DM Mathpro's advanced Rise of the Runelords campaign (Inactive)

Game Master mathpro18

Just throwing this up for people to dot in.

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As you guys approach Sandpoint your hearts skip a beat for a few moments until you crest the final hill. Then you see it, Sandpoint in all its beautiful glory still there, no worse off then when you left. This means you are not to late to stave off the giant attacks that you learned about in the letter. Your heart resumes beating in your chest and you let out a collective breath as you approach the town. The streets were packed as you all came into town. Horns sounded as soon as you breech the gates and a loud cheer erupted. Confetti and streamers rained from open windows of buildings and the crowd barely parted around the party. Townspeople reached out trying to touch the "saviors of Sandpoint". As you make your way through the crowd you realize just how utterly uninformed of there impending doom they really are and a sense of dread starts to pull at your heart.

After a few moments the crowd dispersed and there it was. Right in the middle of town stood a 50 foot bronze statue of the party. A smiling Mayer Kendra Deverin stands to the left of the statue, wiping a tear from her eye at the surprised look on everyone's face. To the right of the statue stands Sheriff Hemlock with what you would swear was a smile on his face though it is hard to tell with his dour mood at the crowds in the streets.

Kresham can't help but feel cheered up with all the joy, even despite the knowledge of impending doom burdening his shoulders. However when the statue is unveiled, he is just speechless. He turns around to his fellows. "Would you just look at that - now that is going to make a good target!", he says discordantly.

Skarn looks back and forth between the statue and his companions. Finally he chuckles and says, "as ugly as that darned thing is, it sure seems that they did their best to catch your good side there Garrosh. Still, they didn't need to have the three of you towering over me like a bunch of damn stoney giants! Lookit there, being in the shade all the time, I'm getting a bit off moss behind my ears. Blast it! The architect shoulda known better!" Skarn points at the sheriff, "somebody want to tell her the good news, or shall I?"

Just a reminder while the crowed has thinned a little to make it to where you can get to the statue there are still citizens around...no need to start a mass panic...unless you want to lol.

I said "good news" didn't I? Nobody should panic at good news!

Wren grumbled at the sight. She wasnt often in a great mood and the news that the giants were coming, and that the whole town had gathered bothered her even more. She cut through the festivities with amazing precision, so ing in between hem as she cut a swath through to get to the officials.

"Mayor, Sheriff, you need to get the people out of here. We might only have a few moments before this town is crawling with a horde of Giants. We need those people somewhere safe and safe now," she hissed, as she didn't want to spark a panic.

"Would you just look at that - now that is going to make a good target!", he says discordantly.

"Hrumpf!" - Garrosh snorted a laugh, both at their reception, and at the statue - "I gotta admit that's impressive, and will certainly catch everyone's attention"

Skarn looks back and forth between the statue and his companions. Finally he chuckles and says, "as ugly as that darned thing is, it sure seems that they did their best to catch your good side there Garrosh"

The snort was an all out laugh by now - "I'm not sure there is a 'good' side to be caught, but if there is, they surely found it!" - the half orc adds with a toothy smile, looking around and greeting those that went there to cheer them.

"Still, they didn't need to have the three of you towering over me like a bunch of damn stoney giants! Lookit there, being in the shade all the time, I'm getting a bit off moss behind my ears. Blast it! The architect shoulda known better!"

"Dunno what you mean - looks perfectly to scale from where I am looking" - Garrosh just keeps on laughing - "And the way you swing that pick of yours around, I doubt moss will ever gather anywhere on your body my friend!" - he offers with a good natured clap on the sturdy dwarf's shoulder.

Noticing Wren hastily moving off to speak with the mayor and sheriff, his tone becomes slightly somber as he follows her - "Here we go then?" - he nods to the others.

"She's always doing that!"

"Meh, someone had to tell them anyway - better her than me. Was hard enough not getting people in town just running away at my sight" - the half orc puts in, remembering his initial days in Sandpoint - "And you from cleaving my head" - he finishes, again with a chuckle.

