Just a reminder, everyone in this round can vote to continue or end the age.
Aw no! But I just got here! Voting no because I'm selfish.
Haha, don't worry, we didn't end the last age for quite a while, but I still allow the option to move on just in case.
Miolla, I couldn't find the Doppelganger stats as a race on the SRD. Would you mind sending me a link to somewhere I could find them?
Also, Yhev, would you mind putting your current point total in your status bar like the others, just to make things a little easier for me.
because I mis-remembered their name which should be Changelings
My Mistake
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/uncommonRaces/changeli ngs.html
Ah, that would explain it. And just a reminder, everyone but Yhev has yet to vote on whether or not to move on to the next age.
Moranus would like to keep the age going
Geiyara would like to go back to the previous age... but will keep to this one
Haha, sorry, but you did decide the vote, so we'll be sticking to this age. I'll put together a post tonight.
Going to try and gather all the information on Aurus' stuff and put it in his alias. Starting to get to much to remember. Will post a copy here as well when I have it. Who would have thought a thief created so much stuff. xP
I still have to make 2 races come to think of it.
By the end of next week
Planning on fixing up the Yeven race both fluffwise and stat-wise. Keeping the extra arms and +1 dodge bonus, gonna change stats from +2 Dex/wis to +2 Dex/Int and fluff it out a bit.
You said Geiyara twice in the point part of your post Dragonflyer
Right you are, thanks for pointing that out so I could fix it in the next post, rather than later on down in the thread.
Sorry everyone was a bit ill for a while
Dear God I thought you were dead!
Aurus, I would like to create a Yaveni order of warriors and scholars tasked with protecting the Taria Tus. Would this be something you'd see as beneficial? The warriors would protect the moving bank while the scholars would serve as chroniclers, keeping track of transactions and various information.
I don't want to thrust my concept upon yours, so I thought I'd ask
Edit:
GM, what are your overall ideas for this game world? I got the feeling from a comment during recruitment that this obviously won't be a high tech game. Is there a particular tone you're hoping for? I haven't really seen you give someone a flat out no. I'm not trying to push your limits, I'm just curious what your view of the game world is.
@Yhev
I already created the order your thinking of last turn. Also that order does not restrict it's recruits so Yaveni can join. Merca are just the founder race and likely the most numerous. I have just not gotten around to giving a detailed description of them. As well as the other order and a few other things for that matter. Time is a premium lately. So if you want Yaveni members feel free have some. Save your points or use command order to have your members do something as part of the order. If they are scholar types have them make a knowledge vault with in the first bank and task them with gaining a copy of all knowledge and preserving it with in along with the more material wealth. just a thought. ;)
@Na-Rizzer
Long time no see.
I didn't have a set idea coming into this game of what I wanted it to be, so I could adapt it to whatever you come up with. That's why I try not to say no, because this is really your game as much as mine. If you have anything that you'd love to see come up when we play the game itself, feel free to let me know and I'll make a note of it and try to incorporate it at some point.
Yep been ill, nice to see you all again
Yep the underworld is just a shadow plane of this one, where the dead go until they move on to what ever god they have has for them, just a kind of waiting room etc. It has no effect on reality other than being a place known after death, if anyone is brought back from the dead its where they wait etc,
I based it on the Greek Underworld idea of the afterlife over the Judeo-Christian one.
The Greek underworld, in mythology, was a place where souls went after death and was the Greek idea of afterlife. At the moment of death the soul was separated from the corpse, taking on the shape of the former person, and was transported to the entrance of Hades. Hades itself was described as being either at the outer bounds of the ocean or beneath the depths or ends of the earth. It was considered the dark counterpart to the brightness of Mount Olympus, and was the kingdom of the dead that corresponded to the kingdom of the gods. Hades was a realm invisible to the living and it was made solely for the dead.
The Caverns of Punishment
The Caverns of Punishment is a place for those who had created havoc on the world and committed crimes specifically against the gods. Na-Rizzer herself makes an individual's punishment of eternal suffering based on their specific crime.
The Realm of shades
The realm of shades, a place for ordinary or indifferent souls who did not commit any significant crimes, but who also have not achieve any greatness or recognition that would warrant them being admitted to the Elysian Fields. It is where mortals who do not belong anywhere else in the Underworld were sent. Here is a cold grey copy of life where the dead act out a shallow copy of the life they lived.
The Vale of Mourning
The Vale of Mourning is where those who were consumed by unhappy love dwell. Sadness and loss fill there afterlives. Unhappy Suicides go to the Vale of Mourning.
