@5gp - It' because I can't read a chart properly. Should be 10gp :P
@Make Whole - I know. Sadly, not on the investigators list. I have to make due with downtime repairs instead : )
(Hmm, maybe I could bribe Castor into making a few scrolls somehow ...)
Scribing scrolls:
The list of scrolls I would like to scribe (remaining budget 1425 gp):
...
Total costs: 1250
Total time: 3 days, 4 hours
...
Apparently it is not a good idea to post these things when there is time pressure in RL... ;-)
Total costs: 1250/2= 625 gp
Total time: 11 days (10 of them only 2 hours each)
I hope that is a final post regarding this issue ;-)
@5gp - It' because I can't read a chart properly. Should be 10gp :P
@Make Whole - I know. Sadly, not on the investigators list. I have to make due with downtime repairs instead : )
(Hmm, maybe I could bribe Castor into making a few scrolls somehow ...)
@5gp - it should be 15 as you have to pay someone to show you a copy of the spell (see bellow)
Add Spells to Your Spellbook (downtime rules)
If you're a magus or wizard, you can spend 1 day of downtime to copy up to eight spells from other sources into your spellbook (see Spells Copied from Another's Spellbook or a Scroll). If you're an alchemist, you can use this option to add new formulae to your formula book. If you're a witch, you can use this option to add spells to your familiar. You may spend Magic toward the cost of copying spells.
up to eight spells – I guess in reality this means spell levels…
Spells Copied from Another's Spellbook or a Scroll (Core – magic)
A wizard can also add a spell to his book whenever he encounters one on a magic scroll or in another wizard's spellbook. No matter what the spell's source, the wizard must first decipher the magical writing (see Arcane Magical Writings / using Read Magic). Next, he must spend 1 hour studying the spell. At the end of the hour, he must make a Spellcraft check (DC 15 + spell's level). A wizard who has specialized in a school of spells gains a +2 bonus on the Spellcraft check if the new spell is from his specialty school. If the check succeeds, the wizard understands the spell and can copy it into his spellbook (see Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook). The process leaves a spellbook that was copied from unharmed, but a spell successfully copied from a magic scroll disappears from the parchment.
If the check fails, the wizard cannot understand or copy the spell. He cannot attempt to learn or copy that spell again until one week has passed. If the spell was from a scroll, a failed Spellcraft check does not cause the spell to vanish.
In most cases, wizards charge a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks. This fee is usually equal to half the cost to write the spell into a spellbook (see Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook). Rare and unique spells might cost significantly more.
Costs:
Lvl 1 spell – 15 gp (10 gp writing + 5 gp fee for copying) / DC 16
Lvl 2 spell – 60 gp (40 gp writing + 20 gp fee for copying) / DC 17
Lvl 3 spell – 135 gp (90 gp writing + 45 gp fee for copying) / DC 18
@Make Whole - I am not making a scroll now but Make Whole is in my spell book and I will have it memorized once in "standard array" - I have thought it could come in handy... ;-)
Derp. I think this might only reinforce the 'don't mess with your character late at night' point :P
I'll fix it by tomorrow : )
@5gp - It' because I can't read a chart properly. Should be 10gp :P
@Make Whole - I know. Sadly, not on the investigators list. I have to make due with downtime repairs instead : )
(Hmm, maybe I could bribe Castor into making a few scrolls somehow ...)
well...there's this.
Disable or rig - extremely complex device - 2d4 rounds - DC 25 - Disable or reset a complex trap, cleverly sabotage a clockwork deviceI think you are a extremely complex clockwork device :)
But possibly, I could jury rig you if you are down? (as Diehard Feat)
Like,
"Come on, Ophelia, get up...get UP, we need you, you don't want to miss the grand finale of this do you! Come on, MOVE, you can do it!"
And then you jump back up into action because I rolled a natural 20.
Also, speaking of intimidate, a little birdy gave me an idea, and I was wondering, how much would you price a Bear Pelt of the Bonebreaker with the Beast Shape II into a bear changed into a Beast Shape I into a wolf? :D
With the added scent ability, I would be a decent tracker! For 7 minutes a day. :P
The pelt itself is a religious item for a deity that won't take Diene!
Pricing a custom item?
The +2 intimidate is easy. I'd look for an item that does the wolf form. Worst case it's a 3rd level spell 1/day.
I'm not keen on it for Diene though - wolf form doesn't seem to fit the character, unless I'm missing something?
Ok, so, normally, a 1/day fourth level spell, would be over 10k. Yet Bear Pelt in question has a bunch of other abilities and is significantly less than than that. The reason? Beast Shape limited to one form is WAAAY less useful than beast shape to whatever you want. The flexibility of beast shape is its true power, "Oh, I need to go underwater. Pop, underwater animal!" "Oh, I need to fly, pop bird!" So on so forth. Limiting it to a single animal is a lot less impressive.