I Realize I might have jumped ahead too far since we are just rolepying a bit. If you all any to say the crowd obstructed me, thats fine. I don't want to force things as I'm sure we will have a bit before Albion is ready.

You're fine Wren, I'm already enjoying the "role playing like we've been together awhile"

"Garrosh, we've been over this, I still insist I was ensorcelled when I took that swing at you!"

I am mostly done - brushing up on spells, and adding mundane gear ;)

"Ensorcelled you say? Only if it was by that most foul beverage they were serving at the Festival..." - the half orc bumps against his companion - "And I DOUBT that, since I've seen you down much worse in Magnimar, and still keep your wits about you" - he grumbles in a fake bad temper.

"So no. You were going for my head. Because of course, if goblins are attacking, surely the half-bred orc is up to no good also, right?!" - the words are harsh, but the jest is already familiar between the gigantic Garrosh and Skarn.

"Speaking of Magnimar, wasn't there a bet involved with that disgusting swill the elves call wine?"

"Ech!" - Garrosh stops dead in his tracks - "That did not leave a fond memory. Just a dull, semi-permanent headache... I told you not to push it, didn't I?"

"Dammit Orc! There was money and honor on the line! I couldn't let you all down."

"Half-Orc" - Garrosh sighs - "On the honor you know I stand with you, but the money... What was that? One hundred pieces? Bah! Well, you held your own, I'll give you that - I was getting ready to rub that one in until the day we die" - he winks at the dwarf - "There will be other chances I'm sure... Dwarf!"

"Yes, yes, but those elves didn't need the 100 gold, what would they do with it? Probably buy more dishwater wine instead of a real drink. We made much better use of the money than they ever could." Skarn shook his head.

Wren wrinkled her forehead and put her right hand up to it. Talking, talking, always with the talking! To be from the opposite side of the racial world, those two were peas in a pod.

"Yes, yes, the elven wine. I've heard about it. From you two. Like 15 times already!". Wren barely recalled her life before he Swallowtail Festival which brought she, the two miscreants, and that other one together. It's good they have have skills and are handy in a fight, she thinks, as her stress headache began to pulse even harder.

"Well Wren, fifteen times seems reasonable, it was three days ago after all. And we wouldn't have to tell you about such things if you could stay up past nine thirty!"

Noticing that Wren went straight for the mayor, Kresham catches up to her and grabs her on the shoulder.
"Wait, Wren, we have to be prudent about this", he says in an urgent whisper. "We don't want this throng of people to burst into panic - or it can cause as much damage as any raid. I think I have an idea. We more or less know the direction the giants will come from, right? Why don't we suggest to arrange the celebration in the opposite part of the town? And then we can privately talk to the mayor and the constable about setting up defenses."

"Yes, yes, but those elves didn't need the 100 gold, what would they do with it? Probably buy more dishwater wine instead of a real drink. We made much better use of the money than they ever could." Skarn shook his head.

"Hmmmm" - Garrosh ponders for a second - "I think I remember you taking the gold and spending it all on drinks for us" - he bursts into laughter again.

Noticing that Wren went straight for the mayor, Kresham catches up to her and grabs her on the shoulder.

"Wait, Wren, we have to be prudent about this", he says in an urgent whisper. "We don't want this throng of people to burst into panic - or it can cause as much damage as any raid. I think I have an idea. We more or less know the direction the giants will come from, right? Why don't we suggest to arrange the celebration in the opposite part of the town? And then we can privately talk to the mayor and the constable about setting up defenses."

"I would rather the celebrations would cease completely" - the half-orc voices his opinion in private, his tone now far from joyous - "These people should know the threats they face, so they can prepare accordingly"

The mayor and Sheriff look at you all slightly puzzled. The mayor speaks to you guys in a hushed tone "Is there something we need to discuss in private? If so we can do so after this ceramony and I'll make it short."