The vales of Bliss
The vales of Bliss, A place where the followers of the gods get there rewards in the afterlife. Normal people who lived righteous and virtuous lives gain entrance when they have proved there worth sufficiently through philosophy, Theology, magic or Science.
The Island of Elysium
Elysium was a place for the especially distinguished. It was ruled over by Na-Rizzer herself, and the souls that dwelled there have an easy afterlife and have no labors. Usually, those who have proximity to the gods were granted admission and those who are especially righteous or had ethical merit. Heroes are transported here after their deaths.
It is here Na-Rizzer has her Palace of bones, in which is the is the.
The Hall of Judgement
Where Na-Rizzer and other gods Judge the dead before calming them, the hall has a vast number of doors, each leading the next place for the dead.
Come on guys, only one person has posted this round!
Geiyara, would you like to see the centaurs as playable races? If so, then we'd likely need to tone down their stat block from the SRD. If not, then they're fine as they are.
Up to you DM, I'm just putting in nature creatures to flavor the world.
I'll likely keep them as just an npc race then.
Almost forgot about this. Moranus wants the age to continue
as dos the death god
And a vote to continue the age from Lord Yhev.
Working on a write-up for the Yav.
In regards to boh the city of Ns'Gau and the Aecalx university, I am hoping to have both be multicultural and open to other races. Yaven are very open with other races, and do not hold any hostilities against living creatures. They seek to enrich life for those who walk the proper path, not just their own.
As there is a god of evil now I have changed Na-Rizzer to NT, I think thats more fitting for how I am seeing her now. She and her sister Geiyara Stand as life and death, Ok Geiyara "The Tree of Life" has gone to the good but I think its ok if Na-Rizzer shifts from NE to TN as she spends time with the dead souls of the living things you have made. She will learn about life and all that's in it. Also her Children the [NPC] Dragons will talk, some as fellow gods, I think that would also change her outlook. I think being cruel would leave her, and she would become more Standoff-ish to feelings, colder, harder but not cruel.
Yav (Yaven, Yaveni) (Yav:Yaven:Yaveni::Elf::Elves:Elven)
Physical Description: Though an agile race, Yaven stand at an average of 6feet tall, though it is not unusual to see some over 7 feet tall and others well under 5'6". Their skin color ranges from rich olive to a nearly pitch black obsidian. Were it not for their extra set of appendages and third eye, Yaven would often be mistaken for half elves. Eyes can vary and often come in many different colors much like gnomes, yet their third eye will always be a contrasting color.
Society: Yaven base their societies around three culturally important stages: "The Calling", "The Great Wander" and "The Tithe". During the decades long Calling, Yaven learn important skills, train physically and mentally and do what they must to be called to wander in a massive ceremony.
The Great Wander is a lengthy period of time, often lasting one or two decades, where those deemed fit explore the world around them, adventuring for the sake of experience and knowledge. Some become traveling merchants or craftsmen, while others pick up blade and put their training to the test. Upon their return, the wanderers make way for the next generation, and spend much of their lives on The Tithe.
The Tithe is a period of devotion, when the great wanderer has returned and now must recount his or her adventures. Many go on to teach, while others spend the rest of their days writing about their past adventures. A few never return, instead opting to spend their lives as career adventurers, often seen scribing on their downtime.
Interactions with other races:
Yaven believe in enrichment for all those who "walk along the right path", or live their lives naturally, free from the taint of undeath. They clearly harbor ill will towards the undead and those who seek undeath.
Given their strange appearance, Yaven and Hawkmen historically have been known to get along, often adventuring together.
Sparklings are a curiosity to most Yaven, though they gladly welcome them amongst their travelers.
They see the Merca as connivers and opportunists, but give them their due praise for being such great engineers.
They are known to share their advancements with those who've showed them kindness, believing that an enriched world is a better world for all.
General Attitude: As scholars, Yaven believe that knowledge is a right for all sentient life and as such spend their lives cataloging as much knowledge for all the people as possible. Though they are curious by nature, they are not stupid enough to put themselves in danger. All Yaven are born with an extra sensory, physical precognition known as "Yhev's Favor". When explained to others, it is described as an uncomfortable urge to move often when physical harm would be done to them. Because of Yhev's Favor, they sometimes come off as risk takers, not as calculated as they actually are.
