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            thanks for the feedback, all of which was useful.
I try to speed up the knowledge check stuff by providing them in spoilers, but yeah, that aspect can bog things down quite a bit.
Anyway, we're getting trough this section now, so we'll see how we go.
I think sometimes in PbP you need to be more obvious about things too, for the very reasons you mention Wander Weir. It's difficult to work out subtle stuff when not talking face to face.
At this stage, let it play out and we'll go from there.
Cheers

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            That scene was always going to be hard for Elsbeth, although I suspect the other women in the group were none too impressed by what happened to her either.
If I go too far with any of the descriptive stuff let me know folks. I read a great deal of David Gemmel and other Authors who throw this type of thing into their gritty fantasy novels all the time, and it rubs off on my own style.
I try to convey the point without crossing too many boundaries but please let me know if it gets a bit much at times.
Cheers

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            For Vanulf
However, if you're losing the interest or don't have the time for a post a day can you let me know as I may need to recruit a replacement.
Not trying to come down on you, I'm just trying to keep my game flowing at a pace I'm happy with and that's hard if people can't add to the game regularly. Waiting on folk can kill a game faster than you might think
Cheers

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I'm going to open up character submission for a game I'm going to run. It will be the Legacy of Fire adventure path.
I've been seriously considering submitting. I've got a character in a LoF pbp that runs very slowly with a rather...abstract...DM. It's not going entirely to my tastes and I'd kind of like to try something else. Given that there are so many people looking to get in, however, and such good concepts I think it's best that I just stick with what I've got, alas.

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            Thanks for the game offer Tanner. I'll pass at this stage (its full any way I reckon). If I do another game on this site It'll be another one I DM if time permits. I have a character in another game at the moment but any more will take away from DMing time, and that's not something I want.
Also, no probs on not getting background stories done Gandal, that was only an option if people wanted to keep in character.
Cheers

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            In effect the event was a bit confused. Elsbeth saw the scene with the eyes of the men.I added the "clothes ripped off" because of the men sitting on him(her) and starting to hack at the stomach and chest...i guess normal linen shirt won't resist that treatment.

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            Heya Gandal, I rolled peoples initiatives for them to speed the combat up. Otherwise we'd have to spend another day waiting for posts to determine when people act. This is probably something I'll continue doing for combats that happen this way, just to make sure the game keeps flowing.
Hopefully folks don't mind (it's how most PbP's are done as far as I've seen).
Cheers

| Wander Weir | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Heya Gandal, I rolled peoples initiatives for them to speed the combat up. Otherwise we'd have to spend another day waiting for posts to determine when people act. This is probably something I'll continue doing for combats that happen this way, just to make sure the game keeps flowing.
Hopefully folks don't mind (it's how most PbP's are done as far as I've seen).
Most of the PbP's I'm in work the same way. I meant to post right after I saw your post this morning, Wrath but events got away from me. Anyway, I'm just fine with you rolling our initiatives. Makes sense to me.

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            Rimrock

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            Hey all, I'm going to try my hand at running a second AP on the boards. This will be Rise of the Runelords, as I own all of it and have wanted to run it since it came out.
I'll create a recruitment thread and link it later, but wanted to give you a heads up in case you're interested in submitting for it.
As a note, if it starts interfering with this game to the point where I can't post once a day, I'll ease back on the runelords game and not this game. This is the first one I started and I have made a commitment to all of you on it.
Cheers

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            A note on how/why I put the haunted house in (for those interested)
Interestingly, I looked through the random encounters I had rolled and saw both a lone wolf and a will'o'wisp. One was a no threat encounter, the other would've been a TPK. So I tried to roll them into one but looked for some inspiration on toning down the Wisp. The bestiary for the first module has an undead horror formed by the uneasy spirit of a child killed by disease, and that was what you were originally going to fight (It's why the original story of Svetlana's had Tristan being ill.)
However, then I read the Haunt rules from the DMG and figured I'd use those instead. I also wanted to tie the Fey that have been harrassing you into it all somehow, and keep the kobold theme for the encounter also, since they are apparently abundant around the area and you need to deal with them sooner or later.
It all worked out rather well in the end. Gave me some suitable encounters, let me try some new rules (which I still need to work on), gave some more backstory to the bandits and locals and allowed some interesting roleplay.
Hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did.

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            I really liked the way you brought the various elements together, especially the idea that the Fey creature who took the buckles left them with Tristan. That was a really nice way to tie everything together. The visions we all experienced at the house really helped to bring the setting alive, and it made for a nice mystery.
It was quite a fun set of encounters.

