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Facebook has a somewhat larger budget, and to be honest, Paizo shouldn't need to employ that kind of feature because of a vocal minority.Good points Ernest. What about some sort of block posts from this poster feature?
People see a problem and a trend, people delete it from their very eyes (and all posts from said agitators) and carry on. FB allows this.
Also, while sticks and stones may break my bones, posts on the internet from strangers shouldn't really impact your life in any meaningful way if you aren't like a 5 year old or something.
I know it doesn't roll off the tongue...I'll work on it...
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Good points Ernest. What about some sort of block posts from this poster feature?
People see a problem and a trend, people delete it from their very eyes (and all posts from said agitators) and carry on. FB allows this.
For Firefox and Chrome, look HERE
In general, if your posts are a problem, the Paizo staff will send you a message, either via email or boards PM.And they are very polite about it, by the way.
Well, that explains why your posts have become so readable over the last months. :p
Facebook has a somewhat larger budget, and to be honest, Paizo shouldn't need to employ that kind of feature because of a vocal minority.Good points Ernest. What about some sort of block posts from this poster feature?
People see a problem and a trend, people delete it from their very eyes (and all posts from said agitators) and carry on. FB allows this.
An ignore function is one of the most requested forum features. There is a third party script which works out fine ( only one person on it for me and, man, is the place suddenly better ), but official support would be appreciated, as in everything relating to Paizo. ^^
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Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.
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Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.
What some people call "Misbehaving" others of us find to be the most interesting and amusing posts on the board.
This is Paizo's board, much like when people hang out at my house, it is my house.
Last night, my friends came over and we drank heavily and played Cards Against Humanity because we are all off tomorrow. It was great and horrible at the same time.
The expectations of decorum and courtesy in the room were...low. And good times were had by all.
Now before my daughter went to bed...same people, very, very different conversation.
Where Paizo decides to put the bar of decorum in their house is fine. But let us not pretend that going past the bar can't have value or merit.
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Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.
Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
Who's this Trevor you're talking about?
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Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?
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Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
Its funny you should mention this. I have been accused of being a Paizo "Superfriend" and from my perspective, Paizo staff are more likely to come down on those of us who speak up on their behalf, in an inappropriate manner, that those who speak out against them. I suspect, as a result of this thread and its predecessors, that any difference in moderation is rather merely a matter of perception.
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Its funny you should mention this. I have been accused of being a Paizo "Superfriend" and from my perspective, Paizo staff are more likely to come down on those of us who speak up on their behalf, in an inappropriate manner, that those who speak out against them. I suspect, as a result of this thread and its predecessors, that any difference in moderation is rather merely a matter of perception.Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
I guess we frequent different thread types, because I must admit I never noted you much before. No, I am talking about the one person on my ignore list, who constantly attacks people who criticise Paizo game design decisions and gets away with it all the time. I guess the passive-agressive "Oh, I'm just joking, but really I am making a personal attack" attitude he prefers simply flies under the mod radar.
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Aww, how come I never get polite emails from the staff about my shenanigans? I try to cross the line every now and then...
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"Royalist" lol
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Some of us are here in the office but we're busy preparing for PaizoCon. mathpro18 is correct, all moderators here are Paizo employees with regular full-time jobs doing other things. Note that not every staff member has moderator privileges because not everybody has the temperament, time or inclination for it.
and some of us, are just not fit to be moderators
like myself, and many of the regulars among the users within these forums.
Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.What some people call "Misbehaving" others of us find to be the most interesting and amusing posts on the board.
This is Paizo's board, much like when people hang out at my house, it is my house.
Last night, my friends came over and we drank heavily and played Cards Against Humanity because we are all off tomorrow. It was great and horrible at the same time.
The expectations of decorum and courtesy in the room were...low. And good times were had by all.
Now before my daughter went to bed...same people, very, very different conversation.
Where Paizo decides to put the bar of decorum in their house is fine. But let us not pretend that going past the bar can't have value or merit.