Lore: When Yhev created the first Yav, it was said that he took bits of stardust and shaped them in his image. He gave them four arms, like his own, and a third eye, as a sign that they are his. He tied the form together with bits of their own fate line so that they'd always have a sense of what came next. He created a partner, and did the same. To the first yav he said "this is your equal, made of the same stardust, tied together by their own fate. Seek knowledge, defend the weak, and tithe unto me". The two were placed on the highest mountain peak and made their way down, seemingly from out of the stars. Soon more followed in their footsteps and they wandered like the last.
Tired but can't sleep so I drafted that up. Let me know what you think.
Decided to stray away from the obviously alien look of the Kasatha (grey skin, odd shaped everything) and went for something a little closer to a half elf, elf look.
Work and Easter holiday has been beating me down but will have something up later today so I won't hold up things. ;)
@Na-Rizzer
Not so much of an attempt to turn her, but to see where her loyalties lie. Being the Goddess of death, Yhev would expect Na-Rizzer to hate those who raise the dead just as much as he does. Take it more as Yhev making sure she's still on his general side. After all, I see the two co-dependent, no matter how antagonistic they may get towards one another
@Yhev
I don't think she would be antagonistic as the god of fate she would see him as one of the greater and necicery gods like her. Ones with a role to play. She is not so keen on whimsical gods that seem to act like more child life then grown up. In this way now she may come over stern and a little dower.
As Yhev is the one who points out when a life is to end and move to the underworld. She would see him as very much needed. he has a role like her and her sister.
She sees her Role to bring death so that room can be made for her sisters work. Also to take care of souls after dead and place they where they should be.
I am player her as a being that has changed as she has done her allocated role you see, over time its had an effect.
She has seen so much of the lives of mortals that she holds her old views as no longer of use.
The true is that belief is not a one way thing, its a means to a gods power but the belief also changes that god. In the 1st age gods stood alone but in this age, the power of faith adds and alters in my view.
Its the price I think that gods pay, I am playing it that Na-Rizzer is seen as a "necessary evil" not "A being of Evil" for the sake of it.
As she has been away so long mortals placed her as a think with out compaction or hate just the God who moves your soul along and protects the land of the living from the dead, by keeping them with her.
When she came back this view affected her into that.
And yep, she still dislikes undead makers, as they brake the barrier that she protects between the dead and the living.
two days nothing,
We're still waiting on two of our players to post this round. Once they do, then we will move on.
Na-Rizza, it's likely that the other gods, at least, would be able to see death, given their level of power.
I posted didnt I
Haha so its going to be like that is it, making a play for Scalykind, well I'll play with you, could be you want to push death back to being Evil, Can do that no problem, or you want you wee men to have a bad old time, ether way, will be fun to rain down hell fire on them for a while. Races have to learn not to mess with Dragons. So thanks Aurus now I can shift her back to evil, it was getting dull.
I think you may have an unforseen problem with that ruling and view point GM, here is my view, tell me if you think I have a point.
By saying a player god can SEE all and over hear ALL with in any other player gods dealings your going to push the game to always toward happy collaborative worlds, where evil and hidden plans can only be done in a hidden from by the GM V NPC gods etc. I can see that being a real problem with a game system like this.
If as you say the GM is a facilitator in this system, then that kind of brakes that. The only other way is to build up a load of points the act in one round so they can act with out a player saying..
"Well I knew what was going on and what was said and so I did this"
This means you will also get Evil Gods hording point so they can act in one action round as they can act with out being stopped with a
"I knew all along"
It was one of the things that lead me to drop out for some rounds, illness meant it was longer, but hayho [By the way it was 5]. Aim was to have the points to be evil, but you stopped that.
I shifted her to good and now we have a nice N or good set of player gods for our now nice happy world.
Luckily Aurus just may have shuck that up and given Na-Rizzer and me a real resin to be evil.
PS, you know this could be the reason in other game worlds gods have power over their own sub realms, where they can't be overseen and where they can craft plans. Its just Dull otherwise.
Shifting Na-Rizzer back to evil
Someone just killed one of her Children, A black Dragon no less, and dragged it off to a lab to play with its body, so they can make a race sudo-dragons.
Seems she has a Civilization to punish.
Yes a Vengeful evil god, this is going to be sooo much fun.
Miolla, I don't believe you did.
Na-Rizza, the point of that ruling is to ensure that no god is more powerful than the rest, or can do things behind the other's backs. If you want to do things they disagree with, that's entirely fine. There can be evil plans, and that puts it up to the players to decide how they will react. With regards to the evil, I'm fine with Na-Rizza being either neutral or evil, I don't overly care, but I'd appreciate it if you could pick an alignment and stick to it in order to maintain a consistent character. You started evil, then switched to neutral, and it seems based on what you said to Aurus that you are now evil again, which is more flip-flopping than I'd like to see if possible.
