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So,
My wife, my mom, and kids were leaving the Texas State Fair today; I was at work.
My wife is going straight in a parking lot.
This guy pulls a right in front of her, and almost sideswipes her; she beeps, and he flips her off, I mean like really gesticulating.
I was at work.
Then, they get to the exit, and he stops and gets out of the car on my wife. There's a traffic guy there, (my mom said he looks like the black guy from the Miller light commercial)
and so this fat f$&!er gets out of the car on my wife, and she rolls down the windo and she says, "what."
And he says, "I just want to know what the f@!+ your problem is," and my wife says "I was on the straightaway; I had the right of way." So HE says "I didn't have a yield sign," like you dumb woman driver.....and she says, "learn the rules of the road! go home and study them." And then the big black guy tells him "just....just go away. Now. Just go away."
So he goes away, and my wife calls him a "stupid hick."
I just don't know what the f$&& is wrong with people. Who flips off women? Who gets out of their car on two women and some kids?
What the f+%* is wrong with people? That's all I'm saying. Nobody has any f#!~ing chivalry or manners no more. F$&!ing douche. I really wish I could call this guy out old school style.
I would totally do that. IF your wife was recklessly driving which I really have no way of knowing. Chivalry shmivalry.
If this guy is a douche it's because he doesn't know how to drive, if that's the case.
I dunno, I'm a stickler when it comes to rules of the road. Near where I live there's an intersection that has two lanes that turn left, then another intersection (under the overpass) that immediately turns right. So many people turn left in the leftmost lane then sort of "float" over into the right lane to turn right at the second intersection. I want them to just die.
There seems to be this contagion in my town where people don't use turn signals to signal a lane change and this also has me wishing a pox upon them and frequently using my horn.
Never gotten out of my car to curse someone out though.
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Wait...women are allowed to drive in Texas?
She should have pepper-sprayed him and junk punched him through the window for good measure! Although I'm saying that as someone who walks a few miles to and from work six days a week and has a lot of pent up anger toward a@+~!@+ drivers.
Here in California, there are laws against getting out of your car and threatening somebody. It's a Road Rage law, and the cops can not only fine you, but take you away. When somebody decides to act this way, I just hold up my phone and say, "Shall we call the cops? I'd be happy to let them sort it out." Most of them run off like the cowards they are, tail tucked between legs.
I also am a stickler for rules of the road, but I don't see that as an excuse for acting like a bully. There is no excuse for letting yourself get so worked up by a simple misunderstanding that you start flipping people off, and then step out of your car to threaten them. Especially women.
That said, I share the pain. I am a relatively poor guy who lives smack-dab in the middle of not one, but three very wealthy neighborhoods. Four, actually, now that I think about it. The amount of privilege and entitlement I have to deal with on a daily basis, just to pick my kid up from school, is incredible. People cut each other off, refuse to look where they are going, speed when kids are in the crosswalk, and indulge in pretty much every bad vehicular behavior you can imagine, and all because they think they are entitled to, due to wealth. As you can imagine, it makes for a lot of damage to really nice cars. Matter of fact, a kid was hit in a crosswalk the other day. I think he is for the most part okay, but you get the point.
Growing up, I lived a few towns over, where the place was filled with motorheads, and sorry to use the word, but, rednecks. It still is to this day. You used to worry about all the teenage boys running you over in their muscle cars. Now, though, you worry about the middle aged moms in their titanic SUVs who care a lot about their own children, but will gladly run you off the road and injure your children, then drive off in a hurry. Sirens constantly blazing in that town. Occasionally one of the dads does what you described: Gets out and threatens your wife, her mother, and your children.
You know, somebody at my job says to me sometimes that I ought not call the rednecks from my hometown "rednecks." She wants me to say "blue-collar." I would agree, as I am a pretty liberal guy. But when it comes to my old hometown, well, I spent my whole youth being beaten up, chased down, cursed out, and picked on by those idiots. So I feel I have every right to call them just as they acted.
I would totally do that. IF your wife was recklessly driving which I really have no way of knowing. Chivalry shmivalry.
If this guy is a douche it's because he doesn't know how to drive, if that's the case.
