Tiago Oliveira |
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He can't by RAW. The wild shape allows to assume the form, and not the type or any other functions or abilities, besides "climb 30 feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, and scent." If you should have the ability to fertilizer females of the specimen, the spell text should specify this.
Ramza Wyvernjack |
He can't by RAW. The wild shape allows to assume the form, and not the type or any other functions or abilities, besides "climb 30 feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, and scent." If you should have the ability to fertilizer females of the specimen, the spell text should specify this.
Right, so he can't chew, because it doesn't specify that he can. Neither can he purr or waggle his tail. Of course they won't put something like that in a book, it's a mix of common sense and gm fiat.
Can he pee while in dog form, yes he can, so he has a pee-pee.
Tiago Oliveira |
Tiago Oliveira wrote:He can't by RAW. The wild shape allows to assume the form, and not the type or any other functions or abilities, besides "climb 30 feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, and scent." If you should have the ability to fertilizer females of the specimen, the spell text should specify this.Right, so he can't chew, because it doesn't specify that he can. Neither can he purr or waggle his tail. Of course they won't put something like that in a book, it's a mix of common sense and gm fiat.
Can he pee while in dog form, yes he can, so he has a pee-pee.
However, he can do all this in the humanoid form (maybe not waggle the tail), he is not winning new abilities.
And ok, the can pee, but it will be a humanoid pee and not a dog pee.
BuzzardB |
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Let him do it and even sell the eggs. Them have his customers find him and want their money back because he sold them human bird crossbreed spawn babies. Plus they should come at him with an angry mob because clearly he is an agent of Rovagug/Lamashtu.
Yes! Somehow...in SOMEway Lamashtu should get involved in this.
Guys this is plotline gold in the making.
kmal2t |
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I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Ramza Wyvernjack |
Ramza Wyvernjack wrote:Tiago Oliveira wrote:He can't by RAW. The wild shape allows to assume the form, and not the type or any other functions or abilities, besides "climb 30 feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, and scent." If you should have the ability to fertilizer females of the specimen, the spell text should specify this.Right, so he can't chew, because it doesn't specify that he can. Neither can he purr or waggle his tail. Of course they won't put something like that in a book, it's a mix of common sense and gm fiat.
Can he pee while in dog form, yes he can, so he has a pee-pee.
However, he can do all this in the humanoid form (maybe not waggle the tail), he is not winning new abilities.
And ok, the can pee, but it will be a humanoid pee and not a dog pee.
The trait that you keep the most basic bodily functions isn't an ability, that's like saying his fur won't keep him warm fluffwise, because it doesn't say it functions that way.
The polymorph school also says:
"While most of these should be obvious, the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed."
So it's up to gm if he decides that "reproduction" is an /ability/ he doesn't lose.
Btw, do we keep the ability to poop, it doesn't say. How much can we eat, if I change into a large bear, do I eat as much as a medium human, it doesn't say.
Why can we get breathing in a new environment as a free ability when we turn into an aquatic or burrowing creature, but not the other basic bodily functions that were too crude and obvious to be mentioned or questioned?
Psion-Psycho |
I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?
mcherm |
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Definitely let him do it. Wait until just after the eggs hatch (just before he can sell the birds). Then, if he is of a good alignment, have him be visited by an elder from the church. "You are a respected member of our community, so I hate to bring this up with you, but we performed an augury which predicted that you are in peril of losing your immortal soul. The augury suggested (and I assume there must be some mistake) that you would SELL YOUR OWN CHILDREN INTO SLAVERY." See what he does.
If he's playing an evil character who wouldn't mind having the church tell him that he's wrong, then he can pass by an old gypsy woman or soothsayer on the street who cries out to him: "The gods have told me to warn you . . . a most terrible misfortune will befall you if you ever SELL YOUR OWN CHILDREN INTO SLAVERY!"