I trust the other players to not meta-game, and to be able to put themselves into their character and act as their deity would.
What did I do specifically that stopped you from acting as you wished? I haven't, to my memory, intentionally stopped anyone from doing things that they wished to. If I did, I apologize, this is my first game and I'm still learning as I go.
With regards to the sub-domains, perhaps it would be a part of their lore that they have such a place, developed between the world-creation and when we begin our campaign within the world, but for simplicity's sake, I'd like to avoid that for the time being, so that building this world is a collaborative effort, rather than everyone building their own little part, since you all have to play in it together.
Going to say right now, I have not read the entirety of Na-Rizzer's post. I don't have a lot of time lately so I skimmed. If I misunderstand anything let me know, none the less I think I got the gist of it.
Na-Rizzer I always planned on making the Vus Drakes, I picked a black dragon because they are evil and would attack the tower and claim the swamp. The set up matches their nature and phycology. A red dragon would go after a volcano, a blue the desert, and a green the forest. Their mindsets are all different as well so they would go about it in different ways. Black dragons are not the strongest or smartest, only a white dragon is lower on the evil dragon rankings of both brains and power. My decisions have nothing to do with other gods and as yet are not in reaction to other gods.
I clear any gray area material with the GM before hand. This includes the Vus Drakes and the fluff I made with them. I think you need to as the GM said settle on something. Your stated avatar and scared animal was ravens last I checked. You shapeshifted into a black dragon during one of your post but any god can do the same. So unless I missed it I don't know when you made the change. Regardless, being a black dragon does not mean you can attack a tower full of masters and walk away any less then attacking Ns'gau that specializes in war magic.
hold on there Aurus, I made what I said clear and with logic.
None of what you said matters in a game where Gods can and do have the power of vengeance and destruction. Its in the rules etc.
I really do not need a reason as an Evil god to visit my wrath.
I have but one thing in the world the Dragons and your messing with them.
Thing is you Picked to make a playable Sub-race of Dragons and I was going to do the same thing to follow her theme of mother of Scale Kind and Dragons, Now you could not have missed that about her, and my play.
Out of all the races you could make you picked one in her area. Sorry pal but that's just plain rude and tantamount to a challenge.
Why did I not make one, well, I did not this round because of a of a sucky roll. As for PMing The GM stuff, I did not have to time to peg down the GM on this as I only just got back to using a Computer after my illness.
[I seem to get a lot of them in this game.]
Even if I had I was NOT thinking of making a Dragon and using its body for mad experiments to make an Abomination of them.
She will still act in the way 'Her' nature and physiology dictates, as the mother of Dragons she would do nothing less.
Like I said you have been warned, evil is coming to those that Profane and kill Dragons for experiments.
What you as a player do is up to you, just as its the same for me.
I made it clear under spoiler why she would act the way she will and why she feels justified in what she will do.
Because who doesn't need a little cold war stand off?
Hi guys,
Ok just wanted to make some things clear, 1st off, I have been a game tester for a long time, that's what attracted me to this game, a chance to see what it could do, so bear that in mind, when reading the following.
I think I may have found something in the game that in my view could lead to problems with play and what players do.
Its this, with gods having the power to gain privacy that is not be found or talk one on one with another god with out being over heard or have other players show up and interject into the action.
Any way back to my Point, It's interesting to note that in setting out a world where there is no pricey of action in game. That your left with Gods showing up and interject into any action in any way, be it good game play to bad old trolling.
Imagine if you will a gods grand in game event, with that God in its creations high temple, there making a new order, when I another god shows up and starts to throw cream pies at everyone. Just what is the mechanism for that 1st God to stop the second unless you have means stating, some kind limits to interference. As is all you can do is use retaliation as set out in the game rules. This then becomes the ONLY means of stopping interference. This then I feel warps game play, it even states in the rules that a play hord 50 points so as to do a set of actions very much along this line
So where dos one find pricey, well you make it where you can You can do as Yhev has and Not fill out your PC sheep, get the pricey of mystery by withholding information from other players, Just what aliment is Yhev, what colors dos he like etc. That kind of game pricey or your PMing outside of game master and other players knowledge. And that's just about all you can do. The lets got to the other room and don't look at my PC sheet thing.
well there you have it, just wanted a means to so this point.
