DM Alexander Kilcoyne's Kingmaker PBP- Chapter 3

Game Master Alexander Kilcoyne

"The Maven of the Green came to me in a dream just over a week ago, and said that this place was ripe for settling..."

Agai Culchek, 4714 AR

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Casimir wrote:
*basks in the limelight to the sound of peanutmunching from the galleries*

*finds peanuts in the cookies, munches stealthily, then goes off to find a disguise for the Founding Festival*

AK, if we weren't hiding we wouldn't be lurkers.

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Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:

We have a group site which certain files are uploaded to. Give me an e-mail address and i'll give you read only permissions to the group site so you can see.

Please add my e-mail too.

Spoiler:

ejzylstra (@) townsend.com

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Done.


Male
AK wrote:

Pathfinder Lodge (60 BP; must be adjacent to 2 houses): A lodge that serves as the official headquarters of Pathfinders within the kingdom. Base Value +1000, 1 major item, Economy +3, Loyalty +2, Stability +3, Defence +2, Unrest -2; limit one per kingdom.

Special-

Paths Seldom Trod- In the event phase of each kingdom turn, with a successful loyalty check the Pathfinders will send a junior team to undertake a basic scouting of any unclaimed, unexplored hex within two hexes of the kingdom's current borders.

If the loyalty check is failed, the Pathfinders of the kingdom are too busy with other affairs to assist you. If you fail by 5 or more, the kingdom will be held accountable for the fate of the team, and should they perish (dependent on whats in the hex...), the kingdom must pay reparations to the Pathfinder society (4BP)

My 2cp.

The lodge is a humble thing in most areas, getting bigger as the nations get larger, maybee a building tree is apropriate? A 4sq Grand Lodge, a 2sq chapter house down to a 1sq mission outpost?

The item generation: Pathfinder luck is a fickle thing IMO. A percentage chance of item generation migh be apropriate, a higher chance of better items for larger buildings but IMO success is never guarenteed for pathfinders.

Paths Seldom Trod looks cool but the aid offered shouldn't be too easely obtained IMO. Maybee a +2/+5/+10 on the loyalty DC for more diffucult tasks or maybee a BP cost for services granted?

Pathfinder factions usually have their own agenda as per Pathfinder Society play, so RP wise it could offer opertunity for various kingdoms/realms to try to assert influence over the fledgling kingdom?

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I don't want to add too much complexity to it on a monthly basis, nor do I want too much extra admin so a percentage chance is another check for me to roll every kingdom turn.

Paths Seldom Trod SHOULD be balanced into the cost of the building itself, much like the arena's special ability to half promotion costs for festivals.

I think perhaps the lodge should be tired to the kingdom's size, advancing at the same rate as Malthir's title does (although the different size lodges had occured to me too)

For now, the lodge is a single square building, when he becomes a Duke (size+20) it can advance to a dual square building by paying a BP cost, and when he becomes a King (81+ size) it can advance to a grand four square lodge housing hundreds of servants.

I should clarify- the information provided by Paths Seldom Trod is dependent on the amount of success on the loyalty check... So rather than raising the DC the report they submit back is dependent on how much the DC was exceeded.


HP: 49/60 AC: 22, T:13, FF:21, CMD:16. Fort:+5, Ref:+5, Will:+8(+7). Per:+14, Init:+0, AoO:+8

Having the building increase in size might make things a little complicated, since we'd need to leave room for it to grow, but we can't expand to a new district until we fill the old one.

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Fenna Thistleswade wrote:
Having the building increase in size might make things a little complicated, since we'd need to leave room for it to grow, but we can't expand to a new district until we fill the old one.

I wouldn't count the empty squares as empty for the purpose of that, much like i'm not counting the castle.

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[delurk]

I like the Lodge building idea, and I agree that Pathfinder NPCs should provide a defense bonus (e.g., +1 per square of the building).

But having Pathfinders in town should increase unrest, not decrease it. They're a different political power group, which is likely to stir things up. And they're PC-types not under the direct control of the government (i.e., loose cannons). I'd increase Unrest by 1 for each square built.

[/delurk]

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Eric Zylstra wrote:

[delurk]

I like the Lodge building idea, and I agree that Pathfinder NPCs should provide a defense bonus (e.g., +1 per square of the building).

