can't run an effective game with too many PCs so the competition is 'fierce'.
With regards to being 'excited to play your PC'; that's par for the course. I bet all the players that have put time and effort into their PCs are also 'very excited' so that won't be a differentiation.
Anyhow, I think I started to repeat myself so it may be best if I stop.
Good luck and happy gaming.
I've been working on a character for a while now, just wanted to make my interest known before closing time. Should be finished later today.
Great, I look forward to seeing what you put together.
Game on!
Melanthius is pretty much done. I've left the racial section of his Statblock blank, as you mentioned that it'll be something we figure out if I'm chosen. I'll get a start on my second application tomorrow, it should be complete well before the cutoff.
Melanthius is pretty much done. I've left the racial section of his Statblock blank, as you mentioned that it'll be something we figure out if I'm chosen. I'll get a start on my second application tomorrow, it should be complete well before the cutoff.
I don't see any issues after a cursory review so consider his crunch done as well.
We'll figure out his racial traits later.
Where's the 'seeker' trait from?
I also look forward to seeing what else you put together.
Game on!
Awesome! I found it on the prd, It's a social trait giving a bonus to perception and making it a class skill
The book Seeker is from is Ultimate Campaign. :)
So her fluff is ready for some evaluation, but here is Kieyanna. Tiefling Oracle. I'm still working on her sheet, feats/abilities are placeholders at the moment, and still have to choose spells/equipment.
Let me know if there are any concerns, and of course I'm willing to work with any adjustments. If the Soul Seer alternate racial trait is too much, I'm willing to adjust her sheet and backstory accordingly.
Awesome! I found it on the prd, It's a social trait giving a bonus to perception and making it a class skill
I like to check things on d20pfsrd.com and it didn't find it yesterday but I see it now, no problem.
Thanks
So her fluff is ready for some evaluation, but here is Kieyanna. Tiefling Oracle. I'm still working on her sheet, feats/abilities are placeholders at the moment, and still have to choose spells/equipment.
Let me know if there are any concerns, and of course I'm willing to work with any adjustments. If the Soul Seer alternate racial trait is too much, I'm willing to adjust her sheet and backstory accordingly.
Nicely done, consider this PC finished (fluff and crunch). As I explained above, we'll deal with 'strange races' if and when they get selected to play the game.
Questions?
Game on!
Looking back through my backstory I realized that I had copy pasted my first draft. It highlights the use of claws, but since I'd decided against an Eldritch Heritage, I reworked it to highlight her Oracle abilities.
And on those occasions that my life was in danger, another skill brought itself to my attention. My fingernails had always been a bit sharp, pointed even though no one seemed to notice unless i brought it up. They served me well in those times, able to grow them into fierce weapons at will.
And on those occasions that my life was in danger, other skills brought themselves to my attention. I could harden my skin to withstand most any attack, cause my enemy to combust in searing, screaming flames.
And there were other additions. I'll go ahead and fix that. Sorry for the mistake.
Looking back through my backstory I realized that I had copy pasted my first draft. It highlights the use of claws, but since I'd decided against an Eldritch Heritage, I reworked it to highlight her Oracle abilities.
And on those occasions that my life was in danger, another skill brought itself to my attention. My fingernails had always been a bit sharp, pointed even though no one seemed to notice unless i brought it up. They served me well in those times, able to grow them into fierce weapons at will.And on those occasions that my life was in danger, other skills brought themselves to my attention. I could harden my skin to withstand most any attack, cause my enemy to combust in searing, screaming flames.And there were other additions. I'll go ahead and fix that. Sorry for the mistake.
No problem, I thought the claws were just fluff. Ok, let me know when I can take another look.
Game on!
@Fabian Melanthius here with submission #2
My idea for a tanglebriar elven sorcerer somehow evolved into this character; Roan Greyfell, bastard scion of a disgraced noble line of Ozemic knights. The alias has a rough draft of backstory, and appearance and personality but there's still 24 hours or so to flesh him out isn't there?
In terms of crunch, I haven't nailed down exactly where he fits. I was hoping for another frontline heavy hitter with reasonable skill selection; I've never played a slayer before and they're kind of intriguing so he may well end up one of those. If you read his story I think the class fits quite nicely too. Anyway, feel free to let me know if there are any glaring changes which need to be made, I'm pretty happy with his fluff as it stands (it may just need a few grammatical tweaks and a polish, it's been a long day at work)
Thanks for giving me a shot at a second character; I feel Roan will integrate with the group a lot more easily than Melanthius (and won't have to explain his heritage to NPC's every five minutes)
@Fabian Melanthius here with submission #2
My idea for a tanglebriar elven sorcerer somehow evolved into this character; Roan Greyfell, bastard scion of a disgraced noble line of Ozemic knights. The alias has a rough draft of backstory, and appearance and personality but there's still 24 hours or so to flesh him out isn't there?
