Birthright: Ruins of Empire (Inactive)

Game Master Elton

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Jaris would certainly show up


GM:

OK, I'm trying o get my head around this province stuff, but I'm getting a bit confused given different sources of info.

For starters, the info you wrote on page 1 of this thread differs fom the page Moergan lined for me here. As much as I hate to say it, it seems you've given me too much treasury (21 GB instead of 16), but perhaps not enough military units? Or more specifically, navy - the wiki states 2 galleons, 4 caravels, and 2 coasters.

Also, the wiki doesn't include all my holdings on the domain table - I have them in the Player's Secrets book, which lines up with Moergan's description of my Sources, but I'm surprised the wiki domain table doesn't have them. The province ummary at the top, which shows RP income 21 (province 7 RO, source 14) does line up with the absent sources though....

Also, the Player's Secrets book states I have a personal wealth/reserve treasury of 8 GB squirrelled away in case of financial emergency, a library (not terribly expansive) of arcane spells, and a small holding of magic items (some potions, a gem of brightness, a scroll, and an absent/lost staff, obviously an adventure hook). It does, however, say that all spells and items need to be approved by the GM, and that the personal treasury is assumed to be available, but can be considered lost if th GM wants to make an adventure out of it.

Can you clarify any of this for me please?!

Cheers.


Under construction...


READY PLAYER CHARACTER
Moergan Neptuine - Eastern Temple of Nesirie - Cleric

APPROVED PLAYER CHARACTER - Need complete avatar profile
littlehewy - Ilien - Rogr Aglondier, Wizard

UNAPPROVED PLAYER CHARACTER - Need approval and avatar
Orfamay Quest - Mieres - LILIBET LOWENSHILD, Ranger
tdunn1989 - Roesone - Gaius Anphelan Roesone, Fighter
Tenro - Endier - Probably rogue

MAYBE LOST INTEREST
Squee the Goblin - Aerenwe - Rainer Orkning, Fighter

For the unapproved characters, is it clear what you need to do? Do you need support?

I've PMed Squee to offer help or confirm his departure.

@everyone
FYI, Tdunn found a trait that gives a bonus to leadership score - Natural Born Leader.

Yes, I want to start playing as soon as possible. ;D

cheers

cheers


Is the trait the only thing holding me back? Haha


As far as I know I am good. Judging by comments, at least one person who knows what they are doing has scanned my sheet. More probably wouldnt hurt.

But yeah just waiting on the A-OK by Elton as far as I know.


I don't know if anyone has checked on mine since updating it haha

I'm still a little vague on how all the rolls for running the kingdom goes but really looking forward to this game


Re: character profile, I have yet to do my background or appearance, I may tweak my gear by adding some scrolls, and I'm just waiting on some clarification on some things from the GM, after which I'll put up my domain stuff as well. But basically all my decisions are made.


I guess I need to do equipment


I think I still need skills, equipment, and realm spells.


Everyone still here?

equipment is done partially least the major stuff is


still here, awaiting final approval

Silver Crusade

Tenro, you've been approved.

Silver Crusade

littlehewy wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Oh boy, I have to fix the wiki. :)

Okay, so not all the information on your kingdom is revealed? Can you give me the pages in Players Secrets where this is missing?


GM Elton wrote:
Tenro, you've been approved.

sweeeeeet


GM Elton wrote:
littlehewy wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Oh boy, I have to fix the wiki. :)

Okay, so not all the information on your kingdom is revealed? Can you give me the pages in Players Secrets where this is missing?

Can do, in about an hour or so :)


Gm what am I missing to be approved? :(


GM:
Pg 30 has the treasury info (15 GB + 8 GB in my personal reserve), as well as the arcane library - the cache of magic is on pg 31. Some of the holding info is scattered through the text on pp 24-7, but all the holdings (including the two churches' temples and el-Hadin's guild) are on a handout/card. They are as follows:-

- Law 7 (Ilien), Aglondier
- Temple 4 (Ilien), Impregnable Heart
- Temple 4 (Ilien),Eastern Temple
- Guild 7 (Ilien), el-Hadid
- Source 1 (Shadowgreen/Aerenwe), Aglondier
- Source 1 (Northvale/Aerenwe), Aglondier
- Source 3 (Banien's Deep/Aerenwe), Aglondier
- Source 3 (Westmarch/Aerenwe), Aglondier
- Source 1 (Alamier/Medoere), Aglondier
- Source 1 (Caercas/Roesone), Aglondier
- Source 2 (Duerlin/Roesone), Aglondier
- Source 2 (Abbatuor/Roesone), Aglondier

That's all the info I have. I got my "alternate" armed forces info from the wiki, which were different from what was given on pg 1 of this thread.

Silver Crusade

Gaius Anphelan Roesone wrote:

Gm what am I missing to be approved? :(

Nothing. You can play. :)

Silver Crusade

Rogr Aglondier wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Okay.

I think I know where to fix the wiki with your lists of sources. I'll fix it soon. :)


GM Elton wrote:
Rogr Aglondier wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Okay.

