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She looks exactly like Margaery, hope she doesn't get old in the seasons 4-5. Does she even appear in A Clash of Kings? Tough it seems the second season will have more time for character development.I'm very interested to see Brienne of Tarth. :D
The way George R.R. Martin describes her almost any time she appears, makes me think he could have some personal issues with her. hehe...Btw... did you Guys already hear this cool interpretation of the Opening Song?
Brienne has been cast.
http://screenrant.com/game-thrones-brienne-tarth-gwendoline-christie-season -2-mcrid-122781/
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She looks exactly like Margaery, hope she doesn't get old in the seasons 4-5. Does she even appear in A Clash of Kings? Tough it seems the second season will have more time for character development.I'm very interested to see Brienne of Tarth. :D
The way George R.R. Martin describes her almost any time she appears, makes me think he could have some personal issues with her. hehe...Btw... did you Guys already hear this cool interpretation of the Opening Song?
Brienne has been cast.
http://screenrant.com/game-thrones-brienne-tarth-gwendoline-christie-season -2-mcrid-122781/
They are going to have to do some serious make up work on that girl to make he appear as ugly and homely as the character.
They are going to have to do some serious make up work on that girl to make he appear as ugly and homely as the character.
Well, Tyrion is not as ugly as he should be (eye color, bended legs, etc.)
They don't seem to mind that much about getting the ugly characters faithfully pictured.
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Reading the books now.
Have seen the entire series and loved every bit of it.
Am utterly obsessed.
Would be really interested to see if the massive buzz for Game of Thrones can translate into higher numbers of people deciding to give fantasy roleplaying a go. I hope so.
Any talk of an AP that focuses heavily on court intrigue?
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Oh, and btw, this Tumblr is a source of much merriment and mirth:
Winter is Coming, B%&%#es.
(remember to replace the swear symbols with the word b i t c h)
It works best if you start from the very beginning and go chronologically, tbh. Gathers the best fan-made memes from around the globe, tbh.
Anyone know when Season 1 is on DVD...
Previously, like with Deadwood, I think HBO didn't release DVDs til only a couple months before the next season premiered. That way they could promote them both at the same time.
As successful as GoT has been, maybe they'll release season one in time for Christmas this year, but I'm not counting on it.
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The more I think about the long term gameplan for the show, the more I get worried. Child actors growing up. Keeping actors onboard. Keeping HBO's funding.
There's going to have to be some flexibility to the adaptation as it goes along, but hot damn if they stay as strong as Season 1 managed to be, necessary changes or not, I'll be more than happy.
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That's a good idea but they really need to make 'DROGO : THE EARLY YEARS' first.
As someone with no familiarity with the books, Drogo's death came as a bit of a shock. Ned's death was foreshadowed anviliciously (and, given that almost every decision he made was a terribly naive one, pretty much asked for), but Drogo's death was so casual and unexpected (warrior of a thousand battles gets a scratch and dies of infection) that it totally caught me off-guard.
It's probably a terrible idea to get invested in any of the characters, since I've heard that Martin bumps them off fairly readily, so I'll hold off 'shipping a growed-up Arya and the blacksmith-bastard-Baratheon-boy quite yet...
Season 2 started filming today :-) The first scene shot:
IMDB has April 15, 2012 as season 2 episode 1 preimire.
Total guesswork based on this year's premiere date. HBO won't finalise the date until a month or two before hand (i.e. not until well into 2012). But it is very likely to be in that ball-park.
As for the DVD, HBO are working on it right now. I believe there's artwork available on the internet somewhere (the cover shows Mark Addy as King Robert, which is an odd choice; I'd have gone for Sean Bean).
HBO normally release the DVD set a month or two before the next season, so on that basis the Season 1 DVD may not be out until February or March 2012. However, I've heard very vague and unreliable rumours that HBO are aware that they could shift many more copies if they release before Christmas this year and are considering it.
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Season 2 started filming today :-) The first scene shot:
Hopefully it's the Frey kids playing 'Cross the Bridge' with Rickon and a mammoth Shaggydog. :excited:
Drogo didn't just get infected. The shepherd witch Maz Duhr dressed his wounds after Dany and Mormont failed their sense motive checks when she told them she was a healer.
