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Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 30/40 | Willpower: 8/8

I imagine most of you know about this already, but if not, Onyx Path is running a Kickstarter for a Deluxe V20 Edition of Vampire: the Dark Ages if you are interested.

Also on that site is a link to the manuscript which is 99% of the material they will be publishing, so you can review before you buy it!

Link

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Sweet. Thanks Talomyr. I will have to check it out!
Shadow's Status

Will update the thread at some point this week, been very busy.

I got back last night and currently at work (with a mountain of things to do) but i am back....

:)
Shadow's Status

Sorry been busy. Will try to post by tomorrow!

hehe Life HappenZ :)
Shadow's Status

Sorry Gents still in the weeds over here.

By Wednesday work will have cleared out a bit and I will get back to normal posting.
5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 30/40 | Willpower: 8/8

No worries.
Shadow's Status

Can't catch a few spare minutes.

Will post when I can! :-(

No worries, real life always comes first!
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Alessandro is patient!
Shadow's Status

Work is piling up instead of disappearing. At any rate, I will try to post on Sunday night as I have been very delinquent here. Bad ST!

On the bright side, I pledged for the V20 DA book so I will see what rules differ on that side as we move forward with the campaign.

Thanks for your patience folks!

nay don't worry :)

Your dedication and hard work have earned you a well deserved "vacation".

We all await with baited breath expecting your triumphant return as you shuck the marrow from the bones of the weak.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Well accept extra XP. :)
Shadow's Status

Still here. Friday is looking like the most likely time for me to review my notes and most recent posts and update the thread.

No extra XP I am afraid :-(
Shadow's Status

Oi, what a crappy weekend. Anyway, work will be slowing down for me this week so I should be able to update this week at work. Thank god, I am starting to forget what the heck is going on in the various storylines!
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Take care of business!

indeed
Shadow's Status

Finally, up and running again!
Shadow's Status

Feelin sick, will respond to the posts by Wednesday to keep things going.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Feel better!

Will post tomorrow sorry for the delay
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

A wonderful and happy Thanksgiving to all who partake of the roast avian beast! Unless your vegetarian, in which case you may partake of tofu-key! Not so avian, but we get the jist!

Happy thanksgiving everyone

It was good....

FYI: I will not be able to update until next saturday as i am away from home at the moment
Shadow's Status

Not a problem, I am moving slowly anyway as I am so busy at work lately.
Max Blood Pool/Current = 20/10

Dark Heresy series just finish and will be gearing up for the Black Crusade game if anyone is still interested.

http://paizo.com/campaigns/BlackCrusade

World Eater on Deck
Shadow's Status

Should ease off next week then we can get back to the game. Thanks for the patience gentlemen.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Patience is a virtue...
Shadow's Status

Baby got me sick last week. Its been a rough few months. Good news is that soon I should get the 20th anniversary edition of the Dark Ages book. Other good news is that I may be able to do an actual update this week. I will try to be more active certainly by the new year.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Hoping baby is feeling better. Cool.

No worries, expected a holiday break anyway
Shadow's Status

Thread updated for everyone. :-)
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Daughter's BDay follows up the holidays! Today, with 5yr old Frozen bash yesterday. Will post ASAP.

Sorry all.

Happy New year to everyone.

Have being over celebrating to a reasonable degree,

Wish you all a better 2015 than 2014 was :)
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Happy New Year!

Happy new year to you all
Shadow's Status

Still waiting for Alessandro and Michele to respond in game. I believe that this night will be over relatively soon and the next day can begin, well for some of you, one of you shall never see the light of day again...at least not for long enough to do much but perish horrifically.

Soon, we will do a few weeks of downtime [in game] and regroup as there are some important events I ant to get to now that most of the background work has been laid down for the real meat of the story. Yeah, I know 5,000 posts is a lot of background :-)
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Honestly, the hesitation is because I'm a bit lost... Too much to do and no way to do it.
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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Honestly, the hesitation is because I'm a bit lost... Too much to do and no way to do it.

I hear you, that is part of what delays my posting at times as well. Do whatever you think is best next. We will be moving into some down time shortly so some of these issues will resolve themselves while others will not...

I have to admit, I just pulled a line off the internet.........

Spoiler:

http://kencollins.com/worship/pray-32.htm
Shadow's Status

Will update the thread tomorrow or Wednesday. Things are moving forward now as another one of your ilk has fallen under the fang....
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Talk like that makes me want to be a Hunter.

Makes for a good dark secret flaw, you were a hunter before you were turned. I tried it once in a modern game....unfortunately the game fell apart before the intrigue began.
Ventrue | Gen 7 | Blood 20/20

Maybe someone who is embraced as he's being recruited by hunters... :)
Shadow's Status

I will be submitting a response to the thread tonight or tomorrow, been feeling sick all week, again. Damn kids...
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