I think I know where to fix the wiki with your lists of sources. I'll fix it soon. :)

Sahweet...


Yo GM - any slots left in Anuire?

I don't have the Birthright campaign setting but I have a bunch of region books Tuarhievel, Medoere, Ilien, Endier, Tuornen, Talinie, Stjordvik. I understand Tuarhievel and Stjordvik aren't in Anuire....

And I'm not fully hooked on playing a witch regent either, though it might be fun...:)

If Squee has lost interest in Aerenwe I'd be up for it but I don't have the book for that domain.

(little hewy should be able to give me a good reference...)


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Yo GM - any slots left in Anuire?

I don't have the Birthright campaign setting but I have a bunch of region books Tuarhievel, Medoere, Ilien, Endier, Tuornen, Talinie, Stjordvik. I understand Tuarhievel and Stjordvik aren't in Anuire....

And I'm not fully hooked on playing a witch regent either, though it might be fun...:)

If Squee has lost interest in Aerenwe I'd be up for it but I don't have the book for that domain.

(little hewy should be able to give me a good reference...)

Published Aerenwe starts with provinces and law holdings, so a martial character would be best to maximize regency point collection. Follow the link to review.

My PM to Squee to confirm his interest in Aerenwe has been unanswered for 48+ hours. Wait for Elton to give you a green light to start building a character. To prepare, the character generation rules and guide are on page 1 of this thread.

cheers


Gotcha. I've read the Aerenwe article, looks like some good intrigue within and without. I will await GM Elton's go ahead.


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Yo GM - any slots left in Anuire?

I don't have the Birthright campaign setting but I have a bunch of region books Tuarhievel, Medoere, Ilien, Endier, Tuornen, Talinie, Stjordvik. I understand Tuarhievel and Stjordvik aren't in Anuire....

And I'm not fully hooked on playing a witch regent either, though it might be fun...:)

If Squee has lost interest in Aerenwe I'd be up for it but I don't have the book for that domain.

(little hewy should be able to give me a good reference...)

*covers face with hands* Oh no, not that guy....

Spoiler:
Hey there MB ;)


(looks around) I didn't do anything!

Spoiler:
Hey Hewy - have you got the BR Core stuff? I always wanted to get it but I found out about it too late and could only later pick up bits and pieces. Anyone round your way have a spare box/copy? I'll pay postage...


Spoiler:

I haven't owned BR since before the turn of the millennium. This is what you want. There's info on the provinces and stuff there too.

Edit: there's a Pathfinder conversion linked on this thread (pg 2?) that the GM has made, too.


ok profile is all done!


How's it coming along ocean?

Silver Crusade

Moergan Neptuine wrote:
Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Yo GM - any slots left in Anuire?

I don't have the Birthright campaign setting but I have a bunch of region books Tuarhievel, Medoere, Ilien, Endier, Tuornen, Talinie, Stjordvik. I understand Tuarhievel and Stjordvik aren't in Anuire....

And I'm not fully hooked on playing a witch regent either, though it might be fun...:)

If Squee has lost interest in Aerenwe I'd be up for it but I don't have the book for that domain.

(little hewy should be able to give me a good reference...)

Published Aerenwe starts with provinces and law holdings, so a martial character would be best to maximize regency point collection. Follow the link to review.

My PM to Squee to confirm his interest in Aerenwe has been unanswered for 48+ hours. Wait for Elton to give you a green light to start building a character. To prepare, the character generation rules and guide are on page 1 of this thread.

cheers

Squee had to bow out because the load of learning new rules and going to (back?) college was too much for him to take in. My writing style isn't quite the best in trying to explain rules, I guess. It's being put to great effect writing my wiki for my psionics campaign, though. I don't blame him, actually, BIRTHRIGHT is asking a lot.

Its one of those campaigns you fall in love with but it can be too fathomous to dive into. If Birthright were compared with a woman, she'd be the most beautiful and accessible female Aristocrat in the whole world, but it's her suitors that put themselves out of the running for marriage.

So, I invited Squee to one of my other campaigns.

Silver Crusade

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Gotcha. I've read the Aerenwe article, looks like some good intrigue within and without. I will await GM Elton's go ahead.

You can play. :)


@Ocean

If you need any support to accelerate your character build, please let me know. See my character creation guide on page 1.

cheers


*twiddles thumbs kicking legs back and forth whistling*

:D


yeah, i may not have knowledge of the rules, but i learn them the best when i dive right in.

if i drown, and my PC dies or loses his kingdom, i will see what needs to be adjusted from there.


Tenro wrote:

yeah, i may not have knowledge of the rules, but i learn them the best when i dive right in.

if i drown, and my PC dies or loses his kingdom, i will see what needs to be adjusted from there.

I'm with you. Expect a lot of dumb questions at the start, but I will pick it up!


So when are we looking at starting? Haven't heard from ocean all day


I'm here but won't be ready for at least another 8-12 hrs. I've checked the Birthright.net site and dl'ed the 3.5 rules. Haven't checked them out yet though.

