Welcome to Nuveril's world. Just sit back and watch Grall tear everything to pieces while you try to keep up. ;)
Okay, totally confused then as to who's where. I thought the chain-shirt gnolls were the ones in the hall with Khalid.
Nuveril was better off moving anyway if Sajan was going to grapple the only target and wait for permission (from spellcasters, again!) to keep it alive. At least she might have a chance to do something in the other corridor if Linah's spiritual weapon doesn't do the job first.
(So far) you've seen 6 gnolls. 4 in the southern corridor (Grall killed 3, Sajan has the last grabbed). 2 in the western corridor (Khalid killed 1 and the bowman). All are indicated on the map.
Miss chance definately applies to grapple. For fighting defensively with a grapple, I've always assumed you could provided you take the -4 to hit but not really looked at it.
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Ah I see the issue.
Fighting defensively is an untyped bonus to AC while CMD rules provide that a circumstance, deflection, dodge, insight, luck, morale, profane, and sacred bonus to AC applies to CMD.
Will dig a bit further. Won't be relevant unless and until the gnoll tries to break out and rolls sufficiently for it to matter.
Stupid rules.
Its an untyped bonus in the combat section but others refer to dodge: see acrobatics skill.
AOO's go off whatever your attack and defence was in the round you just had. I doubt you can change those modifiers unless the ability you want to use can be initiated as an immediate action.
Its definitely a dodge bonus and thus should apply to CMD.
When I said it should work like power attack (Reckless Abandon) i'm in full agreement that it needs to be a toggle for the entire round, can't be started on an AOO.
The fact that Khalid and Linah are spellcasters is coincidence- Sajan sees them as the leaders and a lot of this is rooted in his belief that humans are the closest race to enlightenment; the result of many good reincarnations leading good lives.
Species-ist. ;P
I can see how he thinks gnolls and halflings are less "evolved," but where do elves fit in his grand scheme? They're generally regarded as a step up from humanity, aren't they? With the preternatural grace and beauty and the long life span?
Hes pretty much been a benevolent species-ist the whole game. Hes trying to help Grall in particular who he sees as a particularly low form of life. Nuveril isn't such a priority, shes not far from human; and Sajan generally struggles to understand her motivations and aspirations (low intelligence) while nevertheless knowing on some level how she ticks (his earlier manipulation of her, high wisdom).
He doesn't really think about Zeladiel that much. Hes not sure where elves fit into the hierarchy. Probably a step or two above a Gnoll.
Grall's a lot closer to LN enlightenment than Nuveril is. Less chaotic and more pliable. :)
You think his style of combat is LN??? :)
I just ripped out the thoat of one....and that was just because my throat was dry...lol's
Not when he's raging, no. But Nuveril's a psychotic, barely-contained ball of violence even when she's not raging. Whereas Grall's quite docile out of combat. :)
He doesn't really think about Zeladiel that much. Hes not sure where elves fit into the hierarchy. Probably a step or two above a Gnoll.
Ow, harsh!
You're just jealous I had preternatural grace and beauty before your parents were born. :-PThough I guess the long life span can't come into it too much, unless those who believe in reincarnation are prepared to put turtles and trees above those verminous humans. :-)
I suppose if one is taking a pseudo-Hindu perspective, a long life span would be a sign of clinging too closely to the material world, if the ultimate goal is to lose one's individual personhood entirely and melt into oneness with the cosmos. Physical death is to be embraced, not avoided.
I assume you heard about Orlando Bloom, during the filming of the trilogy, when the other actors teased him about Legolas always being the pretty-boy with perfect hair while everyone else was getting all grimy and filthy, how he told them they were just jealous because he was going to live forever? :)
Not when he's raging, no. But Nuveril's a psychotic, barely-contained ball of violence even when she's not raging. Whereas Grall's quite docile out of combat. :)
Yeah you have pretty much nailed my split personality approach :) we will see if he starts to decend into darkness again as the AP continues....
I never thought about Gruhaastha style enlightenment as a matter of being LN interestingly enough, more of a matter of being good. Sajan himself is prepared to take measures he wouldn't necessarily approve of in others in order to ensure other's enlightenment, hence his concept as neutral. I wondered if the campaign would turn him Good eventually, but i don't feel it has done thus far.
As a Four Winds monk, it would be interesting to see how his reincarnations would affect his beliefs at 20th level.
