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I like Occult Adventures, but the fact that the TK blast damages the object thrown means that now certain game mechanics now need to be known. Here are some examples. How many marbles and caltrops come in a bag? What is the hardness and hp of the various coins? I suppose that most of them only really matter for PFS. What are your thoughts?


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my thoughts are a jester's outfit and a ridiculous juggling routine using lead sling shots. Hecklers get what they deserve.

Grand Lodge

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I've started to look as thicknesses and HP of items as soon as the playtest started up. I also like to ask the GM as to whether an enemy had dropped their weapon or not, and always keep sling bullets and pebbles on my character at all times.

As for character concepts, Profession Courtesan and tear away clothing has interesting aspects....


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Nohwear wrote:
I like Occult Adventures, but the fact that the TK blast damages the object thrown means that now certain game mechanics now need to be known. Here are some examples. How many marbles and caltrops come in a bag? What is the hardness and hp of the various coins? I suppose that most of them only really matter for PFS. What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are that if PFS requires that much nitpicking and removal of judicial oversight from the GM, then PFS is evil and should be eliminated posthaste.


Nohwear wrote:
I like Occult Adventures, but the fact that the TK blast damages the object thrown means that now certain game mechanics now need to be known. Here are some examples. How many marbles and caltrops come in a bag? What is the hardness and hp of the various coins? I suppose that most of them only really matter for PFS. What are your thoughts?

No. They really don't.


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Just pulling off a random website that sells marbles, there are 80-90 5/8 inch marbles in a one pound bag.

If the information was requested by a player, I might move myself to cobble something up. I imagine if PFS requires this level of detail for the new class, someone might spend 10 minutes slapping something official together. Otherwise, I'm sure a GM could wing it.

Sovereign Court

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Calling it 50 per bag makes tracking simple. Same as special ammunition for archers, etc.


Michael_Hopkins wrote:

I've started to look as thicknesses and HP of items as soon as the playtest started up. I also like to ask the GM as to whether an enemy had dropped their weapon or not, and always keep sling bullets and pebbles on my character at all times.

As for character concepts, Profession Courtesan and tear away clothing has interesting aspects....

So Issehei from High School DxD?


KaiserBruno wrote:
Michael_Hopkins wrote:

I've started to look as thicknesses and HP of items as soon as the playtest started up. I also like to ask the GM as to whether an enemy had dropped their weapon or not, and always keep sling bullets and pebbles on my character at all times.

As for character concepts, Profession Courtesan and tear away clothing has interesting aspects....

So Issehei from High School DxD?

Dress Breaker! ;)


graystone wrote:
KaiserBruno wrote:
Michael_Hopkins wrote:

I've started to look as thicknesses and HP of items as soon as the playtest started up. I also like to ask the GM as to whether an enemy had dropped their weapon or not, and always keep sling bullets and pebbles on my character at all times.

As for character concepts, Profession Courtesan and tear away clothing has interesting aspects....

So Issehei from High School DxD?
Dress Breaker! ;)

Can they long range sunder? XD

Silver Crusade

Zwordsman wrote:
graystone wrote:
KaiserBruno wrote:
Michael_Hopkins wrote:

I've started to look as thicknesses and HP of items as soon as the playtest started up. I also like to ask the GM as to whether an enemy had dropped their weapon or not, and always keep sling bullets and pebbles on my character at all times.

As for character concepts, Profession Courtesan and tear away clothing has interesting aspects....

So Issehei from High School DxD?
Dress Breaker! ;)
Can they long range sunder? XD

Only disarm and trip targeting feats so far...

Sczarni

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Nohwear wrote:
What is the hardness and hp of the various coins?

I wouldn't think that a coin would have more than 2hp, since that's as much as a light blade. As far as hardness...

Gold has a hardness of 5.
Silver has a hardness of 8.
Bronze has a hardness of 9.

Meanwhile, your glass marbles would have a hardness of 1 and 1hp.


While I agree that glass would be 1/1, glass marbles, not so much. You can drop a glass marble from a 5 story building and watch it bounce repeatedly, and at best, have spiderweb fractures on the inside. They're much tougher than glass, though I think caltrops are a better tool to use with the blast. :P


Why are you buying ammo to begin with? Just grab rocks, pens, leaves, spit, etc.


Sphynx wrote:
While I agree that glass would be 1/1, glass marbles, not so much. You can drop a glass marble from a 5 story building and watch it bounce repeatedly, and at best, have spiderweb fractures on the inside. They're much tougher than glass, though I think caltrops are a better tool to use with the blast. :P

That's because many marbles aren't made of glass - more often then not, they're made of a stronger material like agate, steel, and these days polymers.

Drop an honest-to-god glass marble from atop a building and it'll probably crack substantially, if not shatter.


By the way, Marbles are sold in Pathfinder in bags weighing 2 pounds.

An average Marble, which is either Clay or Glass, weighs approximately 5-6 grams. Assuming, then, that the average weight is 5.5, that equates to 165 marbles per every 2 pound bag.

An average Marble is also about 16mm in diameter, or roughly 5/8 inches, which means that a bag of Marbles should have approximately 1HP/2 Marbles, so each Marble has effectively 1/2 Hardness and 1/2 HP (so pretty much anything is going to damage 'em).

So every hit to a bag of Marbles is going to destroy twice as many marbles as the damage dealt, give or take.

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