As for thematically, Castor made a Little Red Riding Hood reference, and I'm deciding to run with it. :P
@DM/big red crimson hood
let me bring out and present Exhibit B
which is priced at 7k and adds some minor other stuff to the beast shape to make it fitting. (plus, 80 feet fly speed).
Make of that what you will, but I guess custom-pricing based on the abilities is a thing for those.
also @ Dienne: If you get stuck with a cursed prototyp item, I'll volunteer to be the one to go for walkies with you. I always wanted a pet!
@ Daria D'aaaaw. :3
Any reason you chose a lycanthrope instead of a wolf?
I'm a bit disappointed, as that'll be significantly less impressive than a wolf suddenly breaking out dragon style kung fu.
Yeah, but for 400 more gold and a questionable deity choice, I could get back the +2 intimidate, AND have the choice of whether it's a wolf or a lycanthrope and treat it as Polymorph instead of alter self and have a higher caster level.
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If you'd look at the example I presented, it looks like Paizo's opinion is that only getting one form is worth more than 75% off.
Hell, there's a polymorph with intimidate bonus, with TWO allowed forms, for only 2800! Compared to the 16,200 that should cost, you're getting more than 80% off before you even count the intimdate.
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Also, it's a bit inconvenient to be held to those rules if you're anything but an idealized Fighter. I don't use armor or weapons, so that leaves a fifty percent gap in my budget. :P
I can worship Venkelvore or Zarongel (both of whom have no restriction vs non-goblins* and TN is one away from their alignment), depending on if I want to be really hungry or like burning things.
*that I could find via freely available material.
As long as we assume Mother Millie's got some magic item crafting going on the side, I think that makes perfect sense. :D
Cool, cool.
Diene worships Zarongel, but only because she has a cloak that only works if she worships him. Which is sure to backfire entertainingly eventually. :D
Remember WBL:
7K is way too much for armour.
Uhm, that was not a suggestion, just another example of price reduction from the base spell, while adding gimmicks :)
But glad you guys sorted that out.Does that mean "Crimson" is now prone to setting fires?
I mean, it fits...but...well, lets try and only set fires to things that should burn, ok?
All right, proper cost:
15*5+60*7 = 495, 5gp left in 'bribe fund'
All 'spells' are learn able via Take 10 average, so that should not be a problem :)
Edit: Aaand I noticed I already had Identify.
Right cost, try 3: 480gp
On double checking, it seems like Zarongel, despite having fire portfolio and BEING ON FIRE, doesn't actually do that. His most prominent trait is mostly about being a wolf.
As for the trait, I like it flavor wise, but mechanically, there's no bonus, as I'd have to take additional traits to get any use out of it, and I don't have free feats in my build for quite awhile.
what do you mean, mechanically there's no bonus.
It's right there.
Goblins will identify you as a Goblin.
No alter self needed, just don't wear makeup and every goblin considers you as one among them. What was the other Half of your Half-elf side again? ^_^
and
picking up their culture, beliefs and diseases.
So you have table manners similar to a dog for free, and some diseases wizards thought would never make the jump from goblins to other humanoids. I have to ask, were you raised as a goblin too?
Many tribes raise their children communally in cages or pens where adults can largely ignore them.
Just kidding of course, sorry, couldn't resist..., but I am curious what kind of "honorary" traits we all end up with. And, of course, what kind of stuff we will have to deal with after this downtime thing ends. Got transferred here and now I just sit in a shared room reading the books I brought with me, and now and then get to tinker with stuff a bit.
It would also make Diene an incredibly effective detective when dealing with investigating crimes that involve goblins in Quantium. It's a very powerful social trait. You're by default friendly with an entire species that everyone else has a hard time getting along with.
Diene vs the cloak
- I find it extremely funny: slightly mad and egotistical woman, friend of all goblins, able to change into a wolf - it is like a cross between Roxanne (Winner Takes All) and Little Red Riding Hood (monster version) - the love of burning would suit her well - not really a Guard stereotype, is she? :-) But I can see why they would put her on the bump-back squad
- The Barghest Cloak is 3.5 originally. But the only difference I see there is that with PF rules it would probably reference Beast Shape II directly and had only 5 minutes/day
- It is probably the best option for this kind of thing, BS II is the best one for wolf creature anyway
@Diene/Traits - You sorta get one or two fitting traits for free in this game, so I wouldn't worry about the feat slot : )
Well that's the thing. It gives me the ability to take goblin feats and traits. Except that I have no more feats and traits to spend. For several more levels. As much as I like Advantageous Distraction and Goblin Foolhardiness, both being very nice for her story wise and with a mechanical benefit, they're not something I'd ever spend Additional Traits to get.
