So what are the choices of cards that can be taken with the card feat? Up to tier 2? Or does it still have to be basic? Or something in between? And can the card feat slot be used to take an upgrade (since Valeros' other slots are basically already pretty much set)?
You pick a Card Feat to check off on your character card, so you then have one empty slot for a Weapon/Armor/Item/Etc.
Then you pick your Deck Upgrade. If it matches the Card Feat you chose, your new upgrade goes in there.
Then, if you didn't fill your new deck slot with a Deck Upgrade, you must fill it with a Basic from your Class Deck (or Ultimate Add-On deck).
Got it. Thanks for the help. Posted all info about card feat, upgrades, etc. in the gameplay thread.
FYI, Posting will slow for me from this point on for this weekend. We are having a Holiday Party for our local Society lodge and it is the whole weekend, so bot me if needed!
I will be completely off the grid from Thursday (Dec. 6) to Tuesday (Dec. 11). Please bot me as needed.
5th scenario at tier 2. If the next scenario is tier 3 then I'll tier up now.
The only upgrade I'm interested in is ally B. Gonna trade the Crow for a Frilled Lizard.
The acquired cards were
Ally 2 and an ally B
Spell 1 and 2 Spell Bs
Item 1 and 0 item Bs
4 Weapon Bs
An armor B
And a blessing B
So would someone mind explaining what this latest victory means for any changes I need to make now? Valeros has played through Adventures 1 and 2 with this group (and Assault on Absalom as a special, but for no tier advancement). Does this mean that I now advance to tier 3? And if so, what, if any, changes do I need to make? Thanks for any guidance you can give me.
If you want to upgrade to tier 3 cards during the next adventure you'll need to tier up. But you can play 1 more scenario before you have to.
Barring some reward from the scenario we just played you don't make any changes other then possibly a deck upgrade.
Would there be any reason to play another scenario before tiering up?
And tiering up doesn't bring any new feats (powers, skills, roles, etc.)?
The next scenario is the first part of Adventure 3. You could play it at tier 2 and get an extra card upgrade of tier 2 or less. Assuming we find one you want.
And tiering up gives nothing new until we hit tier 4 and get a Role.
The main advantage to tiering up is being able to upgrade to tier 3 cards.
And tiering up gives nothing new until we hit tier 4 and get a Role.
The main advantage to tiering up is being able to upgrade to tier 3 cards.
I would call that untrue. Until you Tier up, you won't start earning more Power, Skill and Card feats either. After your first scenario in a given tier (that's your character's Tier, that is) you earn a Skill Feat, then after the second you earn a Power feat, then after the fourth you earn a Card Feat.
Tiering up sooner gives you more feats quickly. Also, you generally want to be at least the same Tier as the adventure you're playing, as you're not allowed to pick deck upgrades that are of an Adventure Deck Number higher than your character's Tier. So if any of you choose not to Tier Up, you won't be able to pick AD3 cards yet.
Tiering up later has the benefit that it allows you to play more scenarios than you would otherwise be allowed to, since you can play up to 6 scenarios before you're forced to Tier-Up. However, if you do not intend to play in another adventure with your character (not counting Specials, which you can choose to not count for Tier Progression), there's no real benefit to be gained here.
The standard practice among most players is that you Tier Up at the same time as you move to a new adventure, which is the expectation of the designers. The "Slow-tier-up" and "fast-tier-up" options are largely just allowed so that 4 scenario adventures or 6 scenario adventures can be printed, as well as allowing a character who came in mid-adventure to catch up faster.
So would someone mind explaining what this latest victory means for any changes I need to make now? Valeros has played through Adventures 1 and 2 with this group (and Assault on Absalom as a special, but for no tier advancement). Does this mean that I now advance to tier 3? And if so, what, if any, changes do I need to make? Thanks for any guidance you can give me.
All you have to do is indicate whether you wish to progress to Tier 3 or not; nothing else changes for now!
