Sundering with Natual Weapons


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

Let's say I have 5 primary natural weapons and I can full-round attack with all five. I might be thinking of an archetype or class that can do this instead of everyone, but can I make 5 sunder attempts instead as a full-round attack, all at highest base attack bonus?


Here are part of the rules for the Sunder Combat Maneuver.

The PRD wrote:

Sunder

You can attempt to sunder an item held or worn by your opponent as part of an attack action in place of a melee attack.

None of the Sunder feats I could find on www.d20pfsrd.com mentioned making attacks at the highest bonus. It is possible there is an archetype that allows you to do this though.

Good news is you can make 5 sunder attempts on a full attack action. That should provoke 5 AoOps though unless you have the proper feats.


Yes, if they are all primary then yeah it works.


Yes. If you have 5 primary natural attacks they Can all be used to sunder if you want them to.
Often a Big weapon made out of adamantine Will be a better solution since it Will Ignore hardness.

Liberty's Edge

Cap. Darling wrote:

Yes. If you have 5 primary natural attacks they Can all be used to sunder if you want them to.

Often a Big weapon made out of adamantine Will be a better solution since it Will Ignore hardness.

Formally, adamantine will ignore hardness up to 20. Hardness 21 and high still applies at full value.

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Cap. Darling wrote:

Yes. If you have 5 primary natural attacks they Can all be used to sunder if you want them to.

Often a Big weapon made out of adamantine Will be a better solution since it Will Ignore hardness.

+1

They are all made with the same bonus the OP would use to make a natural weapon attack.

Silver Crusade

What determines hardness and by how much?


zanbato13 wrote:
What determines hardness and by how much?

The material and construction of the weapons. Typical metal weapons have hardness of 10, wood weapons have hardness of 5, and natural weapons have no hardness.

A mithril sword, though, would have hardness of 15, and an adamantine one hardness 20.

Grand Lodge

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Howie23 wrote:
Cap. Darling wrote:

Yes. If you have 5 primary natural attacks they Can all be used to sunder if you want them to.

Often a Big weapon made out of adamantine Will be a better solution since it Will Ignore hardness.
Formally, adamantine will ignore hardness up to 20. Hardness 21 and high still applies at full value.

Correction: Hardness 20 and above apply at full value. It ignores hardness of less 20, not less than or equal to 20. Adamantine weapons do not bypass the hardness of adamantine.

Dark Archive

Magic bonus also adds hardness and HP to items so a +5 iron full plate will not be affected by adamantine as its hardness is now higher then 20. same thing with some iron weapons.

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