Yeah there is that problem, misbehaving being fun, for entertainment. I know I've been flagged when I am not misbehaving, some people are very sensitive.
I guess we frequent different thread types, because I must admit I never noted you much before. No, I am talking about the one person on my ignore list, who constantly attacks people who criticise Paizo game design decisions and gets away with it all the time. I guess the passive-agressive "Oh, I'm just joking, but really I am making a personal attack" attitude he prefers simply flies under the mod radar.Its funny you should mention this. I have been accused of being a Paizo "Superfriend" and from my perspective, Paizo staff are more likely to come down on those of us who speak up on their behalf, in an inappropriate manner, that those who speak out against them. I suspect, as a result of this thread and its predecessors, that any difference in moderation is rather merely a matter of perception.Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
*Pats on back*
Yeah I've seen that a bit.
Good posts.
Did some digging. Here is the non-broken link for the ignore feature:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p3rb?Ignore-v4
V4 forever!
Gorb, I asked you to stop using my name, much like I asked you to stop making jokes about my dead parents to try and get a rile out of me. You didn't comply with both those requests.
So guess who gets the first ignore, which will never be revoked?
You!
*click*
Good thread.
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@3.5 Loyalist: You know if you ignore posters that cause problems...you will never see the posts that get threads locked....which will lead you to create more threads like this one. Really it is just a vicious cycle.
Naa, Gorb doesn't get threads locked much. He gets away with a lot of snark, but that is no longer my problem (tee hee!).
This will in all likelihood be the last one of these (unless there is a lot more ridicu-locks in the future).
I can break the cycle! And have a good time.
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Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.
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Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
I was trying to work out if you had a goateed double from the opposite universe.
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Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
I think "Rabid Defender of 4E" would be a better title. ;)
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Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
I think they were refering to the "Pathfinder/Pazio Shill"...you are defintly the Number 1 "WotC shill" here though.
I think "Rabid Defender of 4E" would be a better title. ;)Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
4E Loyalist. That is my vote, lol.
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Dear Trevor,
It's funny how when people (eg. staff) ask you of something, you fart in their face, wrap yourself in some faux human rights defender flag and pretend you're some underdog hero fighting against the oppression. In fact, you seem to draw some insane joy in being the obstruction.
But when YOU ask anybody of something, it's DEAD SERIOUS and not following your requests results in DIRE CONSEQUENCES of being, erm, ignored. Complete with the obligatory "You're gone forever from my life, I won, you lost, muhahahahahaha" private message (no, I'm not kidding).
And now you're not even able to retort :)
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Complete with the obligatory "You're gone forever from my life, I won, you lost, muhahahahahaha" private message (no, I'm not kidding).
You must be all broken up about this. What a loss.
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Honestly, I find the Paizo mods far too lenient for my tastes. I was a mod on one of the bigger Resident Evil communities for a long time, and while we got nowhere near the volume of traffic Paizo does we got a lot of bad posters. It was tiring, stressful and draining having to do it day after day for years. Any extra prestige I got from it was not nearly enough to make it enjoyable, especially since I was only working there as a favor.
Frankly, I would have banned a lot of the people here for there actions. I find it incredibly rude that when the staff here basically say, 'Look, we're desperately trying to get ready for a massive event, please behave for a weekend' that some members decide to be asses about it. It would be so much easier to ban those posters, and would be exactly what I would do.
We're here because Paizo has chosen to create a community for us to interact in - it's there ball, there rules, and I'm quite happy with that. Although I am definitely going to look into that ignore function - there are a few people are, frankly, too damned creepy to want to read every again.
I'd be fine with Paizo locking fewer threads - just ban the posters derailing them and they'll probably get better anyway.
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The one kind of people I dislike more than actual trolls are netcops. :-/
Frankly, I see little merit in banning people.
Merely opening another shiny new sockpuppet account is just a couple of clicks away... and this would lead to an arms race I doubt Paizo is willing to enter.