Actually, there's one important change. If you ever have an empty deck slot (such as from banishing a card mid-scenario, or when you gain a card feat), you may now refill the empty slot with a card with an Adventure Deck Number that is 2 or more lower than your Tier. In other words, you no longer are forced to take Basics if you end up losing cards or increasing your deck size; you are able to take any Deck B or Deck 1 card from your class deck.
Maybe next scenario will have locations requiring us to banish a spell to close. If so I'm calling dibbs.
Banishment as costs to close don't really turn up much in Mummy's Mask; the easiest way to banish cards would be to hand your spells off to another player (like Cure to Valeros or Darago), or Trade them for something that will banish itself (like an arcane-only spell).
Very helpful, thx. Valeros will tier up.
I'll be offline from tomorrow until late Tuesday. Lini is going to take care of botting me. If we finish the scenario and have upgrades to choose:
Valeros: next skill feat +1 to CHA
Card upgrades: only interested in tier 3 cards, ok in any order:
Weapon 3: replace Greatclub with Shadowless Sword
Armor 3: replace Stanching Buckler with Diviner's Blight
Blessing 3: replace Blessing of Admodeus with Blessing of the Midnight Lord
Hi, running late for a flight today so won't be able to check Gameplay for a bit. Feel free to bot if needed.
My apologies for the slower pace of scenario updates; it may continue for the next two and a bit weeks as we approach the holiday period.
From the 24th-27th (more like the 23rd-26th for your timezones) I'll be entirely unable to make update posts. After that, I'll be able to update more frequently for the duration of the holiday period, New Year's Eve excluded.
I think we get a skill feat after this latest scenario (first one at tier 3), in which case Valeros will take +1 CHA.
For card upgrades, Valeros is only interested in tier 3 cards. Did we get any (aside from the Spell 3s, which I'm sure the rest of you will enjoy!)?
Congratulations; and a couple of Item 3s were gained. A good haul!
Also, I'd like to amend my earlier post; I will now be unable to update from the 24th-29th.
Hey, will finish up my upgrade in about 24-28 hours, but almost certainly taking the Spell 3. With there being 3 of them and 3 casters, sounds like it'll be fine.
This would have been a great scenario for the reward of upgrading 2 cards.
Skill Feat +1 to Wisdom.
Card upgrade Spell 3 (Fireblade out, Divine Blaze in.)
Note that after the next scenario my power feat will be weapon proficiency. At that point I would like to start using the sunburst market for a weapon and taking the Natron Fang loot.
Valeros takes Skill Feat +1 to Charisma.
Not sure about whether or not to take an Item 3 card upgrade. Any advice welcome. I like the looks of Mask of Stolen Mien, but don't really want to give up any of my existing Item cards (Hat of Glamour, Candle of Comity, and Quick Change Mask).
Good job everyone!
Skill Feat: +1 INT
Card Upgrade: Spell 3 (Replace Augury with Scrying)
Also, FYI, today and tomorrow might be slower for me. It's the home stretch of finals week and my assignments are unpleasant...
This would have been a great scenario for the reward of upgrading 2 cards.
Skill Feat +1 to Wisdom.
Card upgrade Spell 3 (Fireblade out, Divine Blaze in.)Note that after the next scenario my power feat will be weapon proficiency. At that point I would like to start using the sunburst market for a weapon and taking the Natron Fang loot.
I will happily hand over Natron Fang. Nice weapon.
Valeros is going to skip a card upgrade.
As with last time:
* Trade Stanching Buckler for Akhentepi's Armor
* Trade Greatclub for Natron Fang
* Trade Mindblade for Neferekhu
Not using Sunburst or any of the other Traders.
Skill Feat: +1 Charisma
Card Upgrade: Spell 3: Replace Cure with Restorative Touch
I haven't been doing these since we got back, since I've been much busier as the year nears its end. However, it saves me some headache when I writeup the Chronicle Sheets later, so let's catch up on reward summaries.