"I think speaking in private would probably be for the best. It's really important, so I'd keep it really quick if I were you. It might be a good idea to get them somewhere as protected as possible. The town is facing invaders."

Wren ignored Skarn's barbs, knowing the town was more important than growling at him. For the time being, that is.

Skarn considered the statue while enduring the rest of the ceremony. [b]"At least they got my hat right,"[b] he whispered to Garrosh.

The mayor turns to the crowed in the streets and waves a hand in front of her to finish silencing them. "Our hero's have returned to us. Let us rejoice as safety and prosperity has once again returned to Sandpoint." a loud cheer rings out through town and then dies down again. "I declare this day a day of celebration! Go forth and celebrate the return of our hero's! I decree all drinks and food at the taverns and services at the pixies kitten are half off today." The towns people quickly disperse to head to the taverns in town and some sneak off to the pixies kitten.

The mayor then turns to the group and says "There that got rid of them, lets speak in my office." She makes her way through the strangely empty streets it seems strange that just a few moments ago the streets were packed and now they are empty. The faint cheers and shouts coming from the Rusty Dragon as you pass by make you feel a certain sense of worry. What if the giants attack now, what if everyone lost their lives here on this day, a day of celebration and half priced debauchery. You are all snapped out of your revelry as you enter town hall and make your way into the mayors office.

"So what is it this time?" she says rather bluntly.

Is it wrong that when people headed towards the Pixie's Kitten, I wondered how much Shaeda will make today?

Skarn states, "well, your honor, it's certainly not good, but I think maybe Wren can tell it the best. She has a way of making bad news seem better than it is."

Kresham gives Skarn a nudge - don't start like that, you're just making it seem worse!
"Well it's not all bad, actually - I mean, the Kreeg ogres are totally not sending along their warband to Sandpoint after we've decimated their clanhold and slain the stone giant necromancer who had them enslaved into serving his warlord!"

She'd be rich lol then again she can only entertain so many at a time...no need to go into what that actual number is lol

"The ogres might not be coming, but there are giants who are most definitely on the way. They could be here any minutes, but the papers we saw leave no doubt. They are coming. We need to set whatever defenses we can muster."

Skarn listens to his companions before suggesting, "don't forget to tell her about the dragon."

"Oh, and a dragon is supposedly with them. This place might just be in a whole lot of trouble. We need to get prepared now, if not sooner."

Skarn smiles, "on the plus side, we are reasonably certain that there is only the one dragon."

"Yes, the news are dire and very serious" - Garrosh adds to the mayor, even if he wants to laugh at Skarn's comment - "Even though we should try to avoid panic as best as possible, defenses must be set up right now"

He ponders his next words very carefully - "And perhaps we should actually let the people know, so they may plan accordingly themselves"

As you all give the announcement the Mayor grows pale and eventually faints at the dire news.

Garrosh moves swiftly to prevent the mayor from falling down - the look on his face is a dire one - "We must act" - he nods at the others, laying Deverin gently on the nearest sofa - "Someone fetch some sugared water"

Just then there is a knock on the door and a man steps into the office "Umm...oh my...I see she's rather busy...I can come back later...though I don't suspect you can give her a message for me when she wakes?" Looking at the man he is a human, thin as a rail, and in his mid 40's. He's clothing is covered in dried blood and it looks like he hasn't slept or eaten in days. "its of the up most importance."

"A message of the utmost importance? Let me guess, is it about giants?"

Wren shook her head. "It has come to pass. The giants are near, aren't they? The Sheriff and the few guards we have need to focus on looking over the townsfolk. The rest of us, are going to have to take the fight to the giants. Remember, if my Confusion enchantment takes effect, let the giants start fighting amongst themselves. They might thin themselves out for us. I won't be much good against a dragon. Kresham might need to focus his ranged effects on that beast. And we all need to pray to whatever gods we have that we can hold the town."