In terms of crunch, I haven't nailed down exactly where he fits. I was hoping for another frontline heavy hitter with reasonable skill selection; I've never played a slayer before and they're kind of intriguing so he may well end up one of those. If you read his story I think the class fits quite nicely too. Anyway, feel free to let me know if there are any glaring changes which need to be made, I'm pretty happy with his fluff as it stands (it may just need a few grammatical tweaks and a polish, it's been a long day at work)
Thanks for giving me a shot at a second character; I feel Roan will integrate with the group a lot more easily than Melanthius (and won't have to explain his heritage to NPC's every five minutes)
I like him as well. Do you have a preference on which PC to select if you had a choice?
Yes, there's still time (about 40 hours) to tweak it, however you will need to determine his crunch so I can see how he fits in with other PCs.
I can see myself bringing back his elven father and having a 'I am your father' moment. :)
Guys, this is the time I dread; I got too many good characters for two spots.
I am big on tailoring the campaign to my players. For example, if an adventure calls for rescuing someone, you can bet your ass that you'll be rescuing someone you know (the closer the better).
With that in mind and to help me decide, would you be able to give me two or three NPCs that your PC 'may' interact during his adventures? Don't give me childhood friends that are thousands of miles away but NPC whom you could very encounter while in the area. And I realize that some of you have already done so, whether you were aware of it or not.
And I don't need essays either, just a couple of sentences on a couple of NPCs. I can't promise I'll use all of them but I'll try.
And again, this is if you have the time and desire. The applications that have been deemed complete will still be complete even if no additional NPCs are provided.
Questions?
Game on!
I feel your pain; I hate having to reject awesome submissions.
My sister Anni's obviously a good candidate for NPC involvement, since she's my counterpart in Nerosyan, and another family/clan member arriving from Gudrun wouldn't be too out there. I can noodle on a few names and connections if you like and get back to you in a little while.
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Wow, adding NPC flavor is a neat idea to make your final decision. I've updated Fillion's background with his Fillion's former instructor (and secret romantic interest) as well as his brother...who is betrothed to said romantic interest. Just did a couple of sentences to create the ideas, but give room for GMing around malleable characters.
I feel your pain; I hate having to reject awesome submissions.
Yeah, it would be great if you ask for 'x' PCs and you get 'x' excellent submissions but it usually doesn't work that way. :(
My sister Anni's obviously a good candidate for NPC involvement, since she's my counterpart in Nerosyan, and another family/clan member arriving from Gudrun wouldn't be too out there. I can noodle on a few names and connections if you like and get back to you in a little while.
Yes, that would be fine. Thanks.
Wow, adding NPC flavor is a neat idea to make your final decision. I've updated Fillion's background with his Fillion's former instructor (and secret romantic interest) as well as his brother...who is betrothed to said romantic interest. Just did a couple of sentences to create the ideas, but give room for GMing around malleable characters.
That works, thank you.
Game on!
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It is kind of difficult for Kazmuk, since he just arrived in Nerosyan. I'll use your exemple of 'rescue' to set some NPCs.
1 - Firstly he would go anywhere to help warchief Khraigorr Half-Face, since he is in debt with him for saving his life (even though it is unlikely, since Khraigorr is high level). He would do the same to any member of the barbarian raid party that rescued him.
2 - Kzamuk thinks all his kin died in the fight against the demons, but someone could have scaped. (Not counting the other members of his clan in Highhelm)
3 - He still hopes to find the Sky Citadel of Jormundur, since he would be able to join his clan again. Anyone that could have a lead of its whereabouts, would make an appealing NPC.
It is kind of difficult for Kazmuk, since he just arrived in Nerosyan. I'll use your exemple of 'rescue' to set some NPCs.
1 - Firstly he would go anywhere to help warchief Khraigorr Half-Face, since he is in debt with him for saving his life (even though it is unlikely, since Khraigorr is high level). He would do the same to any member of the barbarian raid party that rescued him.
2 - Kzamuk thinks all his kin died in the fight against the demons, but someone could have scaped. (Not counting the other members of his clan in Highhelm)
3 - He still hopes to find the Sky Citadel of Jormundur, since he would be able to join his clan again. Anyone that could have a lead of its whereabouts, would make an appealing NPC.
That works, thank you.
Deadline is about looming...
Is anyone else planning on submitting a PC?
If so, please let me know by the end of today.
Questions?
Game on!