Please let me know if any of these aren't correct. :)
REWARD SUMMARY -- SCENARIO 3-2A: RAID ON THE WAREHOUSE
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Item 2 + Card Feat (Spell)
bigguyinblack // Lini - Blessing 1 + Card Feat (Spell)
GM Andrew // Grazzle - None + Power Feat (Spell)
Abraham Z. // Valeros - None + Card Feat (Ally)
REWARD SUMMARY -- 3-2E: MAYBE YOU SAW THIS COMING
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Spell 1 + Tier Up & Die Bump
bigguyinblack // Lini - Ally B + Tier Up & Die Bump
GM Andrew // Grazzle - None + Tier Up & Die Bump
Abraham Z. // Valeros - None + Tier Up & Die Bump
REWARD SUMMARY -- 3-3A: HIDDEN IN THE STACKS
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Intelligence)
bigguyinblack // Lini -Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Wisdom)
GM Andrew // Grazzle - Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Intelligence)
Abraham Z. // Valeros - None + Skill Feat (Charisma)
^ Grazzle's skill feat should be Charisma and the power feat should be a card feat. XD
Bleah. Copy-paste issues. Thank you.
One correction: Valeros card feat after 3-2A was Item, not Ally. And he took an Item 2 upgrade for that new open Item slot.
Relevant post is here: https://paizo.com/campaigns/ACGCaGPluToAdventure31SerpentsInTheDeepByYewsta nce/gameplay&page=16#767
Thanks! You two are lifesavers. That was me missing that post when I reviewed, rather than a copy-paste.
Amended summaries below...
REWARD SUMMARY -- SCENARIO 3-2A: RAID ON THE WAREHOUSE
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Item 2 + Card Feat (Spell)
bigguyinblack // Lini - Blessing 1 + Card Feat (Spell)
GM Andrew // Grazzle - None + Card Feat (Spell)
Abraham Z. // Valeros - Item 2 + Card Feat (Item)
REWARD SUMMARY -- 3-2E: MAYBE YOU SAW THIS COMING
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Spell 1 + Tier Up & Die Bump
bigguyinblack // Lini - Ally B + Tier Up & Die Bump
GM Andrew // Grazzle - None + Tier Up & Die Bump
Abraham Z. // Valeros - None + Tier Up & Die Bump
REWARD SUMMARY -- 3-3A: HIDDEN IN THE STACKS
AAUGHWHY // Darago - Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Intelligence)
bigguyinblack // Lini -Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Wisdom)
GM Andrew // Grazzle - Spell 3 + Skill Feat (Charisma)
Abraham Z. // Valeros - None + Skill Feat (Charisma)
FYI, I'll be out of town this weekend for a family get-together. I'm leaving pretty late tomorrow (around 4 PM my time, about 16 hours from this post) so I should be able to take my turn. But after that, my posting will probably slow way down and may even stop. Though, at the pace we've been going, I may actually be back by the time my turn comes up again.
Card feat: Weapon proficiency
Upgrade: None
Trader: Trading amulet of mighty fists at sunburst market for a weapon and trading the weapon for Natron Fang loot.
Tactics discussion about next scenario
This one is actually not that complex.
When we acquire a boon we want to display it unless it is really useful. We can't win until 8 boons are displayed.
Boons are 1d4 harder to acquire but an alternate option of acquiring them is to summon and beat a Silver Chain Smuggler.
Dispite my fears summoned Silver Chain Smugglers don't summon copies. So it is a moderate combat with a good chance of dealing 1 poison dmg to you. It also has an AYA effect that might banish a boon so it is risky. Especially at Tooth and Hookah.
Lastly Tooth and Hookah has 2 named allies we want to acquire before closing the location.
There is no villain in this so no specific reason to spread out. And 3 of us have Binder's Tomes. This might be a good scenario for us to group up. And we could focus on Tooth and Hookah first so we know how many turns we have left for the other locations.
Power Feat: +1 Hand Size
Upgrade: Armor 3
Do note the incredibly low number of banes during this scenario. There are only 6 monsters (plus another 6 including the henchmen), 9 barriers and 33 boons (including the 2 added allies). Less than 25% of the boons available need to be displayed, so there's a lot of breathing room, with very positive locations.
There's also a bonus deck upgrade on offer for the reward. A lot of adventures in later seasons tend to have one scenario per adventure that's basically "Here's the time to get those deck upgrades you may have missed", which is nice.