But having Pathfinders in town should increase unrest, not decrease it. They're a different political power group, which is likely to stir things up. And they're PC-types not under the direct control of the government (i.e., loose cannons). I'd increase Unrest by 1 for each square built.

[/delurk]

I like this- I was wavering between it giving unrest or removing it and I think you've convinced me.

Silver Crusade

Thanks. Here's another thought: Using the special ability generates 1 Unrest because of the additional adventuring activity in town. However, if they die, the lodge demands no or fewer BP.

Your mileage may vary. An ability that generates Unrest is a much higher cost, but the ability to auto-explore is pretty valuable.

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It wouldn't be auto-explore, they would just get hints of what to expect in the hex. A quick recon, if you will.

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Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
It wouldn't be auto-explore, they would just get hints of what to expect in the hex. A quick recon, if you will.

Ah, that makes more sense. +1 Unrest would be too much (and the mechanics don't make as much sense anyhow).

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Second Chapter has begun- Link

What my preference would be is for you to spend a few weeks adventuring, then spend a month or so in Kardas as full-time rulers before venturing out once more. This will allow me easy opportunies to run the events in the chapter, as well as add my own in.

But at the end of the day, the pace is up to you now. The interlude is over, so your the ones setting the pace of the game. If you decide IC to develop Kardas for several more months instead of going out to explore the southern greenbelt, thats up to you...


Duke of Kardas, First Sword of Iomedae HP:51/76 AC:27 F:+14, R:+8, W:+12 CMD:23/24 P:-1 Init:+0 AOO:+16
Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:

Second Chapter has begun- Link

What my preference would be is for you to spend a few weeks adventuring, then spend a month or so in Kardas as full-time rulers before venturing out once more. This will allow me easy opportunies to run the events in the chapter, as well as add my own in.

But at the end of the day, the pace is up to you now. The interlude is over, so your the ones setting the pace of the game. If you decide IC to develop Kardas for several more months instead of going out to explore the southern greenbelt, thats up to you...

I think that makes sense to me as well. I think getting to 5th lvl may cause us to go back for a little while to train and such since it is a bigger level for us so we can take care of any character business at that point as well as some kingdom business if the timing works out. I can see us following this plan though most of the time to balance to 2 pieces of the AP.

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What, no DM AK update for the lovely Vaysh? Hmmmm . . . this calls for a totally unauthorized bio!

Vaysh the Long-Suffering-

During the two years, Vaysh has dutifully carried out her role as Kardas' Magister. Her greatest success has been in convincing many magicians to emigrate to the fledging kingdom. Mysteriously, most of them are young, single, male wizards who become tongue-tied in Vaysh's presence.

Her deep attachment to Baron Maldir is a source of much puzzlement in the kingdom--not directed to their love's genuineness or depth, but to Vaysh's apparent willingness to remain forever in a chaste non-engagement. Most worshippers of Erastil just shake their heads ruefully, but Underpriestess Karina has publicly commented that Iomedaen discipline does nothing to curb a man's inability to commit.

;-)

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Eric Zylstra wrote:

What, no DM AK update for the lovely Vaysh? Hmmmm . . . this calls for a totally unauthorized bio!

Vaysh the Long-Suffering-

During the two years, Vaysh has dutifully carried out her role as Kardas' Magister. Her greatest success has been in convincing many magicians to emigrate to the fledging kingdom. Mysteriously, most of them are young, single, male wizards who become tongue-tied in Vaysh's presence.

Her deep attachment to Baron Maldir is a source of much puzzlement in the kingdom--not directed to their love's genuineness or depth, but to Vaysh's apparent willingness to remain forever in a chaste non-engagement. Most worshippers of Erastil just shake their heads ruefully, but Underpriestess Karina has publicly commented that Iomedaen discipline does nothing to curb a man's inability to commit.

;-)

Nice, feel free to post it on my behalf ;).

The issue was mostly that I was posting between half 12-1AM and I had run out of time... lol.

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Eric Zylstra wrote:

What, no DM AK update for the lovely Vaysh? Hmmmm . . . this calls for a totally unauthorized bio!

and

Ilya Shukhov wrote:
1. *applause* Love the updates, Alexander. Like the end of an 80s movie where they explain what happens to each character later in life.

