Grumblegrumble. I'll smear him next time.
No update tonight since the site will be down when I get home tonight. Sorry for the delay.
Can't wait to see the next round. I don't know how good it looks for us lol.
We could turn it around. Neile's about to go all waif-fu on these baddies.
Beast mode!
Or not, only two of you are still standing.
As I said though, I'm not going to kill you all because I screwed up.
Run? Where? We have a cripple a little bit back and a bunch of people on the ground who will (or based on the creatures we're fighting, should) get eaten if we leave them behind.
Even if Neile and Tehina run we'd have to leave the NPC's(minus Horgus) and our downed friends behind. The only possible win would be if Aravashniel suddenly appears to be a high level wizard that one shots the whole bunch, that or divine intervention.
Well, Salsa, I hope you've learned a valuable lesson in encounter design...
Yeah, don't give monsters point buys.
Sorry guys, I hope you don't mind some GM intervention.
Well we didn't use our resources as effectively as we could
We don't.
Sorry if I came over as aggressive in my previous post, wasn't my intention. Or actually it was at the time but it shouldn't have been, I'm sorry for that. It was more frustration than anything else.
Don't worry about it, Salsa. It was an easy encounter to goof up, especially with our outrageous power at level 1. I'm good.
Don't worry about it, Salsa. It was an easy encounter to goof up, especially with our outrageous power at level 1. I'm good.
The problem is, it's only our Offensive power that's outrageous. Defensively, except for Bimbur, we're actually pretty bog-standard for level 1. AC's are 19 or lower, excluding Bimbur. A few of us are at 14 hp, which is a little high for a group average, but not for a single PC.
Tactically, we're probably way worse off waiting for them to come to us at the doors...
I'm good too. You know my home brews are on hard mode, but characters have bada$$ stuff too.
Characters can die. Hopefully we learn from this too.
We go in the room, we'd have to split up and it'd leave our flanks open, and it allows even more of them to attack at once. With their amped up to hit and damage stats, plus paralysis, plus the ghast's odor, plus the other thing in there, we were going to get overwhelmed. Not a big deal, it happens to all players/GMs at some point.
Okay, I'll have something up later. This was my goof, and I'm not keen on killing characters this early in the game. Challenge, yes, but not TPKing on the second encounter.
Besides I picked you guys because I wanted to get your characters. If I kill them off this early that'd kinda defeat the purpose. When I kill off a character for real, I want it to be gut-wrenching. I don't think we're there yet.
We go in the room, we'd have to split up and it'd leave our flanks open, and it allows even more of them to attack at once. With their amped up to hit and damage stats, plus paralysis, plus the ghast's odor, plus the other thing in there, we were going to get overwhelmed. Not a big deal, it happens to all players/GMs at some point.
Hindsight is 20/20...
If you can't survive not being flanked, it doesn't really matter if you get flanked.
On the other hand, if we're in place before Bimbur opens the door, and charge in the surprise round... Even beefed up like they are, Ulfr, Karas, and Rakeesh might be able to one-shot the ghouls. Carry that over into round 1, even if we just drop two or three, we're way better off.
Well, yeah, they mowed through us in about one round, so flank or not didn't matter, but in general, not being flanked always beats getting flanked ;)
Well, yeah, they mowed through us in about one round, so flank or not didn't matter, but in general, not being flanked always beats getting flanked ;)
Kill enough of them in the opening salvo and you don't have to worry about being flanked.
Pathfinder generally rewards offense over defense, and that's doubly true right now with this group.
With mage armor I could have tanked them all at ac30 defensive and let the supports and adcs mop up.
But I may be the only lol player here.
I did put myself ten feet away to avoid a full attack, but they may have had pounce.
(I play LoL too)
Worst case scenario is most of the party just becomes undead and we continue on as good aligned abominations of nature.
Or is that the best case scenario...
I'd call it a mid-case. Worst is five of you have to roll new characters.