I dunno, I'm a stickler when it comes to rules of the road. Near where I live there's an intersection that has two lanes that turn left, then another intersection (under the overpass) that immediately turns right. So many people turn left in the leftmost lane then sort of "float" over into the right lane to turn right at the second intersection. I want them to just die.
There seems to be this contagion in my town where people don't use turn signals to signal a lane change and this also has me wishing a pox upon them and frequently using my horn.
Never gotten out of my car to curse someone out though.
He was wrong.
The car going straight has the right of way over a car turning right onto the same straightaway. My wife was right, and he was a d#$%#%!, and he tried to justify his assininity by saying he didn't have a yield sign. He took a right hand turn and almost sideswiped her.Also, getting out of your car on women and children is a punk move. Much less flipping women off and cursing at them.
He was wrong.
The car going straight has the right of way over a car turning right onto the same straightaway.
Also, getting out of your car on women and children is a punk move.
Fair enough, like I said I'm only getting your (your wife's) side of the story and wanted to reserve judgment.
I take umbrage with the idea that having women or children in the car makes it more of a punk move than without. I'm not going to be less angry at a (perceived) slight just because there are women or children involved.
The guy got out of the car to yell at someone in traffic when he was in the wrong. He's an ass. Your wife's gender has no bearing on this, only his wrongitude :)
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Because dudes have more upper body strength than women and children, and the inference is one of menace.
That makes it a punk move.
Now, if it was another dude, (say....me), who wasn't aged or injured somehow, then it wouldn't be a punk move. It'd be a hot time in the old town tonite.
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Because dudes have more upper body strength than women and children, and the inference is one of menace.
That makes it a punk move.
Now, if it was another dude, (say....me), who wasn't aged or injured somehow, then it wouldn't be a punk move. It'd be a hot time in the old town tonite.
That seems kind of sexist to me. Women can't defend themselves and/or are intimidated easily?
I could go into a diatribe here but I won't, this really isn't the place.
I feel your pain man. People are jerks.
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I want some kinda credit from the moderators for being good here.
You guys are from Texas? Didn't there used to be a law that says you could shoot someone just because "they needed killing?" She should've fallen back on that one. Texas = shootin' irons!
I want some kinda credit from the moderators for being good here.
Not a moderator, but
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Because dudes have more upper body strength than women and children,I always wonder about this. It's true that, on average, men have more upper body strength than women. Thing is, they also have more lower body strength than women.
Oh...and the guy didn't get out of his car in spite of the fact that he was confronting a woman. He got out of his car BECAUSE he was facing a woman.
Sounds like your wife handled it well. They guy had to shout for her to go away because he was in the wrong and looking stupid.
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As a general rule to life i always assume people are idiots until proven otherwise. That way when they act stupid it's to be expected. Plus when the rare occurrence where someone isn't an idiot it's like a little treat. It helps maintain my Zen.
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Because dudes have more upper body strength than women and children,I always wonder about this. It's true that, on average, men have more upper body strength than women. Thing is, they also have more lower body strength than women.
Oh...and the guy didn't get out of his car in spite of the fact that he was confronting a woman. He got out of his car BECAUSE he was facing a woman.
Sounds like your wife handled it well. They guy had to shout for her to go away because he was in the wrong and looking stupid.
Tazer= the great equalizer for humiliation as opposed to lethal force.
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I've been in this situation before. I don't remember it, I was 18 months old. Mom and grandma were in the car and grandma was the one making the right turn from the left lane. Sideswiped a big tough guy.
My dwarf grandmother (4'5") stormed out of her car and flew at the guy in a wild rant because he "hit her car" (read: he obeyed traffic laws instead of swerving into other cars to get out of her way). He apparently got scared of the little old lady and drove off real fast.
So, yeah, gender isn't necessarily an indicator of weakness. Nor is height. But being in the wrong does seem to dictate who goes off the cuff.
That seems kind of sexist to me. Women can't defend themselves and/or are intimidated easily?
It doesn't sound sexist to me. It sounds accurate. Change it to "Most women" and "more easily" and you pretty much have it right.