Which now means only Yelena's update is missing... Tanner?

;)

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Indeed, what did the vile murderer (coup de grace with alchemists fire= EW)...

Ahem...

Mighty hero do next ;)...


Yelena returned to Brevoy to deliver the sad news of Edric's demise. Furious with the death of one of their scions, the elders of House Orlovsky placed her on 'Special Observatory Status.' Which in plain language means her stipend and house privileges were suspended and shifty-looking men followed her everywhere to make sure she was not somehow in collusion with rival houses.

Reports of success from Ilya, however, did much to soften their hearts regarding the Greenbelt. Yelena is currently reinstated in her position as House retainer and busily working to make sure that Orlovsky interests are protected throughout Brevoy.

Cornflower, as always, is ambivalent.


Duke of Kardas, First Sword of Iomedae HP:51/76 AC:27 F:+14, R:+8, W:+12 CMD:23/24 P:-1 Init:+0 AOO:+16
Eric Zylstra wrote:

What, no DM AK update for the lovely Vaysh? Hmmmm . . . this calls for a totally unauthorized bio!

Vaysh the Long-Suffering-

During the two years, Vaysh has dutifully carried out her role as Kardas' Magister. Her greatest success has been in convincing many magicians to emigrate to the fledging kingdom. Mysteriously, most of them are young, single, male wizards who become tongue-tied in Vaysh's presence.

Her deep attachment to Baron Maldir is a source of much puzzlement in the kingdom--not directed to their love's genuineness or depth, but to Vaysh's apparent willingness to remain forever in a chaste non-engagement. Most worshippers of Erastil just shake their heads ruefully, but Underpriestess Karina has publicly commented that Iomedaen discipline does nothing to curb a man's inability to commit.
;-)

In Malthir's defense he would like to move faster but Vaysh seems to be resistant to his charms or maybe that is the issue.

Or maybe it is the long line of suiters that are beating down the castle walls, or maybe she is trying to see just how long poor Malthir can hold out before physical impairment occurs and he is no longer able to adventure due to a "condition of manhood"...either way hold your horses there chief! LOL's

BTW stay tuned for Founderfeast Tales year 2. Any suggestion on who the next story should be about?


Krampus, the Childthief!

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Mikmek? :P


Duke of Kardas, First Sword of Iomedae HP:51/76 AC:27 F:+14, R:+8, W:+12 CMD:23/24 P:-1 Init:+0 AOO:+16
Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Mikmek? :P

Sold! After a moments thought, he did seem like an interesting character to develop a little more. He had promise from Chapter 1. Check the main thread for his story I just posted!

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Good grief! He stabbed him in the @$$!?!

I hope you are happy Malthir... I'll never be able to think about Mikmek again without seeing that heinous image in my mind's eye! ;)

Otherwise, nicely done! (again) :)


Duke of Kardas, First Sword of Iomedae HP:51/76 AC:27 F:+14, R:+8, W:+12 CMD:23/24 P:-1 Init:+0 AOO:+16
Lord oKOyA wrote:

Good grief! He stabbed him in the @$$!?!

I hope you are happy Malthir... I'll never be able to think about Mikmek again without seeing that heinous image in my mind's eye! ;)

Otherwise, nicely done! (again) :)

Where else do you poke a mage for sneak attack damage when you are 3 feet tall? It is right there you know...lol's

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Malthir Al Dagon wrote:


Where else do you poke a mage for sneak attack damage when you are 3 feet tall? It is right there you know...lol's

Achilles tendon, back of the knee, femoral artery (inside of thigh), kidneys, spine... ;)

The location wasn't entirely all that bad (although usually targeted for comical effect), it was the relish with which you described the exact placement of the strike. "I slipped the blade between his soft buttocks and..."

<shudder> <gag> I'm sorry, I can't continue...<gag> :)


Alexander Kilcoyne:
I was just curious; do you ever plan on running another Kingmaker game? Back in the day I played a lot of Birthright in 2nd edition, Kingmaker seems to have some of that down pat with building a kingdom and what not.
I realize that IF you do it I'd maybe have to wait for a year or so, but I'd rather wait for some time and get a good dm than get a game right now for it to fold halfway. Besides, you are highly recommended.