Not a lot of info on Gruhastha, on the Wiki anyway, not even an alignment, but since he's an advisor to Irori, I would have assumed him to be True Neutral. How could being Good come into it, unless Irori himself hasn't attained true enlightenment? Irori's thing (and, by extension, I assume Gruhastha's, as well) seems to be self-discipline, with no element of morality involved. I think the very concept of good and evil may be something Irori's followers are supposed to transcend as one of the trappings of mortality. After all, Irori grants powers to Evil clerics as long as they're Lawful.
I'm playing off Sajan when it comes to Gruhastha. I eagerly await the resolution of your meta-physical discussion.
See I crit everybody. Totally fair.
That aside Nuveril moving forward proved to be a good plan.
Seems very odd that Large creatures can't just step right over her, but that's mechanics for you. Guess it takes a Trample or an Overrun (and a standard action). A tiny little Horatio guarding the bridge. :)
Yep. Sometimes they work against you, sometimes for.
Targetting preference and temprament also played a part.
Gnoll mutant beast sees tasty little morsel...so tender...so succulent...
With all due respect, how many of us are prepared to just step over a rabid dog or cat? It may not be the smartest critter, but it can see Nuveril holds cold steel and knows how to use it. And she'd be a bitter pill to swallow. :-)
And :-) on the Orlando Bloom story.
The only episode of Extras I ever watched guest-starred Orlando as himself and it was pretty funny. He portrayed himself as very smooth and arrogant.
Hey, he's an elf. That's only a step or two above gnoll, and no one expects them to be smart. ;)
Are you talking about this one?
Held fast in Sajan's grip, the gnoll can do little but try and throw its shield in the way of Grall's sword. Its desperate attempt is unsuccesful though, the falchion crashing into its side and ripping through its armour. Grall follows up with another bite, this time to its shoulder.
If so, Dan was fixing a typo where he wrote armour instead of shoulder.
Will just sort Grall's action before we continue. With Nuveril, Khalid and Grall wounded I was thinking Linah would spend a channel which will need a move into position (leaving the scimitar to slash at the nearly dead, stuck under several hundred pounds of mutant, gnoll).
You think his style of combat is LN??? :)
I just ripped out the thoat of one....and that was just because my throat was dry...lol's
Going back to this I've realised that I describe Grall as biting the throats out of things a lot. I know I need to branch out but I can't think of too many other ways to describe biting finishing moves.
Zeladiel's comment above was inspiration for the description of the beast missing Nuveril. Was expecting some substantial damage there but a major whiff.
Biting throats out is appropriate, but I suppose you could have him eviscerate things with his bite and have hunks of internal organ hanging out of his mouth...much like your avatar...
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At least you won't come back as an elf!
Biting throats out is appropriate, but I suppose you could have him eviscerate things with his bite and have hunks of internal organ hanging out of his mouth...much like your avatar...
Thats totally reserved for the creature this avatar represents. He's around here somewhere....
Biting throats out is appropriate, but I suppose you could have him eviscerate things with his bite and have hunks of internal organ hanging out of his mouth...much like your avatar...Thats totally reserved for the creature this avatar represents. He's around here somewhere....
I am painfully aware that your avatar is the Carrion King, so I would hope he's around here someplace. :)
Ah, so that's with the avatar. I figured it was just a gnoll thing cause there were lotsa gnolls. When I GM something on here, I figured I'd go for the Dragons or another huge bad. I hadn't realised Daniel was using "the" current big bad.
Does this mean Dan will be changing his avatar once we complete this module? :-)
Yep I figure I will change it periodically to reflect your progress. This one will stay til you beat the big guy or he beats you :)
Others might be a little less blatant than this one.
Succumbing to the lure of running something I see...
Nuveril shouldn't have the reach to make an attack on the second gnoll-beast with only a 5-foot step; the first one took up a 10-foot square. She's just planning on 5-foot stepping this round after her attack and next round before her attack to avoid the AoO.
Ah, so that's with the avatar. I figured it was just a gnoll thing cause there were lotsa gnolls. When I GM something on here, I figured I'd go for the Dragons or another huge bad. I hadn't realised Daniel was using "the" current big bad.
Out of curiousity, what is it you plan to run?
Out of curiousity, what is it you plan to run?
How did that happen?!!
_If_ I run it won't be for at least a month.
(BTW- I'll be posting little/none from the 26th-29th as I'll be at Arcanacon in Melbourne for the Oz day weekend. I'll also be in Tassie from Feb 9th-19th for a wedding and some camper vanning.)
