Oh! That's not necessary I'll do the RP. You can ofc act as the manservant but he's mostly just for background and for someone that Agrippa can order around.
Unless of course you have other, more devious plans.
Oh boy. So the Champions of Corruption book came out recently, and this is a feat in it: Stunning Irruption.
Wodin using Stonestrike to bash through walls and surprise people on the other side sounds like it'd be hilarious. :D
That sounds flipping awesome! Agrippa approves of sending the dwarf through the door first!
"HERE IS WODIN!" the dwarf shouts as the door to the room explodes in a shower of wooden fragments.
You gotta do it!!!
Tell me if you want some time to RP among yourself, or if I should jump to dinner time.
If everyone else wants to RP a little more, I'm down.
Lets move on GM, we've been down for a few weeks now.
...yeah, actually, that's a good point. I think we took care of most of what needed to be said.
@Eldred.
You need some more consistence on your rolls.
If you are going to threaten him using the cardinal, makes no sense in trying a diplomacy at the end, because your threat negates it.
I didnt think it was a threat - but I'll try to be more careful with my wording.
That said, didnt the crdinal give us a phrase to say if the man got too big for his boots?
What exactly do we need this jacked up ninny for again?
I dunno....but he has secrets so he is right now #1 on Agrippa's list of best possible sacrifices for summoning a Zebub.
oh that would be ironic.. . probably not the kind of help the cardinal had envisioned, but he did tell us to be resourceful :>
Before you guys get too overboard with your planning, keep in mind that this guy got a 36 on something that required a sense motive from us. I cannot get a 36 on any skill check. Can any of you? He might be slightly above our CR range. :)
Stop metagame dumping on Agrippa's parade!
Yeah, not one of us can hit that kind of sense motive check.
To Eldred's point, we did exactly what the cardinal suggested. We led with reminding him that he owed Thorn, and suggested that we could bring profit to his door, at little risk to himself.
He responded by calling us beggars, threatening to blackmail us, and calling Johan stupid ( which is a tender point with him, cause he kinda is). And WE HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED HIM FOR ANYTHING YET!!
Yeah, I know that it seems unfair.
That the beginning of the Dinner, the baron is decided against helping you. That is why the hostilities.
Your goals is to convince him otherwise until the dinners at an end.
Can you remind us what we are trying to get out of this relationship?
The cardinal did not told you anything about it.
But it's fairly easy to guess.
He is the most influent and rich noble in farhold. He is also another devout of asmodeus, and some rumors, says that he is not the most good of the souls.
Of course you can always ignore it and kill the Baron, it's your choice really, the cardinal never said you should ally with the baron, only that he may be a good ally.
re-reading the 1st page of this thread it seems we have another knot in town. We'd better ask Tiadora how to contact them, or use the underworld contacts to do so.
They're the ones that (supposedly) kicked the bucket, aren't they?
Nah - go back and read the cardinals intro on page 1.
Oh hey, yeah, you're right. They may not want to deal with us, though, because they're probably busy doing assassin-y stuff.
May be useful as a stick or as a carrot.
Possibly. I don't know if Tiadora would help with that (she kind of seems to not give any f**** about anything, in general) but your underground connections might be able to pull something off. :)
The seventh knot is yet to arrive at Farhold.
And it'll be their job to help you.
Meaning, in the cardinal eyes, you are superior to the seventh knot, and thus getting the more important stuff to do.
Hmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
So threatening this guy is kind of a waste of time, but we don't want to suck up to him too much, because our loyalties are solidly with Asmodeus and the Cardinal (or at least, they appear that way) and I doubt we want to have to any more obligations to deal with. But having the Baron on our side will hopefully be able to provide us with stuff that could be useful to messing Talingarde's year up.
Decisions, decisions.
Eldred goes off to ask the head butler who the Barons factor is for estate and business operations so as to secure maps and details on provisioning needed.
As this is likely to be a long stay Eldred is thinking they may need upwards of 20 or 30 mules for provisions.
Okay, call me dumb, but can you explain better what you wanted? :D
Just asking for a map, the best they have on hand or can arrange of Caer Briar and the temple area/landmark.
The 20-30 mules thing is an after thought to himself thinking they'll need a lot of supplies and that it may extend to needing upwards of a crap load of mules to move supplies.
It its 1 week travel we'll need 2-3 weeks supplies. 1 week there, 1 week for adventuring, 1 week back.
Thats the boundry of most peoples carrying capcity in water skins etc.
If its 2 weeks out there we need 5 weeks supplies. 2 weeks out, 1 week adventuring, 2 back and so forth. Thats a mule. Maybe two for the party, and maybe another carrying fodder, additional water etc. And you want to probably have some buffer in there too. Assuming we also want lots of spare arrows and stuff then thats another mule.
If its 3 weeks out, then its 7 weeks supplies per person. Hence the crap tonne of mules. Get enough mules and soon you have mules carrying the food for the mules who are carrying stuff.