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BoggBear wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

BoggBear:

Even at our breakneck pace I doubt this PbP will finish before 2013.

I don't think I will run another KM PbP (I ran an RL group of it too but it recently folded despite all my efforts due to personal issues between the players and me :( ). Also the workload to running KM over PbP is immense.

I do expect however, that I will launch another PbP sometime in 2011, once I finish my degree. I always give people who are lurkers/known to me advantages in picks for games so i'll try and keep you posted :).

I'd honestly advise you to keep an eye out for all of us regular PbPers and join one of our games when you see it pop up- Me, Navior, Talomyr, Tanner, Lucendar, Joana etc. One of us is bound to start another game soon enough and theres no harm in being in lots of games :).


Alexander Kilcoyne:
All fair points and well made, I guess I will keep my eyes open then. I plan on running Kingmaker myself one day, but I would like to play it first for all the reasons I mentioned before.

Since these people are recommended by you I guess they can't be half bad eh?
The only one I've seen so far is Tanner.

Pity we probably won't get a chance to play Legacy of fire together though. Was looking forward to seeing that Monk of yours in action...also a low int/Cha Monk, It's got to be Ribsmasher it reminded me of ha-ha.

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Lord oKOyA wrote:
. . . I hope you are happy Malthir... I'll never be able to think about Mikmek again without seeing that heinous image in my mind's eye! ;)

mikmek [mik-mek]

verb, mikmekked, mikmekking

to deliver a sneak attack to a location that makes lurkers cringe with sympathetic discomfort: Approaching from behind, Casimir mikmekked the assassin, and the high-pitched screams awakened the entire castle.

I'm a little afraid of what will happen next Founderfeast.


hp 66/66, AC 26/17/20, CMD 23/24, F: +8, R: +11, W: +7, init: +5, per: +10 Human Bard 6/Fighter 2
Eric Zylstra wrote:
Lord oKOyA wrote:
. . . I hope you are happy Malthir... I'll never be able to think about Mikmek again without seeing that heinous image in my mind's eye! ;)

mikmek [mik-mek]

verb, mikmekked, mikmekking

to deliver a sneak attack to a location that makes lurkers cringe with sympathetic discomfort: Approaching from behind, Casimir mikmekked the assassin, and the high-pitched screams awakened the entire castle.

I'm a little afraid of what will happen next Founderfeast.

Hehe...nice

Except of course that Casimir could never mikmek anyone, since he has no rogue levels. Besides....using his new shiny mithril sword to mikmek? No way, no how.


Duke of Kardas, First Sword of Iomedae HP:51/76 AC:27 F:+14, R:+8, W:+12 CMD:23/24 P:-1 Init:+0 AOO:+16
Casimir wrote:
Eric Zylstra wrote:
Lord oKOyA wrote:
. . . I hope you are happy Malthir... I'll never be able to think about Mikmek again without seeing that heinous image in my mind's eye! ;)

mikmek [mik-mek]

verb, mikmekked, mikmekking

to deliver a sneak attack to a location that makes lurkers cringe with sympathetic discomfort: Approaching from behind, Casimir mikmekked the assassin, and the high-pitched screams awakened the entire castle.

I'm a little afraid of what will happen next Founderfeast.

Hehe...nice

Except of course that Casimir could never mikmek anyone, since he has no rogue levels. Besides....using his new shiny mithril sword to mikmek? No way, no how.

Just another reason why Mikmek couldn't tell Malthir about what really happened that day, if he found out what he did he might forbid them from ever Mikmekking someone again...I think it would be against his code on conduct....

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See there now. Casimir's story was nice and tasteful, without anyone being taken from behind in an inappropriate manner... oh wait... that probably is due more to where the story left off... never mind...

;)

PS. Please don't revoke my lurker privileges... :)


hp 66/66, AC 26/17/20, CMD 23/24, F: +8, R: +11, W: +7, init: +5, per: +10 Human Bard 6/Fighter 2
Lord oKOyA wrote:

See there now. Casimir's story was nice and tasteful, without anyone being taken from behind in an inappropriate manner... oh wait... that probably is due more to where the story left off... never mind...