Now that filming has started, we are hoping for more casting news soon-ish. We have Stannis, Melisandre, Brienne, Davos, Margaery and Cressen, and half-confirmed reports about Asha Greyjoy (renamed 'Yara' apparently) and Matthos Seaworth (Davos' son, a very minor role), but there's still a lot of reasonably big roles to be filled in: Hoster and Edmure Tully, Mace Tyrell, Balon and Aeron Greyjoy (though I can seem them pushing Aeron back to Season 3 or 4; he doesn't do much in ACoK at all), Roose and Ramsay Bolton, possibly Ser Amory Lorch* , maybe Lord Wyman Manderly**, Craster, Gilly, Qhorin Halfhand, Ygritte, Jeyne Westerling and maybe some of her family, possibly Shireen and Selyse Baratheon, Patchface and Meera and Jojen Reed.
* I'd assumed he'd be written out, but with Conan Stevens likely to play a reduced role as Gregor due to his HOBBIT commitments, I think Lorch might be needed to take over some or all of his storyline and then Stevens can return for Season 3.
** I would have left him out, but he plays a much bigger role in the books later on and frankly NEEDS to be played by Brian Blessed.
HBO have been pretty consistent throughout the process: it's 10 episodes. Some commentators have suggested more, but HBO are apparently very keen on having set, predictable budgets for their shows every year, which means increasing episode orders is very, very unlikely, and probably impossible now they've committed to filming.
They had to change Asha's name cause they won't use Jojen and Meera, Gurm got too excited with the actress who plays Osha. Asha and Osha simultaneously would be to confusing for the ordinary viewer.
Three casting announcements (well, one, plus two confirmations of things already rumoured):
Nonso Anozie as Xaro Xhoan Daxos
Kerr Logan as Matthos Seaworth
Gemma Whelan as Yara Greyjoy (formerly Asha)
And yes, the name change is a bit daft, as previously discussed.
Looks like Jalabhar Xho, not Xaro
I think it's highly unlikely Jalabhar will appear. I also think it's likely that Ros will be taking over Chataya/Alayaya's role in Season 2. So this eliminates most of the roles of colour from the series in one swoop. I can see their logic in changing the ethnicity of the Qartheen so they can make things more varied (and Qarth is quite far south, further south than Dorne, so it never made sense for the people there to be very pale).
That said, the actor looks like he could have made a great Strong Belwas (who should also show up this season).
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Most amazing link you'll ever click on.
Be ready for intense laughter! (if you have a condition that forbids laughter, don't click)
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Most amazing link you'll ever click on.
Be ready for intense laughter! (if you have a condition that forbids laughter, don't click)
That is awesome!!!
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Most amazing link you'll ever click on.
Be ready for intense laughter! (if you have a condition that forbids laughter, don't click)
I want to play this game. I really do.
Ron Perlman wants a role on the series.
If Hellboy wants a role, I say give him one. Given his commitments on SONS OF ANARCHY, it'd have to be a brief, memorable and totally badass role, as well as one probably not cast yet (so a role that appears in late Season 2 at best). So, for me, that means Qhorin Halfhand. This must happen.
Additional casting news, though these are less-well-known names: Oona Chaplin as Jeyne Westerling, Forbes KB as Black Lorren (an ironborn raider) and Laura Pradelska as Quaithe.
Oh, and they appear to have dropped Malta as a filming location for Season 2. S2 is still using Northern Ireland, but will also be filming in Iceland and Croatia.
Croatia!! Do they need any people to die in the Blackwater I'd volunteer
Halfhand is the best choice, if not him then Tormund
Croatia!! Do they need any people to die in the Blackwater I'd volunteer
Halfhand is the best choice, if not him then Tormund
Are you near Dubrovnik? Casting for extras will begin next week, apparently there are adverts and posters going up around the city, which is going to stand in for King's Landing and Qarth.
More info at the link here.
That's a good idea but they really need to make 'DROGO : THE EARLY YEARS' first.
They just did, it's called 'Conan' :p
Are you near Dubrovnik? Casting for extras will begin next week, apparently there are adverts and posters going up around the city, which is going to stand in for King's Landing and Qarth.
More info at the link here.
:)
45 minutes flight, and my cousin lives there. I can't extend my vacation but it will be great to see the filming one weekend.
My friend lived for a year in Iceland, now I wonder if they have polar days beyond the Wall.