Having an "I am your father" moment would be awesome to role-play haha!
I think I'll submit Roan as my first preference, he has a driving motivation to be in the wound and I feel he would be much a more fluid character.
In terms of NPCS, there is the aforementioned missing father for one.
Also, I left his brother Durin's fate ambiguous in case that is something you'd like to play on.
I imagine Roan may even be be wanted by his adoptive father Pallos, who has probably gone a little crazy due to the loss of his son / infidelity of his wife. He could very well use this opportunity to destroy Roan, as he blames him for a lot of the familial shortcomings. So that could leave him open to assassins or bounty hunters from all over the place.
Having an "I am your father" moment would be awesome to role-play haha!
I think I'll submit Roan as my first preference, he has a driving motivation to be in the wound and I feel he would be much a more fluid character.
In terms of NPCS, there is the aforementioned missing father for one.
Also, I left his brother Durin's fate ambiguous in case that is something you'd like to play on.
I imagine Roan may even be be wanted by his adoptive father Pallos, who has probably gone a little crazy due to the loss of his son / infidelity of his wife. He could very well use this opportunity to destroy Roan, as he blames him for a lot of the familial shortcomings. So that could leave him open to assassins or bounty hunters from all over the place.
These NPCs work as well so I'm good, thanks.
Please get your crunch done before tomorrow.
Questions?
Game on!
No problem; I finish work in five hours so I'll get started as soon as I get home!
I've updated Kaede's background a bit, to include a clan name (Makan) and some family members. As mentioned before, her twin sister, Anni, works in Nerosyan with the crusaders' court. The rest of her family lives in Gundrun with the Makan clan, who make their living primarily by raising horses. Her mother Vara is one of the spiritual leaders in Gundrun, as well as using her connection to the spirits to aid in raising the herds. Her father Olan and brother Rand work with the herds and run a trade route between Gundrun and Nerosyan for the necessities the Makans can't get through foraging.
All I need to do is purchase equipment and Roan is finished. He should be well and truly complete by the deadline, but if you take a look at his Statblock in the alias you'll get a rough idea how he should play out. He's got a reasonable skill selection, and should fill the role of tracker / hard hitting frontline combatant out nicely.
He's got a reasonable skill selection, and should fill the role of tracker / hard hitting frontline combatant out nicely.
Yes, but what position can he play in Sevens? We really need a good Fly-half!
Working on the npcs now, I'd been gone from home since yesterday afternoon so I hadn't seen the new posts. Also just wanted to clarify, there were no other additions to my back story. Only the one change, which is up.
Submitting Kordica Carraway, cleric of Gorum.
@Kaede: thank you, that will work nicely.
@Roan: I didn't see any red flags so I think you're fine. I would change your slayer talent since I provide all PCs with an 'idea' of how healthy everyone is. See the OOC part of turn recap to see what I'm talking about.
@Arrathion: No problem, I look forward to what you present.
BTW, Sabola is our resident orphaned half-orc rogue. And yes, although I like my games gritty, there's always room for humor, both IC and OOC.
Questions?
Game on!
BTW, Sabola is our resident orphaned half-orc rogue. And yes, although I like my games gritty, there's always room for humor, both IC and OOC.
Humor? Have you seen the side from Star Keep this year? They call themselves The Sellen Seven. They're using a half ogre and a minotaur as their props, which I thought was illegal, but apparently not, if they are "church approved" as having been properly reformed. At the very least, the minotaur should be required to strap pillows around his horns!
NPC options are now spoilered on her profile.
Submitting Kordica Carraway, cleric of Gorum.
Thank you for the submittal.
What exactly is his class? You are aware that the starting level is 4th because a whole lot of different things on the alias.
NPC options are now spoilered on her profile.
That works fine, thank you.
Fighter 1, Cleric 3. His profile has been updated.
Ok, I think I've heard from all those that were intending to submit. If I missed anyone, I'm sorry, but I did ask you to let me know yesterday if you were planning on submitting.
I know this sounds cliche, but I honestly would have selected any of the 'completed' applications. I thank you all for the work you put in those PCs, and I hope you enjoyed making them as much as I enjoyed reading about them. You'll hear from should I need anyone else for the campaign.
Alas, I can only accept two more players...
I'd like to have Kaede of Sarkoris and Roan Greyfell join us in our campaign.
Selected players, please say hi in the discussion thread. I'll post a turn recap shortly so you can start roleplaying right away.
Thanks again and happy gaming,
Fabian
Aww, well I did enjoy creating the character. Thanks GM for your consideration and good luck to those chosen.
I misunderstood; I thought you were asking for new people to notify you, not requesting confirmation. Happy gaming!