Power feat: +1 to ally benefit (now 1d6+2)
Power Feat: +2d4 vs. Undead Banes
Card Upgrade: Item 3 (If anyone else wants this, they can have it)
Tactics: I like Lini's suggestion to stick together. Lots of allies, so if we can get our Binder's Tomes out, that's massive. That said, the Smoking Den gives us a buff when it closes, and with so many boons, we're bound to find lots of fuel for the bury power. Maybe we should start there?
Agreed, I think we should start at Smoking Den, blast through it to get its power, and then move on to Tooth and Hookah.
Were people going to use their characters for the upcoming specials (I'm not)? Or is our boxrunner wanting a break after this scenario for gameday stuff? Just want to know for planning purposes. :)
I'm not using Valeros for the special. Fine with me to continue playing our table while the special is going on if it works for everyone else.
I have not been made aware that anybody will be using their characters from this table in the Special; I intend to continue Box Running this table unless there is a request from a player for a full pause.
With that said; I anticipate a slowdown either way. My priority will be my 2 tables of the Special I am involved with, so my updates may be slower as a result, and I know that more players will have more on their plate as a result.
I'll be travelling for the next 4 days. I will attempt to update this table as I get changes during that time, but updates will be infrequent and lack the use of the format-cleaning script until I'm back.
3rd tier 3 scenario so no feat.
Upgrade 1:
Upgrade 2: Wow. Nothing. Maybe one of the spells if something higher then B is left. Not even sure about that.
Upgrade 1: Spell 3 , Spell 3
Upgrade 2: Spell 2 , Blessing 3
Upgrade 1: ,
Upgrade 2: ,
If I get my first choice for Upgrade 1, I'll move down to my second choice for Upgrade 2.
Upgrade 1: , ,
Upgrade 1: , ,
So what does this all mean in terms of what upgrades we all actually get? Still not really clear on how you resolve these die rolls...
Also, where am I in the feat progression? I think maybe this was scenario 3 of tier 3, so no feat? But I'm not really sure.
As far as I know, this was everyone's Scenario 3 of Tier 3; after the first adventure, I believe everyone progressed at the same pace as everyone else. If you have reason to believe otherwise, let me know, but that's my memory from the Chronicle Sheets and posts thus far.
As a result, no feat.
As for resolving the dice rolls... I'm not sure how to read Grazzle and Lini's posts, that seemed to have posted Spell 3s as both their first and second preference for their first deck upgrade? (I must be misreading that, because that's defeating the point of rolling dice if you're just rolling the same dice multiple times?)
Unless they're listing their upgrade preferences in general under 'Upgrade 1', and 'Upgrade 2' was referring to if they got none of their Upgrade 1 preferences?
Anyway, it's a bit hard for me to figure out, but unless you want further discussion I propose one of the following 2 distributions...
(By 'even split' of loot, ensuring everyone gets at least 1 of their first preferences)
Valeros -> Blessing 3 & Weapon 3
Darago -> Item 3
Lini -> Spell 3
Grazzle -> Spell 3 & Spell 2
(By strict roll results, based on my uncertain reading of intent)
Valeros -> Blessing 3 & Weapon 3
Darago -> Spell 3 & Item 3
Lini -> None
Grazzle -> Spell 3 & Spell 2
I would appreciate clarification as to the intent of Grazzle and Lini's listed deck upgrades. I'm assuming Upgrade 1 is a set of desired Deck Upgrades, rather than a priority list of what they want for their first Deck Upgrade, which is how I initially read it (and I believe is what Darago and Valeros did). As it happens, there seems an inconsistency somewhere.
My roll was due to only wanting a spell 3 but we had 2 of them so I rolled for both under the hopes that I would get at least one.
As it happens I was beaten by both Darago and Grazzle on both rolls. I'm assuming Grazzle rolled twice for the same reason.
I'm fine with the strict roll results.
Since Valeros gets both a Weapon 3 and a Blessing 3 by either interpretation I'll post accordingly, but if anyone feels they are not getting enough upgrades I'm happy to yield either of them.