Skarn chews his cigar a bit. "Far be it for me to disagree with you lass, but there's a reason them giants are coming here, and we don't know what it is. Some guy named Teraktinus, a giant most likely, is coming here for some specific reason. Now, it's a devil of a choice to make, but we must needs stop Teraktinus from achieving his goal. Perhaps at the expense of parts, or maybe the whole, of the town, but we need to do it. It is quite likely a greater good question"

"We can rush out to meet them, but we need more information, mainly their numbers" - Garrosh ponders - "What kind of defenses exactly would Sandpoint be able to muster?"

"If I had to make a guess, I would guess that the best portion of Sandpoint's defenses amount to two humans, an orc, and an insanely handsome dwarf"

There's got to be more - the Sheriff, guards?

"We've met an elven scout before - her name was Shalelu, I believe? If she's nearby, she may agree to help us protect Sandpoint and its people.

DM_Mathpro, what do we know about the military/security forces in Sandpoint - is there anything more than a militia or a few guards?

"We've met an elven scout before - her name was Shalelu, I believe? If she's nearby, she may agree to help us protect Sandpoint and its people.

I'd been searching my brain to remember her name! But I was too lazy to look it up, lol.

"Yes, Shalelu is quite able. If we could find her, I am sure she could give us a great deal of help."

The man stands back and listens to you guys discuss back and forth before clearing his threat. "Um...excuse me...but I know where the giant army is. They're about 5 days out now...sadly I know how many they had with them as well...you see my village was destroyed by a hord of giants. I believe they might be the ones you are looking for. They also had a red dragon with them. I came here asking for assistance for my village...well whats left of it. I am afraid that my only be me..." his words trail off and he starts to sob.

"A red dragon eh? How big was this dragon? I don't supposed you noticed what sorts of giants they was, or how many?"

Knowledge(arcane): 1d20 + 15 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 15 + 4 = 28

Looking at his companions, Skarn stated, "fire, it's fire we need to be prepared for. Do we go out and meet them in the field, or do we wait for them to come here?"

"Could we do both? I have a teleport spell that I could use to get us back here in a hurry. We could move to encounter them and then pop back here to rest before they make it this far."

Welcome Wern, Zahir, Kresham, and Albion! Lets get the discussion started. We have a lot to discuss so to get things started I will pose the following questions to the group and you guys can come to a consensus on them:

1) What events have solidified you guys as an unbreakable team? Or has no such event happened(working together because it "works" for now but if something better comes along so be it)?

2) Who would have been the target of Alderns advances and how would the party have reacted/intervened? I see the events of book 2 to be a great opportunity for the party to have bonded together(depending on the answer to question one that is).

3) Any other events that have happened that have bonded the party together beyond what happened in the first 3 books? Relationships with each other, intimate moments, family crisis, ect.

4)Are you all pretty familiar with the AP or do you need me to post up summaries of all 3 books as to what major events have happened?

Any questions for me can be posted here. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE try to get along with your fellow players. Another group I am running this for got into a rather nasty fight and it ruined the game for me(almost quit running them). This is meant to be a time where you guys can cooperate on your shared backgrounds since you guys have been saving the world together for the last 7 months or so.

Zahir here!

Need to nail down my spells, gear and feats. Well, teamwork feats anyways.

I'm not sure about our history, and unsure of what the other 3 characters are.

By this level we should be a nice cohesive group, right, so how did we get here?

Thats the main question now isn't it. Wern is a Evoker wizard, Kresham is an arcane archer, and Albion is a slayer.

So, I'm guessing I should have some healing spells then!

Thats a safe bet lol

I look forward to hearing from the others. For Albion, you interested in any teamwork feats that I could match you with?

I'll post some stuff that I think might have been our regular tactics. Definitely want to hear what spells Wern has, and Kresham's tactics as well.

I'm guessing I have a decent idea of Albion's tactics, haha.

Let me guess...stab it then stab it again and then if its still moving stab it again and because I can stab it again.