Seems that the wife handled the situation well. She doesn't appear to have been intimdated at all.
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Naah, she was pissed off.
She rolled down the window on him and said, "wut."
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Then, they get to the exit, and he stops and gets out of the car on my wife.
He is totally wrong getting out of his car and is escalating the situation. There is no excuse for that.
If your wife had a gun in the car and shot him dead, and I was on the jury, assuming it went that far, I would clear her.
Was there ever a time when people were not jerks?
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How to fix all this this:
rivalry of manners
Anyway, in the past three weeks I have gotten honked at (on my bike) while obeying the law AND acting in the safest possible manner, then not honked at twice for doing something stupid and dangerous. WHAT F#!%KIING GIVES>
In Oregon, we have this law: you can't go until pedestrians are a full lane away from the lane you are moving through. Today, TWICE, I broke this law because my bike is so slow to speed up (so by the time I had made it to that crosswalk the pedestrians were in the lane I was in). I gave them pained expressions as apology?
This all reminds me of this one time, late 'eighties, my then-girlfriend and I were exiting a crowded parking lot after a concert.
This dumb mullet wearing rocker hick in a monster truck decides he wants to go ahead of us. My girlfriend is driving, and I'm shotgun. We have right of way, so this guy gives me the "roll-down-the-window" gesture.
I thought he needed directions or something. I'm a nice guy, so I rolled it down.
He leans out his window and says, "I'm going to go next, and if SHE hits my truck, I'm going to kick YOUR @#$!"
Well, we were pretty flabbergasted. He took off ahead of us before we could respond, so whatever. But it tells you what people can be about, sometimes.
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Glad no one got hurt Heathy, and that your wife kept a level head and refused to be intimidated. People who don’t understand or flagrantly abuse road rules (even / especially within a carpark) annoy me, and someone like this douche bag, in the wrong and then wants to make an issue of it really pisses me off.
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There might be some merit to arguing whether it’s any worse for a man to try to threaten and intimidate a woman over another man (though I doubt it), but this guy showed he was a first class jerk when he tried to intimidate a parent of either gender with their kids in proximity. You don’t use intimidating tactics, foul language or aggressive gestures when there are kids around even if you think they did something wrong. This guy knew that he could be as much of an asshat as he liked because no self-respecting parent is going to get into a situation where their young kids might get hurt or witness a smack down if there is any other option.
The guy was a total douch and probably only escalated his douchbagery because the car was only filled with women and children. As this happened in Texas you're lucky the douchbag didn't draw a concealed weapon.
Sorry to say, but your wife was lucky. Yesterday in Rome something similar happened....the guy went back in his car and waited for the (middle aged) woman to be walking out of her car, than he charged her with his car and trampled her, stopped and went backward striking her a second time before fleeing.
Carabinieri (a police corp) got him at least.
Only had one of these. Guy rant a stop sign coming out of the parking lot , almost hit me and flipped me off. I flipped him off back. He pulled over into a parking lot. I pulled over. He got out of the car. I got out of the car. He looked at me, got back in the car and left.
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Remember Heath there is no cure for stupid.
No, but the douche driver could do everyone a favor and Darwin Award himself out of the gene pool.
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Only had one of these. Guy rant a stop sign coming out of the parking lot , almost hit me and flipped me off. I flipped him off back. He pulled over into a parking lot. I pulled over. He got out of the car. I got out of the car. He looked at me, got back in the car and left.
Yeah, been there. Of course when I get out I'm ususally leaning on my cane. This cane.
I use it when I'm out walking the dog too. Makes the big scary fat guy look less threatening in the neighborhood when a) he has a Chihuahua on a leash and b) is using a cane.
Yes, I cheat. :P
More seriously, Heathy, glad your wife's ok.
This sounds very much like how I got into my third accident. I was going straight, the guy was coming opposite direction and turned in front of me, despite the fact that I had the right of way. I ended up hitting his passenger's side rear door, and this ended up being quite the fight in court, although what hurt was that my insurance company took his side saying that I was going too fast because I hit the passenger's rear door, not the front passenger's door. I'm still pissed off about that, and I am eager to turn into oncoming traffic so I can get hit and sue.