PS, thanks Yhev for the help. :)
PS,
Hay!!! hows a female god meant to take a bath if all the male gods are looking at her boobys. Something to think about.
Note that I didn't say that there is no privacy, I merely stated that your idea that nobody at all could possibly notice you if you didn't want to be seen was unrealistic. There is certainly privacy, but if someone is trying to find you, then with all their divine power they will likely be able to find you.
Which is the same thing, with in game play, if they want to look at a female gods boobys then you can at any time, ergo, no privacy.
You can't say there is privacy, but anyone can come see you at any time, that's Orwellian double speck., sorry but it is.
You ether have privet space or you don't, having a fellow gods go anywhere they like at any time, means NO privet time and NO privet space so no privacy.
I asked that fellow god respect that but one clearly states he spends he's time around other gods privet realms as his preferred location,
"Another unique ability that Aurus possesses is showing up in the most unexpected and well guarded of places."
I hope you see where I am coming from here,
I'm afraid that that's a problem you'll have to sort out if it comes up(although to be honest I doubt it will). My ruling stands, for the sake of keeping this game relatively simple and focused on world-building. I apologize if you don't agree with it.
I don't think gods are really concerned with boobys, but I see what you're getting at.
I'll add a profile sometime today. Never quite got around to it.
Well your the GM your roles but I am not happy about this, with out some form of real privacy in game this it will foster limited game play, sorry, I feel I have shown how.
As of now, my PC will stay in the underworld and HORDE her points,
there will be no spending until 3ed age and close to the end. I want to test this idea of collecting Points in a big pot as the rules show and then act.
You can seek her all you wish, she will not respond to any of you until the last few rounds,
In her view there is no point making things if other gods can gang up just take them and do as they wish, she feels a peeping tom and his mate have victimised her. She will bide her time for her vengeance.
TTFN
If that is what you want to do, then it is your prerogative, but you misunderstand Yhev greatly if you think he is siding with Aurus to bully you.
Yhev is true neutral, and what it seems you are planning to do is unjustified and could cause disastrous repercussions. Now imagine if you were to cause a catastrophe that would wipe out all of Aurus's doing. Would Aurus take it, or would he then follow through with another catastrophe? What you are doing is escalating the natural order of the world. Yhev has no problem with this if it is truly what you'd like to do, but he must speak up if it threatens his work, which it does.
Though the sparklings, or any of the other races, may not be his own, he keeps a watchful eye on them because it is they who feed him with their knowledge. Without these creatures, a great part of his intake is diminished. Yhev must maintain his constant stream of knowledge.
Question: Are your dragons all one of a kind? It seems, by your frustration, that they are, though we may all have been under the impression that they are not.
1:She has the Domain Dragons and Sub Scale kind, that's hers, she sees any one messing with that as someone seeking to take that away from her. A god say making scale kind to worship them for instance.
2: She has yet to make a Scale race and thats what has her angry
as well. [Being ill and losing all points adding to this]
3: She dos no wish to wipe out the sparklings but the Draconic sub-race they are seeking to make from her dead child's body. just to be 100% clear.
4: The 1st time a real evil god dos something evil, the get jumped on, seems a shame but I do wish to build not distory, but I can see no other way for her to protect the one thing she has in the world.
Outside of that
I think you both misunderstanding the nature of true Neutral,
This statement is not true Neutral,
"what it seems you are planning to do is unjustified and could cause disastrous repercussions."
That is the statement of a lawful good/good god. Just as the caring way
Aurus has protected his Spakings and used is power to build there cultivation is a good gods actions. Your good lets face it. true Neutral is just misleading.
Actions speak louder then words, what you say dos not matter its what you do that dos.
We have a evil god that has done no evil or destroying, true Neutral gods that Shepherd and protect cultivations.
So lets be clear,
You know she is 100% justified in her actions right.
Another gods creations did kill one of her children and defile its body under there orders, to use near necromancy to craft a hydride race, of scale kind, of which she is the god of.
read that again so its in your mind. Now look at her actions.
Lucky for her She made Dragons so they reincarnate. But if you think she is going to had over a domain of hers Scalekind to another god you have another think coming. This is about respect and power. HER POWER over HER Domain. One the thief god wants to take, do you really think she is going to roll over and let him with out a fight.
O one once he has taken form her he's not going to stop, its his nature to steal, he says hes killed one god, do you think he's going to let fate. rule over him, no no your next. He takes the one thing that matters most, its in his Bio, so look out your lot, hes want stop.
I may do this in game with your PC would be fun.