Or we could get a bag of holding :)
@Eldred
Don't need to ask for apologize.
I'm trying to be a little more descriptive on my posts. No issue if you want to talk with any npc, she is you know, pretty and is richly dressed. Shame she is not a virgin to be sacrificed!
Okay, kidding about the last part;
Its good - I like it, keep it up. I just didn't spot it for what it was.
Ok chaps.
We need to plan for expendibles.
I recommend something to beat DR. Adamandite blanch is best - I am planing on 3 doses minimum. Silver and Cold Iron as well.
This plague bearer is an evil outsider, so believe it or not a few vials of holy water and an oil of bless weapon isnt a bad idea if we screw up and it goes for us.
Oil of unholy weapon is also a good option - if we need to fight angels, it will work a treat.
Some anti toxins, and anti plagues, oil of protection from good/evil are also smart moves. Potion of Darkvision isn't a bad option either.
I figure we can all afford about 300-500 from our own budgets in expendibles. Lets not be stingy.
Anyone think of things that we need to be buying with the communal money? scrolls of Lesser restoration, scrolls of restoration (energy drain comes up now at this level of play) are all smart plays. Oil of daylight is a virtual must as deeper darkness can come into play too.
wow!
That's a lot of metagame preparation!
:D
too much PFS on my part I think.
You guys should have seen our table for the Bone Keep Special at Gen Con. Even I was daunted by the expendables purchased.
Eldred, did you see my request for a wand of Cure Light. Being evil and all I cannot spontaneous cast curing.
PFS has been the bane of my existence as a GM on these boards.
I think er have one with a few charges but as a fresh one is 750gp I think we can afford that
Wodin can beat Adamantine DR with his Stonestrirke, so he probably doesn't need the blanch for that. He'll definitely be willing to drop some gold on consumables, but his low Charisma and lack of UMD mean that he won't be able to use most of them. But if you need him to carry junk, he'll be all over that. ;)
My stuff
1 Anti-Plague 50gp
2 Alkali flasks 30gp
3 Adamandite Blanch 300gp
1 Silver Weapon Blanch 5gp
1 Ghost Salt weapon blanch 200gp
40 Cold Iron Arrows 4gp
1 Potion Invisibility 300gp
1 Potion Darkvision 300gp
1 Hammock 1sp
= 1189.1
+ Introductory bribe to Underworld boss 100gp + 120gp to send home (inc. 20% 'transfer' fee)
= 1409.1gp from 2290.5gp
Group stuff suggestion
1 mule 8gp
1 Pack Saddle 5gp
6 x 50ft hemp rope 6gp
50 Trail Rations 25gp
50 waterskins 50gp
2 Scroll of Lsr Restoration 300gp
1 Wand CLW 750gp
Oil of Daylight 750gp
1 scroll Restoration 700gp
Anything else suggested?
Wodin only has ~400 gold, but I'd be down for buying most of the mundane stuff.
A mule, a pack saddle, all that rope, food and water only comes out to about 90ish gold, which isn't a huge tax on his funds. And, as a bonus, it might make everyone trust and accept him into the knot a little more: he does have the other's interests in mind. LAWFUL evil, after all. :)
1 mule 8gp
1 Pack Saddle 5gp
6 x 50ft hemp rope 6gp
50 Trail Rations 25gp
50 waterskins 50gp
Consider this stuff purchased. Total is 94 gold pieces. :)
Hold onto your coins Wodin, we've got a slush fund for just such expenditures - one of the advantages of being in a lawful evil party. We may be bloodthirsty killers, but we keep good ledgers!
Johan is down to 12 charges I think on the party's wand of CLW so a fresh one might be in order. I'd also be behind the 2 scrolls of lesser restoration. The oil of daylight and restoration scroll seem expensive though.
On another note: Water is twice as expensive as food?! Really!?
Just the stuff water is kept in. Because derp.
I'm still willing to toss money into the consumables pot, because I'd rather be poor and prepared than rich and dead! :D
You'll thank me later at some stage I think but your call - restoration is avail at 7th level so we can be covered soon enough but oil of daylight is a valuable get out of jail item.
Heh, yeah we will be like modern day campers leaving a trail of premium mountain spring plastic water bottles behind us.
Okay, poor and prepared it is then..
Using party funds to buy
1 mule 8gp
1 Pack Saddle 5gp
6 x 50ft hemp rope 6gp
50 Trail Rations 25gp
50 waterskins 50gp
2 Scroll of Lsr Restoration 300gp
1 Wand CLW 750gp
Oil of Daylight 750gp
1 scroll Restoration 700gp
2884gp deducted from party share
so scroll and potion-wise, who's carrying what?
For his personal gear, Johan will ask the baron to have his mace enchanted to +1
Wodin can carry a surprising large amount with no ill effects (yay dwarves in full plate!) so he can carry rope and food/drink if necessary.