DM Alexander Kilcoyne's Kingmaker PBP- Chapter 3

Game Master Alexander Kilcoyne

Here he is for inspection. His equipment equals 6,000 gold pieces, not counting what he gets from Yelena. She will contribute the following equipment to Ilya:

bracers of armor +1, amulet of natural armor +1, wand of burning hands (CL2, 9 charges), spellbook (identify, mage armor, reduce person, silent image, and unseen servant)

Potions - resistance (3), cure light wounds (5), enlarge person (3), jump (3), mage armor (3).

Hmmm... Think we misunderstood each other at some point. If he was going to have Yelena's equipment I didn't want him having wealth by level you see (as Yelena's share of the booty was going to go to your new character anyway). Two options-

1. Kit yourself out with four thousand gold pieces, equipment all of your choice. Take Yelena's share of treasure once its dished out (but not the equipment she has on her).

2. Take Yelena's equipment, start with just her equipment plus 100GP of gear and your spellbook (and all free spells you gain from levelling. You can have Yelena's spells known that a Wizard can cast). Take Yelena's share of treasure once its dished out.

Looking over the character at first glance everything seems to add up. Few things I should note-

1. Dealmaker trait doesn't really work with Kingmaker, please revise (equipment buying is done from a cities base value mostly.)

2. HP is 4d8+8 not 4d6+10, but yup 24 is correct.

3. You really don't like dumping stats down eh ;). Stats all add up though.

4. Doubt it will come up, but familiar has half of your HP.

I would add one comment, not having anyone in the party with craft feats is really going to hurt since we can't buy equipment from a large city...Malthir will be contributing at 5th with Master Craftsmen...but that only helps the armored characters...

Going out to dinner with the family. Will fix everything this evening.

I would add one comment, not having anyone in the party with craft feats is really going to hurt since we can't buy equipment from a large city...Malthir will be contributing at 5th with Master Craftsmen...but that only helps the armored characters...

Remember- you can develop a citys economy pretty quickly. Just focus on buildings that increase 'base value'- this is the number your worrying about when buying and selling in a city in your kingdom.

Tanner- Have a nice meal buddy. Liked the introduction post.

I would add one comment, not having anyone in the party with craft feats is really going to hurt since we can't buy equipment from a large city...Malthir will be contributing at 5th with Master Craftsmen...but that only helps the armored characters...

I'm planning to take Craft Wondrous Item next level.

4d6+8 sorry, not 4d8+8...

What if Ilya gets his standard wealth for his level, none of the equipment from Yelena except Tartuk's spellbook, and the Guardians keeps the potions of cure light wounds?

1. Dealmaker trait doesn't really work with Kingmaker, please revise (equipment buying is done from a cities base value mostly.)

Fixed. Changed to Patient Optimist.

2. HP is 4d8+8 not 4d6+10, but yup 24 is correct.

Four levels of wizard give him 4d6. A 12 Constitution gives him +1 hp per level, and the Toughness feat gives him +3 at first level and +1 ever level thereafter.

1: 1d6+4
2: 2d6+6
3: 3d6+8
4: 4d6+10

I don't see some people rolling for hp. Do we have a fixed system in place? Or am I supposed to be rolling?

3. You really don't like dumping stats down eh ;). Stats all add up though.

In my personal experience, a dump stat is basically painting a target on your chest for inventive DMs. :)

4. Doubt it will come up, but familiar has half of your HP.

Fixed.

HP is PFS style average- 4 for a Wizard on every level after first. Off for the night, but please lets get the ball rolling for leadership positions ;).

Four levels of wizard give him 4d6. A 12 Constitution gives him +1 hp per level, and the Toughness feat gives him +3 at first level and +1 ever level thereafter.

1: 1d6+4
2: 2d6+6
3: 3d6+8
4: 4d6+10

I don't see some people rolling for hp. Do we have a fixed system in place? Or am I supposed to be rolling?

Not quite right.

The Toughness feat reads: "You gain +3 hit points. For every Hit Die you possess beyond 3, you gain an additional +1 hit point. If you have more than 3 Hit Dice, you gain +1 hit points whenever you gain a Hit Die (such as when you gain a level)."