So, unless the other free trait I get is "pick a goblin trait" the only advantage is getting along with a race of creatures that have never done anything important other than steal messages that when recovered by level 1 adventurers get said level 1 adventurers on their epic quest.
I mean, sure, at this point I'm statting up a Pangolin juggling goblin to be my archrival, but that doesn't mean I'm completely sold on the idea.
@the trait, how about adding a mechanical bonus of +1 Fortitude Saves versus Diseases and Poison?(because you develop some immunities when you spend enough time around goblins)
it's a minor thing since its very selective, but a mechanical effect in ADDITION to what Isama pointed out, and it would fit well with the background.
and similar in power as traits could give a flat +1 on a save, without other benefits.
I think I would prefer spending a skill point on goblin, then going with my second adopted. Everyone wants to adopt Diene! Even Daria, if eternal cursed puppy happens. :P
We spent the day in a zoo with our twins. I will post when they are asleep and I have a chance to power up my laptop...
Fun fact of the day: Ophelia weights more then 10x as much as Daria.
(Note to self: Don't fall over the halfling!)
Hey all,
@Mia: I haven't forgotten your PMs, but I read them as 'get the game started and we can keep talking'.
Aye, and that was exactly how they were meant :)
There is a talking clock in the room, and he is an ex-clockmaker Dwarf. I couldn't stop him, I tried!
Ahaha, sorry guys. Weekends will be a bit slower for me.
Sorry all, I've got an interview today. Hoped to get something out this morning but it was not to be. Will aim for tonight.
whenever is fine for you!
I've heard it said DM burnout was one of the leading causes of PbP game death, so definitely handle things at your leisure and pace, if we have to wait a bit longer, or the time is not optimal for us(e.g. weekend for some) then we'll work around that.At least I do hope I speak for the others too when saying that.
"This is not the suicide squad! Only Isabella, Anastacia, Dara, Walter, Shang, Tieszla, Navia, Laznist, Sefu and Laurestine has died and/or disappeared mysteriously..."
To boost the squads confidence :D
"This is not the suicide squad! Only Isabella, Anastacia, Dara, Walter, Shang, Tieszla, Navia, Laznist, Sefu and Laurestine has died and/or disappeared mysteriously..."
To boost the squads confidence :D
- Dara...dead/MIA
- Navia..dead/MIA
- Daria..active duty
- Previously assigned Bard Archeologists: 1
- Number of those who happily retired, finding another purpose and goal in life: 0(Zero)
- Number of those who died horribly or got dragged into a nether dimension by an undescribable nightmare: 1(100%)
"Great job, Ophelia, confidence is at an all-time high!
I suppose the spankings and whippings will continue until morale improves, too?"
Nah, I wouldn't worry too much.
For one, we sorta know for a fact that Dara was eaten by/sacrificed to a d(a)emon so she is firmly in the 'dead' category. No confusion there!
So... No worries, eh?^^
Nah, I wouldn't worry too much.
For one, we sorta know for a fact that Dara was eaten by/sacrificed to a d(a)emon so she is firmly in the 'dead' category. No confusion there!
So... No worries, eh?^^
Na, all fine, no worries.
If I do end up getting sacrificed to a demon in some way, could you arrange for it to be a incubus? I suppose energy-drain with a suggestion to keep going is a lot more pleasurable than getting eaten alive.
Then, of course, I'd prefer not dying in the first place, which kind of includes that. At least there'll probably be a mobile stonewall and a signal-colored thug between me and whatever wants to snack on me, at least as long as we are not dealing with that child-trafficking ring in Dienne's background.
Ophelia doesn't know any d(a)emons, but perhaps that could still be arranged ...
And remember, we don't have to run faster then our foes, just our dwarf :P
Now that was quick for the paladin to be taken advantage of. Only five minutes in!
The running away part or Daria's trick :P?
both, i suppose :)
sorry thirus, not really meant as "taking advantage of", but you made the claim already, so thought I'll try and get you to reinforce it-
@Ophelia: Completely correct you are...and I run as fast as Human Children, with 30ft, so yep, I'm faster than him :)
both, i suppose :)
sorry thirus, not really meant as "taking advantage of", but you made the claim already, so thought I'll try and get you to reinforce it-
I can still remove my post if you'd prefer that, but was not really meaning ill with it.
@Ophelia: Completely correct you are...and I run as fast as Human Children, with 30ft, so yep, I'm faster than him :)
No,no! It is a very cool RP moment for the dwarf. Don't take it away!
No,no! It is a very cool RP moment for the dwarf. Don't take it away!
I won't- just wanted you to know where it came from, and how it was meant. Difficult to transmit intent and meaning without OOC. Glad you are fine with it.
The offer to remove was mainly if you had felt offended by it.