My Kingmaker campaign died when 2 players piked, so I could run that online, but I'd rather restart it with the remaining players IRL.
I will be running Skull and Shackles when it comes out, again IRL, but I suppose I could run concurrently on the forums too.
I've been wanting to play in Carrion Crown, so my beloved wife, Kylie, bought me the first two modules for Christmas. Then she told me I couldn't read them because she's also gonna run our group through it! Ouch. :-)
I am under no delusions about the commitment required to run something on these forums, and am eternally grateful to Daniel for the hard yards he's putting in. That said, credit also goes to this core of awesome and dedicated players here, which is what I'd want for any game I ran but would necessitate I be even more committed.
So, now that I've written this and thought about it-
probably Skull and Shackles.
You guys would all get first dibs as PCs, of course, but I have enough trouble keeping up with one game, let alone multiples.
And I don't have to make any decisions or commitments until it comes out. :-)
Wasn't trying to put you on the spot but apparently succeeded...sorry about that.
I think you will find that a great number of players on this board are very understanding of the fact that we all have lives outside of these games. (Lord knows I am very grateful for the uber-patient players that have had to put up with me in my Council of Thieves game.)
Truly dedicated gamemasters, like Dan and Alex (who happen to be both dedicated and damn good), that maintain a multiple post per day rate are a rarity (How in the hell Alex manages it running multiple games is beyond me.)
That being said, if you do decide to run, I'm definitely interested. Again, sorry if it sounded like I was putting you on the spot.
My own fault. I did hint that I'd been thinking about it. Put stuff like that on the Internet and you get what you deserve :-)
Still, there is a vast gulf between my ability to think about something and actually do it. When I win the lottery I'll give up work and I'll run or play a game every day. :-)
Until then I'll have to live with my (poor) time management skills. I'll continue this conversation when Skull and Shackles comes out. :-)
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(How in the hell Alex manages it running multiple games is beyond me.)
Sadly my post rate has declined somewhat, as balancing a job as well means my time is more limited than it was at university.
If you do recruit from this group they are all a great bunch. This group is basically made up of the pbp junkies of the paizo forums :).
Just when she's getting into her groove, you guys are going to block her out from melee? Glory hogs. Doesn't Sajan have enough kills to his credit?
AK's going to burn himself out between the games he's DMing, the ones he's playing in, and lack of sleep. :P I've been tempted to start a game for more than a year but have been hindered by the fact that I don't know how to make maps, and now all my favorite posters have full PbP dance cards and no room for another game. :(
:( aww. Maptools is pretty easy to get started with :), just need to do a couple of massive downloads and spend an hour or two on tutorials.
I left Nuveril a spot in BX,216 :).
:( aww. Maptools is pretty easy to get started with :), just need to do a couple of massive downloads and spend an hour or two on tutorials.
I've actually tried to deal with Maptools a couple of times. Was never even able to get started, literally. Couldn't even figure out how to open up a rudimentary map to tinker with. I'm not very good with tutorials; I miss the days when software came with a big 300-page manual you could flip through.
I left Nuveril a spot in BX,216 :).
Khalid's going to take that spot on his init. Don't worry; she'll be sure to express her displeasure at being shoved out of the fray. :)
I did almost write 'Sajan braces himself for the tirade of Nuveril' in my original post :).
Nuveril's based on a character I played in 3.5. In her first combat, she actually did physically attack a party member for killing the goblins she was fighting right out from under her. I think even flat-footed for not expecting an attack, Sajan's AC would be too high for her, though. ;)
Well I meant mentally bracing for some shouting, but Sajan's flat-footed AC is rather low at the moment, only 20.
If Nuveril attacks him he can always grapple her, tie her up and put her in a sack. He'll likely take some damage doing it but would be worth it :).
Edit: Although I was surprised at how high Nuveril's CMD is. The initial challenge of grappling her relies on a 10 from Sajan, but once shes grappled she can only escape on a natural 20.
This stuff is good to know if she gets dominate personed.
Be happy to try to oblige, assuming Grall doesn't shred it before she gets a chance. :)
Be happy to try to oblige, assuming Grall doesn't shred it before she gets a chance. :)
Sorry, we will see if its still standing after another 40 points....
It's really hardly sporting attacking it when it's squeezing, especially when its AC is so low in the first place. ;)
Especially when it can't even hit Grall's mighty AC 14. However I'd take it, its going to be a long day I suspect :)
Your just soft on those with low AC.