So you only have 4d6+8 hp, sorry :)

So you only have 4d6+8 hp, sorry :)

You are correct, good sir.

Kalev Lehola wrote:

So you only have 4d6+8 hp, sorry :)

You are correct, good sir.

They should have kept it like Beta, 3+1 per lvl, toughness was definitely worth taking in Beta...

Ilya Shukhov wrote:

Kalev Lehola wrote:

So you only have 4d6+8 hp, sorry :)

You are correct, good sir.

They should have kept it like Beta, 3+1 per lvl, toughness was definitely worth taking in Beta...

I still think it is :).

What if Ilya gets his standard wealth for his level, none of the equipment from Yelena except Tartuk's spellbook, and the Guardians keeps the potions of cure light wounds?

Sorry only just spotted this.

Because of the large haul of cash from the Stag Lord's Fort etc, as well as the difficulty of poor Malthir to distribute loot with one spare share (as well as the extra gold to the others increasing their WBL too much)... I'd require you to outfit Ilya in one of the two methods I detailed above. The coinage alone from the Stag Lord's Fort should be about 2,000 gold pieces when its dished out.

I haste to add, i'm a fair DM, i'm not here to screw you over. But allowing you WBL in addition to the treasure share, or WBL minus treasure share, allows you the luxury of choice with equipment that the other characters haven't had.

I'll go with option 1:

1. Kit yourself out with four thousand gold pieces, equipment all of your choice. Take Yelena's share of treasure once its dished out (but not the equipment she has on her).

Kk thanks :).

Just FYI, Alex and I agreed to change my trait, so the True Strike now takes a standard action to activate, not a swift.

Peanut throwers/eaters rejoice!

Also-

Malthir's Custom Trait (revised)-

Inner Purity- Through diligence, prayer and practice you have learnt to channel your lay on hands ability through your own body without needing a hand free- and you heal one additional point of HP damage per three Paladin levels whenever you use lay on hands. Once per week you can use Channel Smite as the feat (by spending two lay on hands to channel as always).

No peanut throwing by me! Only eating! :)

One question... what happens if Malthir decides to take this feat later?

Cheers

No peanut throwing by me! Only eating! :)

One question... what happens if Malthir decides to take this feat later?

Cheers

I'll work on that if it happens ;). I would not recommend it though, much as I wouldn't recommend Favoured Enemy: Undead for the AP. It will certainly have its moment or two to shine though...

I wouldn't worry about it, a lot of my feats will be geared towards RP to be honest...definitely won't be the optimized Pali....if there is one

5th - Master Craftsmen, yes I will have the best armor that can be had, as will the party...
7th - Leadership, I know, you don't allow the sidekick...cohort...still having all of the followers should help to put together a good elite army unit! Maybe u will give an extra bonus to something else since I lose a pretty powerful follower...
9th, who knows, depends upon what we ecounter in # 3&4, really don't have my heart set on anything, but will not be channeled smite... :)

Your not losing your cohort- you just can't take him adventuring ;). You should still be make use of him or her in the background- and a spare NPC for a ruler slot is not a bad idea- I almost rolled Assassination once already!

I wouldn't worry about it, a lot of my feats will be geared towards RP to be honest...definitely won't be the optimized Pali....if there is one

5th - Master Craftsmen, yes I will have the best armor that can be had, as will the party...
7th - Leadership, I know, you don't allow the sidekick...cohort...still having all of the followers should help to put together a good elite army unit! Maybe u will give an extra bonus to something else since I lose a pretty powerful follower...
9th, who knows, depends upon what we ecounter in # 3&4, really don't have my heart set on anything, but will not be channeled smite... :)

If I am reading the Master Craftsman feat correctly, then Mal will have to take the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat after taking Master Craftsman in order to actually enchant our armor. In that case, we will have to wait until level 9 to get custom magic armor.

Malthir Al Dagon wrote:

5th - Master Craftsmen, yes I will have the best armor that can be had, as will the party...

7th - Leadership, I know, you don't allow the sidekick...cohort...still having all of the followers should help to put together a good elite army unit! Maybe u will give an extra bonus to something else since I lose a pretty powerful follower...

If I am reading the Master Craftsman feat correctly, then Mal will have to take the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat after taking Master Craftsman in order to actually enchant our armor. In that case, we will have to wait until level 9 to get custom magic armor.