Ahh, the stories.
Lots of azzhats on the roads. I'll get ticked off, and occasionally act poorly. Mostly I'll hold up both hands at a stop in the WTF? gesture and/or shake my head. Some of the worst ones get the bird. Wish I was better tempered.
My wife on the other hand gets really torqued about rude/reckless drivers. She would have read that guy the riot act.
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Remember Heath there is no cure for stupid.No, but the douche driver could do everyone a favor and Darwin Award himself out of the gene pool.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Ever notice that our laws make it easier for people to not Darwin themselves out?
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see also the Gaussian distribution of intelligence as reference.
I have had this happen to me twice. The first time I was about 20 and this woman was sandbagging through a subdevelopment at 10 below the speed limit. I will admit I may have followed a little closer than I should have, but nothing that was dangerous- as evidenced by her next move, which was to suddenly pull off the road into someone's front lawn and wait for me to pass. If I'd really been that close there's no way I could have avoided hitting her. Fifteen minutes later, I was standing on my friend's driveway chatting with a group of people when she pulls up and starts screaming at me out the side of her car. Apparently she had canvassed the neighborhood searching for my car. She tried to get me to tell her where I lived (uh, no, crazy lady) and then threatened to call the police (good luck with that). She also had her son in the back seat. Classy!
The second time, seven years later, was the day before my wedding when I was driving up to my parent's house. As I entered their neighborhood, I turned down a side street. This woman in a beat-up old car decided I turned too close in front of her. Unlike the previous situation, where I could sort of see her problem even if she really overreacted, I have NO idea what this woman was going on about as I was nowhere near her vehicle when I turned. I had a month's worth of pent-up wedding planning stress, I hadn't slept in two days, I was running an hour late for a luncheon my grandmother-in-law was hosting, and this woman thought she was entitled to follow me home and accost me. My dad eventually managed to get us to stop screaming at each other... >_> It wasn't mature, but it sure as heck was satisfying.
Anyway, long story short, people are crazy douches, people are EXTREMELY self-entitled when they feel The World Has Wronged Them, gender doesn't matter (both my crazies were female), and honestly the best thing to do is just whip out your phone and start dialing the police and see how fast the bullies can run. That's my plan for if this ever happens to me again. (I desperately hope not.) Possible auxiliary point: people in my hometown are more screwed up than the usual crop of people.
I'm sorry this happened to your wife- it's a horrible experience- but awesome of her holding her ground like that.
I just wish I was there so bad.
This s&*& doesn't happen when I'm there.
Whoa dudes! Did somebody call my name?
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Just recently, one of my father's friends was driving his kid to elementary school, and was going really slowly through the school zone (it's marked 15), and the guy behind him was visibly angry about it. My father's friend pulled into the school parking lot with his kid, and the guy followed him. They waited in the car, and eventually the guy got back in his car.
When he thought the coast was clear, the other driver was in the parking lot waiting for him. The other driver was a much bigger guy, and beat him within an inch of his life in front of a group of children, and put him in the ICU.
Fortunately, this asshat is in jail now, but f!!&ed up stuff goes on out there. My dad's friend is still in physical therapy.
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Protip: Never use your car horn in anger. It doesn't accomplish anything positive and is likely not the intended use.
In many jurisdictions, it's actually a ticketable violation. Car horns are meant to warn of immediate danger. If that danger has already passed (the person has already cut you off, etc), honking your horn is a violation. I wish they would actually enforce it sometimes.
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Protip: Never use your car horn in anger. It doesn't accomplish anything positive and is likely not the intended use.In many jurisdictions, it's actually a ticketable violation. Car horns are meant to warn of immediate danger. If that danger has already passed (the person has already cut you off, etc), honking your horn is a violation. I wish they would actually enforce it sometimes.
BIG cultural difference between California and New Jersey. Californians don't honk, New Jerseyans honk all the time to let off steam. When I moved from CA to NJ, it took me a few months before I learned not to take it personally. I've also heard from people who moved from NJ to CA and notice how much quieter the roads are--and how the communication between CA drivers scare them.