Wow, thanks for taking me on board DM Mathpro - I was still stumbling around with my concept. That was fast!

Teamwork feats sound solid Skarn - did you have anything in mind? :D

I'll have a base crunch up soon, so you have an idea where I am going with my character.

But I was thinking, you will be our only source of Divine Magic? We may have a problem there?

EDIT: We are needing some front line beef, scouting and perhaps an added divine sprinkle?

You were going to be the front line beef lol.

If you want to be martial, but help the divine side, maybe Warpriest?

The warpriest bonus feats help a lot.

I dunno on Teamwork feats, never had the opportunity it's really, so I've always counted on Solo Tactics from Inquisitor to use them.

I'm definitely planning on using a 2H weapon, so ones like Shield Wall won't help.

Let me look at them and see what pops out.

We could make a strong front line you and me! I could share the healing judgement with you in most fights, give you fast healing, plus a warpriest can swift action heal himself, if you went that way.

Do whatever, we'll make it work! The AP is designed for 4 PCs.

Hehe, I'm ok with being the frontline beef - what if I turned the table around and went Paladin? :O

Paladin is an excellent class for this AP! If you're heading that direction, can I point you towards the Oradin? I've played mine up to 8th level in Iron Gods and it's quite impressive. Being 11th you'd want to be Paladin 7/Oracle 4.

Check out my "Chakos" alias to see what he looks like at 8th, maybe check out the game he is in to watch his healing happening inside of fights.

Half Elf works best, because you get both classes as favored, at 9th, and you'd be able to have it by 11th the Ultimate Mercy feat is amazing, for death situations, hahaha.

4 levels of Life Oracle only loses one point of BAB, and gives you 2nd level spells, loads of channeling and 4 Life Links.

However, all Paladin is also quite excellent of a choice.

In the end, pick what seems fun, but the Oradin kicks plenty of butt, and is awesome with the heals.

Paladin would be fine if you wanted to change things up. Was kind of looking forward to seeing what slayer could do at this level but you guys could use a little more beef up front and a little more divine guidance.

Hey Skarn how would you feel about picking up a repeating crossbow at some point? Not to spoil it but the Inquisitor in Pirates Promise has one and uses it...rather well...

Yep, I am quite familiar with the Oradin, and simply love it.

So much so I am already playing one - though it seems it might fit us very well, adding some more divine tidbits to the mix :D

I may come up with something more devious though - give me some time to mull it over. Slayer is obviously on the plate, since I can't live without skills :D

Hey there, it's great to be a part of this group!
Now it's time to confess that I have never actually played a high-level caster, so I have very vague idea of what my tactics should be :)
Looking at the advice for the arcane archers on this board, it seems that one is played basically like a blaster wizard, focusing on delivering AoE spells from weird angles and starting points via his arrows. However, because I lose out on a few caster levels, my DCs are going to be mediocre.
That said, I have trapfinding, decent knowledge skills all around, and can potentially use spells to help with scouting (like invisibility), so I should get you covered on that front!
As for the teamwork feats, I could see something like Friendly Fire Maneuvers getting some use!

Arcane Archer and Oradin are both builds that can be painful to play up through, but once you get it rolling, they kind of rock!

I'm looking forward to seeing what the AA can do, and whatever Albion chooses.

Hey Skarn how would you feel about picking up a repeating crossbow at some point? Not to spoil it but the Inquisitor in Pirates Promise has one and uses it...rather well...

With 30 seconds in Hero Lab, I could have a repeating Light Crossbow. The proficiency is the same, so no problem there.

None of the Teamwork feats are amazing, but check out Big Game Hunter. It gives +1/+2 against foes bigger than you. I mean, most high CR monsters are large, so it seems a no brainier for a melee character at higher levels. The equivalent of Weapon Focus and Specialization.