On the other hand, if you took Leadership at 5th, would DM_AK be willing for your cohort to take craft arms and armour when they reach 5th level? Or did you already have someone in mind?

Except that you can't take Leadership before 7th level.

Cas is right, master craftsmen just gives you access to the craft magic arms and armor feat, so I will most likely NOT be taking it. Burning 2 feats will just be too much for me when I am already kind of planning to burn one with leadership...

I could switch out Craft Wondrous for Craft Arms and Armour if you think it'll be more useful.

I could switch out Craft Wondrous for Craft Arms and Armour if you think it'll be more useful.

Maybe if we can talk Ilya into taking wondrous item at 5th... :)

Hmm... Ilya was planning on taking Augment Summoning at 5th level...

My general feeling is that Craft Wondrous will be more useful in the long run - us warrior types will just have to make due with what we can find/buy/get some NPC to enchant.

I'll noodle around with it. ;)

I'll noodle around with it. ;)

Remember you get 2 feats correct at 5th? Regular and a bonus wizard so you could do both Augment and a craft...

My comment was directed at Fenna, actually. I feel each character should feel free to take the feats they wish.

*un-lurks*
Hey guys. I'm officially lurking in your game since last friday. Been lurking in your kingdom building interlude. Great stuff btw, don't think I've ever seen such a fast paced pbp.
But I was wondering if there's any chance of seeing the maps you guys are talking about? I see the city map as Ilya post a link with every update but I can't find the world map anywhere. Do you have it online?
*re-lurks*

*un-lurks*

Hey guys. I'm officially lurking in your game since last friday. Been lurking in your kingdom building interlude. Great stuff btw, don't think I've ever seen such a fast paced pbp.
But I was wondering if there's any chance of seeing the maps you guys are talking about? I see the city map as Ilya post a link with every update but I can't find the world map anywhere. Do you have it online?
*re-lurks*

We have a group site which certain files are uploaded to. Give me an e-mail address and i'll give you read only permissions to the group site so you can see.

Wait... Where did he go? He just vanished!

*jumps from shadows and throws somthing to AK*

*jumps from shadows and throws somthing to AK*

** spoiler omitted **
*grinnig jumps back*

E-mail should go to that address.

Well since you are offering... me too please!

Thanks AK!

Well since you are offering... me too please!

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Thanks AK!

Done.

Thanks AK, site looks great!

Thanks AK, site looks great!

+1

Always a pleasure to entertain. You can read the Cliff Notes version of our adventurers in the Alamanc of the Greenbelt section on the website, but in case you have the stamina to read through all 2.733 posts, the Chapter One thread can be found: HERE

Always a pleasure to entertain. You can read the Cliff Notes version of our adventurers in the Alamanc of the Greenbelt section on the website, but in case you have the stamina to read through all 2.733 posts, the Chapter One thread can be found: HERE

I'm up to date! ;) Even with the the torrid pace of your postings!

I'm reading through it now actually :)

We have a group site which certain files are uploaded to. Give me an e-mail address and i'll give you read only permissions to the group site so you can see.

May I be added to the list, please?

Thanks!

Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:

We have a group site which certain files are uploaded to. Give me an e-mail address and i'll give you read only permissions to the group site so you can see.

May I be added to the list, please?

** spoiler omitted **

Thanks!

Done :)

You can officially blame my slowdown at work for my posting craziness. Things are picking back up again so I think you will see a slowdown from my 10+ posts per day...lol's

Hey guys. I'm officially lurking (...) Great stuff btw,(...)chance of seeing the maps?

Petition to join lurking party:

I confess to have observed you for quite some time, and that I am intrigued by both your progress and your social interactions.
I hereby ask to join the official lurkers and be permitted inside your borders.
I have decent stealth skills and promise to keep observing quitely, from a distance or via scrying, not commenting on anything unless asked.
I further swear not to sell intelligence to other countries or factions or in other ways abuse the information gained.

You don't need to stay quiet or hide you know... This thread is 100% lurker friendly.

*Leaves cookies out for lurkers*

Oh, and e-mail added so you can view the group site if you wish.

*basks in the limelight to the sound of peanutmunching from the galleries*