;)

PS. Please don't revoke my lurker privileges... :)

Careful now...after all, it is my wife you are talking about. :-D

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Hi all, don't worry I haven't forgotten you. Have an unexpected visit from an old friend and an assignment I haven't started yet thats due for tomorrow- if I don't manage an update today I promise back to normal pace tomorrow evening. Thanks for your patience.


Alexander Kilcoyne:
Sorry for bothering you again, but this time I'd like to quiz you on something more or less the opposite of before; I'm considering trying to run my own Pbp, at first just a fairly short adventure to try it out, with the possibility of extending it if it goes well. Would you be interested in participating?

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BoggBear wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Bogg:

Sorry not really enough time at the moment with uni- feel free to pitch it to my players.


Alexander Kilcoyne:
No problem, I know how life can be. Besides, I came to realize that since I don't know how to create maps, I might not have what it takes just yet.


Male (HP 26/71, AC- 23 T- 15 FF- 18 CMD- 28, F +11, R +10, W +6, P +15*, In +3*, AOO +17) Half-orc Ranger (Guide) 7/Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 1

I got a laugh and a kick out of this...

Kalev Lehola has just added me as a friend on Facebook...who knew it extended to Golarion :)

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Did you accept? :)

For Kalev ONLY! No PCs!:
You are at -13 HP with a Con score of 14... one HP from death?!? Holy crap! Wishing you good luck the stabilization roll! Or that someone heals you in time!


Male (HP 26/71, AC- 23 T- 15 FF- 18 CMD- 28, F +11, R +10, W +6, P +15*, In +3*, AOO +17) Half-orc Ranger (Guide) 7/Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) 1
Lord oKOyA wrote:

Did you accept? :)

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Lord oKOyA:
Yeah, I live life on the edge...couldn't really heal myself without risking a fatal AoO, so pressed the attack...epic, aye? :)
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Kalev:
A knives edge, 1 HP to go... epic indeed! :)

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I may have mentioned this to various people on MSN, but I thought i'd make myself clear with some copy-paste-fu.

I am completely swamped with work for university- i'm posting at 6AM after being up all night working on a damn progress report, and I have a paper on security due in a couple of days. I'm stressed, burnt out and exhausted.

Hence my slower post rate- but never fear, for my next deadline is on friday so I imagine i'll be back to normal posting rate on monday, after my melted brain has cooled down once more.

Thanks for your patience, and apologises for the slowdown on my end.

Edit: Also, how did we let this topic sink into the archives... :(


HP: 49/60 AC: 22, T:13, FF:21, CMD:16. Fort:+5, Ref:+5, Will:+8(+7). Per:+14, Init:+0, AoO:+8

Does anyone else kind of feel that colour spray combined with awesome display is a little too good? Admittedly, even alone colour spray can allow for a few coup de grace actions if the positioning is right, but perhaps the durations of the unconsciousness and blindness should be reduced based on the creatures unmodified HD somehow?

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It is very nice but i'm happy enough with it. Its still a level 1 spell with a very short range, i'm just having terrible luck with saving throws lately :)


HP: 49/60 AC: 22, T:13, FF:21, CMD:16. Fort:+5, Ref:+5, Will:+8(+7). Per:+14, Init:+0, AoO:+8
Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
It is very nice but i'm happy enough with it. Its still a level 1 spell with a very short range, i'm just having terrible luck with saving throws lately :)

True, as soon as you start rolling 10s or higher it'll be far less effective.


hp 66/66, AC 26/17/20, CMD 23/24, F: +8, R: +11, W: +7, init: +5, per: +10 Human Bard 6/Fighter 2

With the monsters and power-build NPC's Alex has been throwing at us lately, I'll take any help I can get. And who says us metal-wielding apes get to have all the fun.

And as Alex points out, save-or-suck spells are a lot less fun once the baddies start actually making their saves.

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Errata is out for APG, don't think it affects any of you except its been confirmed that you get the extra spell at 5th level arcane duelist etc.


hp 66/66, AC 26/17/20, CMD 23/24, F: +8, R: +11, W: +7, init: +5, per: +10 Human Bard 6/Fighter 2

Christmas Eve is rapidly approaching here in Denmark. Happy holidays to you all.


Human Psychomancer

Merry Christmas to all! I'm spending my yuletide avoiding in-laws as much as possible. :)

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