GM - should I look to be an Ainurean or can I be say a Vos or half-elf?

Concepts for your consideration:
Vos Barbarian - though an obvious outsider was a guard of the Lady who follows "state religion" of Nesirie and tries to claim legitimacy through strength, adherence to Nesirie's teachings and honorable mien.

Half Elf Magus - again an outsider but claims the Lady was his mother and the Mage of the Forestis his father. Pays lip service to Nesirie and favors a populist approach to the rural cultural norms.

If neither of those are ok or are too controversial:

Human (Aerenwe Ainurean) Paladin or Cavalier (Order of the Star) [EDIT - or Inquisitor] of Nesirie - "Cael" mentioned in the Aerenwe writeup...

I'm fine to start after the rest if I'm holding you up...

Silver Crusade

The thread for game play and Discussion is open. You guys could have posted at any time since last monday. :)

I had wrongly thought you'd all have that figured out. BTW: I will be unavailable the next few days as I'll be Laying Out Pathways #31. I'll play the Domain Turn for your enemies last.

@Ocean: You can be a Vos, or a Half-Elf. These choices aren't impossible. Which seems stronger for you?


Well, either really. Are we supposed to be making an unbroken line with previous regimes/administration or taking our domain "for" ourselves as it were?


Lol oops, I'm used to gameplay and discussion threads being announced...

Silver Crusade

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Well, either really. Are we supposed to be making an unbroken line with previous regimes/administration or taking our domain "for" ourselves as it were?

Depends on how you play that out. It's pretty much up to you at this point.


Hmm. Okay. I'll go with a Vos interloper, a hardcore Inquisitor of Nerisie - he is respectful of the Aerenwe ways but wants to strengthen further the primacy of the faith. The barbarian thing wasn't really working for me.
How does that sound?


Graaargh! I can't seem to open a .rar on my Mac. Or I'm an idiot. Where do I get a copy of the rulebook I need that I can use/open? :) So sorry for the annoyance....
[EDIT - little hewy is on to it... thanks hewy]


GM Elton: Ok, so I'm looking at the Birthright d20 CS Version 0.0, Jan 30, 2003 as a general guide.

From the first post on this thread I'm going through the character creation list.

Questions:

* 1 Domain Aerenwe. Class Inquisitor.

GM wrote:
Depending on your class, you can earn more regency points for law, temple, guild or source holdings. Your first feat allows you to earn half regency for one type of holding. A second feat allows you to earn full regency for the same holding or half for a second type of holding.

Not sure what this means yet, but sounds fun.

* 2: Race - Human/Vos.

* 4 -Bloodline strength and score. So my Bloodline strength is 1d20. Might as well do that now:

Bloodline: Bloodline strength: 1d20 ⇒ 17

Do I roll on the bloodline derivation chart by Race on page 34 of the CS? Or do I choose a Bloodline? I'm a bit confused about Bloodline Strength and Bloodline Score....

* 5 - Stats - so I can ignore a bad Bloodline roll and choose a 30 pt but for 7 stats - including Blood , which is doubled to get Bloodline score.
- A little confused about scions. I thought I would be a scion - why would you choose NOT to be?

* 6 - Traits - Can I choose one regional feat from the CS in place of two traits? Wanting to get the Vos Inscribe War Tattoo regional feat. If not, I don't have the Humans of Golarion book so some Varisian/Vos suggestions would be great....

* 7 - I get one bloodline feat and must roll for bloodline powers. Roll for number or type?

* 8/9 - Feats -I must spend my first feat on Regency of Holding but I can get Leadership as my human bonus feat?

* 10 - Bodyguards - I'm guessing an Inquisitor is a hybrid...

Bodyguards Bodyguards: 4d6 + 10 ⇒ (5, 6, 4, 3) + 10 = 28

* 11 - As an inquisitor do I get the 1d3 realm spells?

* 12 - Are any of the new skills class skills for an Inquisitor?

* 14 - Equipment - Starting gold is usually 4d6 x 10. So as a regent that is x20.

Starting gold Gold!: 4d610 ⇒ (7, 142, 266, 465) = 880

* So Nesirie's favored weapon is the trident? That's...interesting. :} Any chance she occasionally bestows the cutlass?

* Can someone relink me to the PF conversion... Specifically for Inquisitors....

Thanks in advance and sorry if I'm being obtuse!!!


Granrnrnrnrnr. Tried three times to redo gold in this post. I'll come back to it...


You'll get 4d6x200, by the way :)


OMG. My maths is so bad.... At this rate there will be no treasury in Aerenwe... Let's try it again

4d1001 ⇒ (71, 3, 365, 783) = 1222

I'm cursed. I wrote 4d6 x 200 with the formatting either side of it. Still goes berko....


Maybe just roll 4d6 and do the other bit manually..?


Ok. Sigh.

4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 4, 3) = 13

2600 gold. Thanks hewy. Can you answer any of my actual questions that aren't GM fiat? Bloodline/scion stuff?

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