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            Family are mostly over it now. I'n getting it, but it appears to be a much milder dose. Mostly just some aches and shakes without the real fever or exhaustion. Well enough so I can post.
Thanks for your concern folks, its one of the best things about these boards, that type of collegiate support.
Cheers

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            Elsbeth will try to calm the nearest horse with Daze before approaching and trying to grab the tether. She will also warn the others that what she is trying won't harm or scare the horse more
Daze on the horse save DC 16
and just in case
Acrobatics 1d20
Handle Animals 1d20+4
Strength check 1d20-1Add:could have been worse
Hey...your Handle Animal is a +4? And you're always talking about how Elsbeth can't help out with anything during the exploration rolls? You're twice as good at Handle Animal as Lev is!
I think expedition duties need to be switched around a little. :P

| Wander Weir | 
 
	
 
                
                
              
            
            Hmm. From the SRD:
Untrained
If you have no ranks in Handle Animal, you can use a Charisma check to handle and push domestic animals, but you can’t teach, rear, or train animals. A druid or ranger with no ranks in Handle Animal can use a Charisma check to handle and push her animal companion, but she can’t teach, rear, or train other nondomestic animals.
I'm not sure if that'd suffice for the exploration checks or not. Anyway, I was just surprised when I saw Elsbeth's roll. Intuitively I knew that she had to have a pretty good modifier for the skill, but I never actually gave any thought to it.

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            I tend to play a bit loose with skill checks in general (except knowledge checks). There are times when I'll allow you to make a check whether trained or not, and times when you need to be trained to get more than a 10. This time was a no, since the situation was happenning fast and it was dangerous.
However, for exploration I'd probably allow it, since that is something you're doing over the course of an entire day rather than one short moment.
I'll try to let you know the times when you can use them untrained or not.
As for the Daze spell, I forgot that it didn't affect non humanoids. I appreciated you pointing that out Gandal, saved me some time having to look it up.
I will be putting in some situations where Elsbeths particular skills will shine more, but you may want to consider that this is going to be mostly a wilderness exploration game for most of the first chapter. It might help to take a rank in one or two skills that are more suited to that when you level up, if you so desire.
Cheers

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I will be putting in some situations where Elsbeths particular skills will shine more, but you may want to consider that this is going to be mostly a wilderness exploration game for most of the first chapter. It might help to take a rank in one or two skills that are more suited to that when you level up, if you so desire.Cheers
Don't worry, i'm enjoying even more this game. Took in account Elsbeth'll need some rank in Handle Animals and Survival. Will see into those at lvl 2

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OK please, before going on with the encounter we really should plan togheter what every one of us wants to do
Since it's an OOC discussion I thought I'd move it to OOC forum.
I'm not sure I agree we should discuss tactics out of character before following them in character. I've always considered that to be a metagaming too much. Mawj is always going to react to a threat in her own way, just as Elsbeth is going to react in hers. Our characters aren't going to stop in the middle of a threatening situation and say, "Hold up guys. Elsbeth needs to move to a more secure location before we initiate hostilities. Thanks for your patience."
That's just my opinion and I'll follow the general consensus either way.

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            In a situation like this, where you've been caught in the open unprepared, I'd prefer not to have the ooc discussion. Like WW suggests, you act the way your character would normally act. Most of you did well conveying your concerns in character without having to go ooc and plan (good use of internal monologue always helps hehe)
In a situation where you have time to plan ahead, feel free to move to an OOC planning session.
I'll give Alandra and Anya time to respond in thread before I go further.
Oh, and remember that dealing with things out of combat can often give you as much experience as in combat.
Cheers

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            Elsbeth , for example, would like resolve all situations out of combat.
I suggested that "planning matter" just because of the fact that Elsbeth was trying to parley and someone else seemed anxious to start hostilities....pity she was in the middle. And she has no AC o HP

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I suggested that "planning matter" just because of the fact that Elsbeth was trying to parley and someone else seemed anxious to start hostilities....pity she was in the middle. And she has no AC o HP
Yeah, I can see how that'd be frustrating for her.
It was actually a fairly tricky situation. We're supposed to take control of the bandit situation after all. Just letting them go isn't really a very good way to go about doing that. On the other hand, Lev wants to know more about the stag pendant and thought that allowing them to go free and either following them or trying to track them back to their lair would be the best way of accomplishing that. Besides, he could tell that Elsbeth was too exposed and thought it'd be better to try and defuse the situation rather than risk her getting badly injured or killed.
Mawj, on the other hand, had good reason to be confrontational. All in all, I think the situation played out quite well.
Of course, given Elsbeth's comments after Lev was the one who supported her, he's now kind of wishing he'd followed Mawj's lead. :)

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            No fear Gandal, Elsbeth did more in that encounter than you'd belive. Just remember that the in character chatter isn't a reflection of how the players feel, just what their characters would say.
An insight on that encounter btw. I've taken teh skill hallenge idea from 4th edition and I se it at times in my pathfinder games. That was an example of one. The bandits where wavering on what they should do, and some of them where hurt. I basically set a number of rolls required and adjusted a baseline charisma check for the dwarf. The number of successful diplomacy and bluff checks shifted it in one direction, the number of intimdates that were successful shifted it another way.
Elsbeth's initial diplomacy stopped an imediate attack. Her bluff aided Lev's diplomacy.
I rolled for everyone else dependent on their actions. It was very close. I'm not sure everyone would have survived that particular encounter if it had gone to combat, and it very nearly did.
Cheers

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            Yes, i noticed Lev's efforts to help Elsbeth during the "diplomacy challenge"...but as always Lev's word pissed off her once the matter was resolved. Elsbeth is the first one to be upset about the bluff she chose, and Lev didn't help her in feeling better about it.
 
	
 
     
     
     
	
  
 
                
                 
	
  
	
 