Either way, the point is that it's an opportunity for interesting role playing. It gives the player a strong nudge to have his character experience a change of heart when he realizes what he is doing. But, of course, if he DOES have a change of heart, then what is he going to do with the baby Axe Beaks? A perfect adventure hook. The thing just writes itself.
BuzzardB |
kmal2t wrote:All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Uhhh i'm pretty sure out of those 4 only Half-Dragons are the result of breeding with other species.
Psion-Psycho |
Psion-Psycho wrote:Uhhh i'm pretty sure out of those 4 only Half-Dragons are the result of breeding with other species.kmal2t wrote:All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Going from actually mythology both the Centaur and Minotaur are the offspring of a dude porking an animal.
Adamantine Dragon |
Let him do it and even sell the eggs. Them have his customers find him and want their money back because he sold them human bird crossbreed spawn babies. Plus they should come at him with an angry mob because clearly he is an agent of Rovagug/Lamashtu.
This.
Not only poetic justice, but you can argue this is pure RAW.
BuzzardB |
BuzzardB wrote:Going from actually mythology both the Centaur and Minotaur are the offspring of a dude porking an animal.Psion-Psycho wrote:Uhhh i'm pretty sure out of those 4 only Half-Dragons are the result of breeding with other species.kmal2t wrote:All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Actually I think in mythology it was a white bull that had sex with a human woman to create the Minotaur.
I was, however, referring to D&D/PF creatures. Fairly certain they are not the results of inter species breeding. And Driders specifically are the result of poisons and elixers.
Elosandi |
kmal2t wrote:All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Half-Dragons, like Half-Celestials and Half-Fiends were justified in that their non-mundant parent is a magical being, and thus can breed with almost anything.
Centaurs and Minotaurs are their own species of magical beast, not the result of a humanoid and animal attempting to reproduce normally.
and I'm not sure about what the setting neutral Driders are, but they're considered abberations, and in the forgotten realms are the result of a person being changed into one.
Psion-Psycho |
Psion-Psycho wrote:kmal2t wrote:All i have to say to the whole "actual genetic makeup would be incompatible" is half-dragons, Centaur, Minotaur and those dark elf spider centaur things. If the genetic make up does not work y did it with those examples?I could see the argument that he is not truly genetically a bird so his actual genetic makeup would be incompatible to reproduce with a bird...however I see no reason he couldn't tap that bird ass. You could either let him know it isn't possible or let him bang birds so many times before he figures it out himself.
And thus he earns his true nickname: Chickenf*ucker the Bold.
Half-Dragons, like Half-Celestials and Half-Fiends were justified in that their non-mundant parent is a magical being, and thus can breed with almost anything.
Centaurs and Minotaurs are their own species of magical beast, not the result of a humanoid and animal attempting to reproduce normally.
and I'm not sure about what the setting neutral Driders are, but they're considered abberations, and in the forgotten realms are the result of a person being changed into one.
Well im to lazy to check out the bestiary for the axe beak so if there not a magic beast then i believe there is a way to make them such in which case it would be a viable option of taking the poor thing to pound town after a candle lit dinner and a silent image viewing (movie).
Diasent |
Does he realize that female Axebeaks eat their mates?
Actually they don't. From the Bonus Beastiary:
Axe beaks are relatively social creatures, forming small
groups in which both males and females hunt together. They
nest in immense mounds made of sticks, branches, leaves,
and whatever else they can scavenge (including the bones
and equipment of previous meals), with each nest used by
a large group of axe beaks. Females typically lay clutches
of 1d4+1 eggs once per year, which the parents take turns
keeping warm for 2 months. At the end of this period, the
axe beaks break hatchlings out of their shells. These
young are fed by their parents for 2 more months
before they begin hunting on their own.
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GM Gristle |
Let him do it and even sell the eggs. Them have his customers find him and want their money back because he sold them human bird crossbreed spawn babies. Plus they should come at him with an angry mob because
clearly he is an agent of Rovagug/Lamashtu.
My vote for best answer.