With mage armor I could have tanked them all at ac30 defensive and let the supports and adcs mop up.
But I may be the only lol player here.
I did put myself ten feet away to avoid a full attack, but they may have had pounce.
That's interesting. My experience with tabletop (or pbp) is that as soon as you you become "unhittable", you become uninteresting to enemies. They just go around you to get to the squishies.
There's no real taunt/incite mechanic, so "tanking" becomes more about battlefield control than putting a meat-block in front of a baddie. In that sense, I think of Tehina more as a "tank".
The only way to play a more mmo style tank is by playing a Barbarian and grabbing the Come and get me Rage Power.
Beyond that it tends to be like Rakeesh said, be unhittable and you get ignored.
I did not see the ghouls as having a sophisticated strategy.
The unarmored dwarf does not in any way look unhittable.
It honestly depends on the monster. An orc raider isn't necessarily going to behave in the same manner as the red dragon that's lived a thousand years. As Chainmail says, though, the ghouls didn't have much of a strategy, they just hit really hard.
Well that's interesting... Not sure what Rakeesh's next move is if he rips those chains from the wall...
This is gonna be interesting lol. Should we assume we're at 1hp?
Man, Neile is not having a good day. City in ruins, woke up in darkness, found some people who were actually nice to her (at least one of whom didn't think she was crazy), had a couple of breakdowns, then left her new friends to be eaten by ghouls.
I don't often want to give one of my own characters a big hug, but damn.
As for you guys currently with the ghouls? I'll be watching with popcorn.
Oh, sure... Let's all hug the girl that didn't get eaten by disease-ridden zombies! =P
Ghouls, not zombies. ;-)
I agree that yes, those of you who got your butts kicked by the undead beasties are probably having a worse day. Hugs all around, then? :P
Yay hugs. Boo Ghouls.
Ah, zombies. With their staggered condition and not-so-deadly slam attack. Who else misses the zombies? =)
It'll be getting more interesting in a bit.
And yes, all of you in the chapel are at 1 HP.
Wow.... welp I can't break the chains lol
Now to expend 9 rage filled violent rounds :)
Suspense...
Of course I'm quite confidant that after 4 rounds of completely ineffectual combat, and strength checks that reached 28, my one slightly better than mediocre Intimidate check will almost certainly save us all....
(<_<) (>_>) (o_O)
I would add a -10 circumstance modifier to intimidate checks by PCs that are completely restrained after you totally kicked their a$$. But that is me :-)
What's the Str check to tear a limb from a socket? I'm sure if Rakeesh and I each got one arm that we could get ourselves some improvised weapons.
I would add a -10 circumstance modifier to intimidate checks by PCs that are completely restrained after you totally kicked their a$$. But that is me :-)
What!?!? That is an outrageous abuse of the DM's priviledge! -9, maybe. But, -10? Unthinkable! :-P
I honestly don't know how to track when my 9 rounds of rage are used up and I slump into fatigue lol. But i'm likely to wrench my own arms out of socket first lol
Does an arm count as an improvised or natural weapon? :P
I say it's improvised naturally. I mean, what else is a pseudo-barbarian to do when you take his weapons except go Chewbacca on you?
Hey guys,
Just a heads up. I will be out of communication for the most part starting thursday and ending monday. Yay vacations!
Don't worry. We'll just be hanging here! [/pun] :)
*facepalm* *rimshot*
I'd love to try something cinematic, heroic, and possibly futile... but, at 1hp, I'm not sure there's anything to be done, except wait and see.
Anyone have any ideas?
Think we're all in that boat right now. At least until we're alone then I might be able to finagle something.
I'm just watching from the sidelines. Cheering for you guys. I've always liked a scrappy underdog. :P
Man, if/when the party meets up again, Neile is definitely adopting 'Jingly-Man' as her new father/brother figure. Hope you're cool with that, Ulfr. :P
Totally. :)