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This is a VERY cool move by the producers:
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgUBuuvUWEg&feature=feedu"[/URL]
That Guy was doing video reviews of each episode. He has not read the books. He had a very passionate reaction to what happened to Sean Beans character. Glad to see the producers of the show doing something nice for the passionate fans out there.
EDIT: Can someone fix the link please? I always have trouble posting links here.
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This is a VERY cool move by the producers:
That Guy was doing video reviews of each episode. He has not read the books. He had a very passionate reaction to what happened to Sean Beans character. Glap to see the producers of the show doing something nice for the passionate fans out there.
EDIT: Can someone fix the link please? I always have trouble posting links here.
Link'd!
I saw an article about the future of the series somewhere. It seems they are now planning to step away from the books more clearly, especially during season three. For some reason, that sends a shiver down my spine...
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I saw an article about the future of the series somewhere. It seems they are now planning to step away from the books more clearly, especially during season three. For some reason, that sends a shiver down my spine...
Did they say in what way? If they stick to one book/ season I can see them making changes with season 4. Since book 4 left out a bunch of characters, season 4 would be book 4 and the first part of book 5 to keep everyone insync.
I saw an article about the future of the series somewhere. It seems they are now planning to step away from the books more clearly, especially during season three. For some reason, that sends a shiver down my spine...
I'm OK with that if it makes for an interesting story. (After all, I've read the books, so I know what happens there. :) )
I saw an article about the future of the series somewhere. It seems they are now planning to step away from the books more clearly, especially during season three. For some reason, that sends a shiver down my spine...Did they say in what way? If they stick to one book/ season I can see them making changes with season 4. Since book 4 left out a bunch of characters, season 4 would be book 4 and the first part of book 5 to keep everyone insync.
One thing I read was that book 3 was not going to be one season, which makes me wonder if Book 2 and 3 might be 3 seasons.
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There might be some blurring between the end of book 2/beginning of book 3 and where the TV show chooses to end things, but season 2 is likely to cover most or all of ACoK, considering that Martin has stated that he's writing the script for the Blackwater episode of season 2, which is toward the end of the book.
That said, I imagine they'd have to step away from the books by the time they get to AFfC, assuming they don't want to confuse the viewers by having half the cast sit a season out. The question is whether they then try to get two seasons out of the combination of books 4 and 5, and whether they take from the beginning of book 6 to pay off some of the storylines that (I feel) were left unresolved by book 5 unnecessarily.
The changes they are referring to is that they might be slightly less free than the books with bringing in new characters and may instead concentrate more on the established gang.
For example, in Book 2 there are two prominent characters from Book/Season 1 who barely only appear, and we only really hear about what they are up to off-page:
In both cases the characters' roles will be widened in Season 2:
Because of this, some new characters and storylines from Books 2 and 3 may not appear or be as prominent. Though based on the casting announcements for Season 2 so far, this may not be immediately apparent :-)
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The changes they are referring to is that they might be slightly less free than the books with bringing in new characters and may instead concentrate more on the established gang.
For example, in Book 2 there are two prominent characters from Book/Season 1 who barely only appear, and we only really hear about what they are up to off-page:
** spoiler omitted **
In both cases the characters' roles will be widened in Season 2:
** spoiler omitted **
Because of this, some new characters and storylines from Books 2 and 3 may not appear or be as prominent. Though based on the casting announcements for Season 2 so far, this may not be immediately apparent :-)
That sounds good - based on their departures in season 1, I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of edits. What's your take on how they'll handle books 4-5?
That sounds good - based on their departures in season 1, I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt in terms of edits. What's your take on how they'll handle books 4-5?
At the moment it looks like Book 3 will be 2 seasons due to its significant length. However, some early Book 3 material might be at the end of Season 2 instead, and chronologically several storylines in Book 4 happen during the timespan of Book 3. And of course Books 4 and 5 take place simultaneously, and Book 5 is as long as Book 3. So it looks like the one-book-per-season rule will go out the window past Season 2 and things will have to be a bit more freeform.
At a rough guess, it'll go something like this:
Season 3: The first half of Book 3, ending with:
Season 4: The second half of Book 3, along with:
Because the second half of Book 3 would only be maybe 5-7 episodes at the most, we may also see some events from the start of Books 4 and 5 brought in at the end of Season 4 as well.
Season 5: Most of Book 4, trimming back on disposable material, and some of the first half of Book 5, again dropping elements that are too complex/expensive/redundant.