Yes, people who are being disruptive may come back again and continue to be disruptive. I'm not entirely sure how that's worse than letting them stay and continue to be disruptive.
In my experience, one of three things usually happen - the person leaves, either deciding they're not wanted or they're too good for the forum, the person returns to continue to be an ass or the person returns under a new alt and behaves, knowing that it's not impossible for them to be banned. The first is most likely, the second tends to happen with only a small number of dedicated trolls who were causing problems anyway, and the third doesn't happen as often as I'd like. But that is my personal experience.
I do think people need to realize that the blame doesn't stand with evil teams of moderators, hunting the forum for threads to lock and users to accost, but with problem users causing problems for everyone else.
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Woah woah woah, if anybody deserves to get a fricking title for being a shill, I think we can all agree it ought to be me.Hey, where's my 'Untouchable Shill' forum title?Ignoring is for "people or topics you don't like," people actively misbehaving should just get booted.Sometimes those are the same people, only that, ahem, they shill for the company and attack people who criticise some game design decisions. So they are not touched by the staff.
Well played, sir. Well played.
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Dear Trevor,
It's funny how when people (eg. staff) ask you of something, you fart in their face, wrap yourself in some faux human rights defender flag and pretend you're some underdog hero fighting against the oppression. In fact, you seem to draw some insane joy in being the obstruction.
But when YOU ask anybody of something, it's DEAD SERIOUS and not following your requests results in DIRE CONSEQUENCES of being, erm, ignored. Complete with the obligatory "You're gone forever from my life, I won, you lost, muhahahahahaha" private message (no, I'm not kidding).
And now you're not even able to retort :)
Not true. I believe that now that I am responded, he can see my post and therefore how heartbroken you are.
Also, from my experience many people say they put you on ignore, but miraculously they seem to see posts that they want to refute.
It's an internet miracle!
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Even IP bans can be gotten around, I'm afraid. Although it's usually pretty easy to spot a proxy IP.
Honestly, I find the Paizo mods far too lenient for my tastes. I was a mod on one of the bigger Resident Evil communities for a long time, and while we got nowhere near the volume of traffic Paizo does we got a lot of bad posters. It was tiring, stressful and draining having to do it day after day for years. Any extra prestige I got from it was not nearly enough to make it enjoyable, especially since I was only working there as a favor.
Frankly, I would have banned a lot of the people here for there actions. I find it incredibly rude that when the staff here basically say, 'Look, we're desperately trying to get ready for a massive event, please behave for a weekend' that some members decide to be asses about it. It would be so much easier to ban those posters, and would be exactly what I would do.
We're here because Paizo has chosen to create a community for us to interact in - it's there ball, there rules, and I'm quite happy with that. Although I am definitely going to look into that ignore function - there are a few people are, frankly, too damned creepy to want to read every again.
I'd be fine with Paizo locking fewer threads - just ban the posters derailing them and they'll probably get better anyway.
When they banned someone, did they send them the message "YOU DIED"?
The one kind of people I dislike more than actual trolls are netcops. :-/
Hands in the air, keyboard criminal!
That's what IP bans are for, isn't it?
Umm... Dial-up or DSL connections tend to get assigned a new IP on each connect. Would you care to ban a whole adress range, effectively banning all customers who share the same provider?
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The one kind of people I dislike more than actual trolls are netcops. :-/Hands in the air, keyboard criminal!
More like the "Hurrdurr, if I'd be a mod, I'd ban everyone" kind of crowd.
Yeah, excessiveness is never cool. Adolescent power fantasy, but never cool.
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Gorb, I asked you to stop using my name, much like I asked you to stop making jokes about my dead parents to try and get a rile out of me. You didn't comply with both those requests.
So, do you feel that one should be able to do or say pretty much anything you like on a company's message board, with no moderation whatsoever?
Also, can we call you T Wilson?