I am having second thoughts about the dungeon rover archetype - maybe I should discard it if we will spend more time in open terrain against animals than in dungeons against vermin? It seemed like a cool idea initially but then I thought at this level we probably won't see much vermin (unless Leng spiders count :) )

High CR vermin are pretty rare I think.

I'd expect most things we face from here in will be big baddies of the Outsider, Monstrous Humanoid, Undead, Humanoid, Dragon and a couple other types.

I've played this AP up to we died in this module. By now, we know that Giants, and Dragons are on the bad guys list.

And fear not, I won't let my knowledge of the first couple encounters be used. Once we're past those, I'm clueless as to what comes next.

DM Mathpro wrote:

Hey Skarn how would you feel about picking up a repeating crossbow at some point? Not to spoil it but the Inquisitor in Pirates Promise has one and uses it...rather well...

With 30 seconds in Hero Lab, I could have a repeating Light Crossbow. The proficiency is the same, so no problem there.

None of the Teamwork feats are amazing, but check out Big Game Hunter. It gives +1/+2 against foes bigger than you. I mean, most high CR monsters are large, so it seems a no brainier for a melee character at higher levels. The equivalent of Weapon Focus and Specialization.

Not to spoil things but if this goes as far is it can you guys will be fighting Large, Huge, and Gargantuan creatures. Including 3-4 of these at a time.

Skarn Hornfels wrote:

DM Mathpro wrote:

Hey Skarn how would you feel about picking up a repeating crossbow at some point? Not to spoil it but the Inquisitor in Pirates Promise has one and uses it...rather well...

With 30 seconds in Hero Lab, I could have a repeating Light Crossbow. The proficiency is the same, so no problem there.

None of the Teamwork feats are amazing, but check out Big Game Hunter. It gives +1/+2 against foes bigger than you. I mean, most high CR monsters are large, so it seems a no brainier for a melee character at higher levels. The equivalent of Weapon Focus and Specialization.

Not to spoil things but if this goes as far is it can you guys will be fighting Large, Huge, and Gargantuan creatures. Including 3-4 of these at a time.

I get a +4 to AC against Giants!

So here are VERY brief descriptions of the events from each book. Once I get more ambition I will list out all notable NPC's you guys have interacted with, more information on the towns you have been to, and a list of all villins you guys have come across because some may still be alive depending on if you fell any are worth saving/redeeming.

Hey! How did we do against the big black critter that attacked Turtleback Ferry? Black Maga?

So the operative part of this is we're rushing to save Sandpoint from Giants and a Dragon, yes?

Yes

"I'm happy to be responsible for handling Giants. I am NOT responsible for handling dragons!"

Hey guys, sorry. Busy day today.

In book two, I think Wren should probably have been the object of Aldern's crush.

I'll read your summary of book three to see exactly what happened in that one.

I'd think we could just say we met at the festival in book one. Wren isn't from town, so she would t have been here before then. Since then, she could have helped in town as a sort of deputy, librarian, and general jack of all trades.

We'll all have busy days before we're done. I promise to be understanding of yours, if you're understanding of mine.

Albion, you the face? If you go Paladin, it's a natural fit. If you don't want to worry about languages, I can hit you with tongues, or I can pick a different spell in that slot.

I do intend to Intimidate regularly.

Guys, just to let you know I find that Slayer may overlap too much with Kresham Gull as far as skills go, so I've pulled up this guy, but I'm not sure if he is beef enough for first line, and if he will dish enough damage to be focused on - here's what he looks like with Divine Favor, Shield and Magic Vestment (cast in the morning) running. Combat Expertise can push his AC to 32, and he is packing some real divine power.

What do you think?

The "usual" tactics:

Hey! How did we do against the big black critter that attacked Turtleback Ferry? Black Maga?

You guys were able to save the town but you didn't defeat Black Maga, it just retreated.