Season 6: The second half of Book 5 and the opening of Book 6, incorporating the climaxes of the Book 5 storyline that were (unwisely) held back for the start of the sixth novel, as well as storylines dropped in Book 5 that feel like they should take place within the timeframe of the rest of Book 5:
Beyond that point, I suspect there will be simplification and streamlining of the story to conclude the entire saga in 7 or, at the absolute most, 8 seasons. This may require more radical cuts to the material from Books 4-7 (or more, if the series expands again) to fit everything in. Of course, it may be somewhat optimistic to expect that many seasons, but HBO seem committed to seeing it through as long as the ratings stay high.
Interesting stuff
This would also help with a concern I've had that they will run out of source material before GRRM gets books six and seven out.
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The Bran storyline might be the most painfully drawn-out nothing-happening one in the series. My daughter is reading the series, and I had forgotten that they had split off and gone their way in BOOK TWO!!! FFS, by the end of book five, and STILL it's not *really* turned into anything? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?
Aiyiyi...
The Bran storyline might be the most painfully drawn-out nothing-happening one in the series. My daughter is reading the series, and I had forgotten that they had split off and gone their way in BOOK TWO!!! FFS, by the end of book five, and STILL it's not *really* turned into anything? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?
Well, right at the very end of Book 2 they set out on a journey, and reach their destination right at the very start of Book 5 (bearing in mind that neither Bran nor anything in the North is featured in Book 4 at all). Bran's discoveries in Book 5 then play a relatively influential role in the remainder of the book:
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The Bran storyline might be the most painfully drawn-out nothing-happening one in the series. My daughter is reading the series, and I had forgotten that they had split off and gone their way in BOOK TWO!!! FFS, by the end of book five, and STILL it's not *really* turned into anything? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?Well, right at the very end of Book 2 they set out on a journey, and reach their destination right at the very start of Book 5 (bearing in mind that neither Bran nor anything in the North is featured in Book 4 at all). Bran's discoveries in Book 5 then play a relatively influential role in the remainder of the book:
** spoiler omitted **
It's a fair point that Bran wasn't even IN Book 4, but that just points the finger back to the way Martin wrote the series, splitting the characters in two. Saying that Bran didn't appear in book 4 doesn't negate the fact that Bran's plotline went nowhere in book 4. It went nowhere because he wasn't in the book, because the author chose not to include him in the book or advance his plotline.
Martin started the plot-thread in book 2. By the end of book 5 it had just barely gotten somewhere. I'd call that slow, but that's just me. As always, YMMV.
It's a fair point that Bran wasn't even IN Book 4, but that just points the finger back to the way Martin wrote the series, splitting the characters in two. Saying that Bran didn't appear in book 4 doesn't negate the fact that Bran's plotline went nowhere in book 4. It went nowhere because he wasn't in the book, because the author chose not to include him in the book or advance his plotline.
Martin started the plot-thread in book 2. By the end of book 5 it had just barely gotten somewhere. I'd call that slow, but that's just me. As always, YMMV.
True, but this will not be a problem for the TV series (I assume this is why you're talking about it here rather than in the book forum) as the TV series will combine the timelines of Books 4 and 5 and probably strip away a lot of characters and subplots that don't support the central narrative, so Bran isn't going to disappear for a season (which given how fast the kids will be growing up, could be weird). The storyline I suspect will still feel strung out, but nowhere near as much so as in the books.
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True, but this will not be a problem for the TV series (I assume this is why you're talking about it here rather than in the book forum) as the TV series will combine the timelines of Books 4 and 5 and probably strip away a lot of characters and subplots that don't support the central narrative, so Bran isn't going to disappear for a season (which given how fast the kids will be growing up, could be weird). The storyline I suspect will still feel strung out, but nowhere near as much so as in the books.It's a fair point that Bran wasn't even IN Book 4, but that just points the finger back to the way Martin wrote the series, splitting the characters in two. Saying that Bran didn't appear in book 4 doesn't negate the fact that Bran's plotline went nowhere in book 4. It went nowhere because he wasn't in the book, because the author chose not to include him in the book or advance his plotline.
Martin started the plot-thread in book 2. By the end of book 5 it had just barely gotten somewhere. I'd call that slow, but that's just me. As always, YMMV.
Fair enough. I actually still haven't seen the show. I don't have HBO, but I'm looking forward to seeing it whenever it comes out on DVD. It's a good chance to smooth out things like that.