Guys, just to let you know I find that Slayer may overlap too much with Kresham Gull as far as skills go, so I've pulled up this guy, but I'm not sure if he is beef enough for first line, and if he will dish enough damage to be focused on - here's what he looks like with Divine Favor, Shield and Magic Vestment (cast in the morning) running. Combat Expertise can push his AC to 32, and he is packing some real divine power.

** spoiler omitted **...

Looks good to me and I've never run with a Shaman before.

I'm in the same boat as the DM. I've never ran a shaman before. The boards say they are pretty powerful, but from personal knowledge, I have no idea.

I don't know all that much about the Shaman. Is it intended to be a front liner?

Its a cross between an Oracle and a Witch so I see it more as a caster but the Oracle could grant it some front line power.

The combat stats presented above make it appear to be perfectly capable of frontlining. +16 to hit, and a 29 AC, with 99 hit points.

I think my biggest issue with it is just that the idea of sharing the front line with an orc is a bit distasteful. Of course, we'd have worked those issues out long ago and be Gimli and Legolas by now!

He's a half orc Skarn, get it right lol.

"Here now, don't you be questioning me on my racist tendencies towards orcs! You either is a orc, or you isn't a orc, and there's nothing in between."

-puts arm around Karn- you see when a young orc loves a human very much...

The shaman build looks a little MAD to me, plus I would say that the spirit animal could be a weak spot for a frontliner. You could possibly look at the 'speaker for the past' archetype?

The shaman build looks a little MAD to me

But he cleverly pulls it off by putting 14's in everything but Dex, and then using two dual stat items for four of them, and then putting his orc bonus and his two level bonuses all into STR.

Starting at 11th allows a lot of flexibility, that might have been painful to play up through.

I'd love to see a shaman in action, so by all means, go ahead with it. I mean, what's the worst that could happen!!

I mean, what's the worst that could happen!!

Yeah!

I notice that Garosh, at least in his draft form, has Craft Wondrous Item. Can we assume that over the course of our adventures that the wondrous items we have were created using that feat?

The only other crafting feat I see is Scribe Scroll on Kresham. But those would be wizard spells, so of no use to me, but Wren could use them!

I will say that having two blastery wizards seems both good and bad. We will see how it goes.

As a wise wizard once said, "what's the worst that could happen!!"

Having looked more closely at the party makeup, two wizardry types, perhaps our "usual" tactic is a bit unusual. Perhaps we pair up? Me and Garrosh each with one of the Wizards (except when a strong front line is needed).

Perhaps we have several battle plans:

Alpha - melee up front and wizards to the rear
Bravo - melee and wizards form pairs one way
Charlie - melee and wizards pair up the other way
Delta - scatter
Echo - RUN!!!

Well, naturally we could give them better names, hahaha. I'm just brainstorming.

Are you all familiar with the "200 RPG Rules to Live By?" You can find them in my Zahir alias. I will reference them in Discussion from time to time,

I will call your attention to rule 50 (and 87, apparently it was important enough to get listed twice).. Any suggestions? Obviously not Giant or Common. Early on, I think we'd have picked, and thus not Goblin.

let's see, some background, we really came together as a cohesive unit when we assaulted Thistletop! And then again, when we assaulted Fort Rannick. It turns out cadtle assaults are a strength of ours, and we're not so good with murder mysteries.

I'm just thinking out loud about how we got to here.

Hey! Who saved the strange fey chick and got her boon? What other cool loot? The snakeskin tunic? The amulet? The petrify mask?

It was awesome watching Garrosh go toe to toe with Jaagreth Kreeg!

If desired, I can recount a bit of how my gaming group did these things, but using these character names here, so we have some common history?

As a wizard, I've got Scribe Scroll as a known feat as well. I plan on using some of my remaining gold to scribe a few.

Thanks for the input guys - if I was going for a full frontliner, I would have built a Bloodrager - now THAT would be a frontliner :D

But since we seem to be needing added Divine power, I was shifting towards that direction - hesitated between Cleric, Oracle (Elven Ancient Lorekeeper for some picks on Arcane spells) or Shaman.