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Has WizKids changed their replacement method? Between having to pay for shipping and not even guaranteeing you will receive a replacement mini of the one you sent it, I just never have bothered to send broken minis to WizKids.

Fortunately broken minis have been very few and far between for me.


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I finally opened up one of my (two) cases of Dungeons Deep. Didn’t have the chance yet as I’ve been re-organizing my miniatures (still have a long ways to go).

But I am actually very happy with the paint jobs of the set. Even the faces of the dwarves, which I was nervous about from what has been said, looked good. Not the best of the set by any means, but better than I was expecting.

As for the dressings, they were smaller than I expected, but then when thinking about it, they were correct on scale. All were great paint jobs, my favorite especially being the sarcophagus. I received one of each for all except the Idol, which I received two.

The only issue I had was one of the (medium) minis popped off the base. But nothing was broken, even the nubs were still at the bottom of the feet. A little super glue and it will be as good as new.


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Sounds like you have it covered!

One of my GMs will be attending as well, one who plans to go mythic in his campaign, and I really wanted to bring him over to the booth and show him the books. I’ve already told him about them and his interest is piqued.

Thanks for taking those extra steps in making sure you have copies at Gen Con. :)


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Jason Nelson wrote:

They pushed our ship date back by almost a month, so the books are now scheduled to arrive on July 23.

That's really cutting it close for Gen Con. If the date remains the same (23rd) you will have them available for the con? For not only just backers of the KS, but to purchase, as well?


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Well, whatever the process is. My point was what was on Paizo’s website isn’t necessarily ‘all’ of the copies of the Mythic books. He could go to LG’s website to see if there is more.

And case in point, I did check and the option to add ‘hardcover’ or ‘hardcover/PDF bundle’ is an option on their website to add to your cart.


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You may want to try Legendary Games website directly. The copies “Unavailable” here are just the ones Paizo had purchased to sell on their website. LG may not be sold out on their website.

Also, if you are going to Gen Con, LG will have a booth and I am sure you will be able to purchase copies there (as supplies last).

To Jason:

For the backers who commented under the update on the KS “We wish to pick up our copies at Gen Con”, do we need to bring anything proof-wise when picking our copies up at your booth, or just giving our name (with ID) and/or email is sufficient?


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Cleanthes wrote:
Love all 3, but especially the Dancing Girl. I'm surprised that one hasn't been covered in prepaints before! And the digital image looks great. Important to get a good paint job on that one's face, though....

Will have to echo Cleanthes on all aspects, the Dancing Girl is my favorite, and also that the face is extremely important to have a good paint job.


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FLite wrote:

no, 5 or 6 cannot pick.

But often players can swap a character to get into the tier desired. Very rarely you can wind up with a X.5 APL, which is the only time you can freely decide if you want to be X or X+1.

Ok, this is what I was thinking in you didn’t really have a choice anymore (although didn’t know about the being able to choose with X.5).


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hobbun wrote:
But from my understanding, you don’t have the choice to play up anymore, it is whatever the average comes out to be at the table.
Its pretty common to get an average in between levels and then get a choice, particularly with experienced character with binders full of characters swinging the vote.

Ok, I guess I will need to reread the PFSORGP rules, but I had thought the change was made within the last year or two that you don’t have the option to choose up or down, even if you fall in the middle with the average. There are specific prerequisites that decide whether you play up or down.

Like if you go with a 7 person table (which is still legal), it is automatically playing up.


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But from my understanding, you don’t have the choice to play up anymore, it is whatever the average comes out to be at the table.


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Nefreet wrote:

There are a couple tricks you can take advantage of to maximize your Day Job results as well, such as using the Crafter's Fortune spell (if you're of a class that can cast it), or building a Street Performer Bard (which doubles your Day Job check result).

Wow, too bad that type of bonus is only accessible by being a Bard.

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There is the "Prosperity" Convention Boon that increases the max cap of your Day Job, to I believe 300gp (which could be doubled to 600gp if you were the aforementioned Bard).

I have this boon and it is very nice.


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Michael Dean wrote:

I had to miss last year due to a wedding, but I'm coming this year. So, if I'm hearing correctly, to even get in the booth area to look at merchandise, you have to stand in line that winds outside the exhibit room?

In '12 and '13, I remember big lines for the cash register but you could still look at stuff.

Yes, that is correct, there is a line to get into the booth now as well.

I mean it isn't terribly long, but if you are on a time schedule for an event, or you only want to peruse the wares or talk to one of the Paizo staff, it can be a factor in deciding whether you want to, or can, wait.


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labmonkey wrote:
Personally I don't mind if the Tavern set has a large number of non-combatants. I'm hoping for at least one barkeep, a couple tavern wenches, a bard, a cook, a bouncer, a mysterious old man (to give out quests of course), a stableboy, some town watch, a pickpocket, a thug (to start brawls)...I wouldn't even be adverse to off-duty townpeoples like butchers, bakers, merchants etc.

Would love to see all of those in this set. I know a few here that post would not be happy, but in our home campaigns we definitely would put all the minis listed here to use more than once.

I would actually love to see an actual horse mini on it’s own. There have been a couple shown with characters ‘on’ them, but I wouldn’t have a problem with just horse on it’s own, not in a combat pose, either.

Don’t know how many times we’ve had encounters where caravans are stopped and the horses are hooked up and even work in as being cover.


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Ah yes, I think I know the booth you are talking about. If you are facing the Paizo booth from the main hallway, it is off to the left?

I bought quite a few Star Wars minis in those bins some years back.

I was just wondering if you had any favorites (booths) to shop for single minis, as I may stop there, myself. :)

I know the dressing pieces from Dungeons Deep will probably be a hot commodity, especially the Treasure Chest and Burning Brazier. I really think those shouldn’t have been rare, but uncommon.

I just wish the inventory for them would get straightened out here on this website so they can be put up.


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Jeff,

Again, thanks for taking the time to respond. I know you are extremely busy and to respond to an issue only a few people (at least on this forum) have brought up, means a lot.

As I said before, in a sense it’s a good issue you have as it leads to being a very active and popular booth, which I am sure has led to more sales, and that’s always a good thing.

Paizo has always been a very personable company (in evidence of you posting here), but that is one of the things I am little frustrated about with the sectioned-off booth as it makes the area less-personable. And I don’t mean the staff is any less personable or friendly, but it makes them less accessible.

Over the years at Gen Con I would make multiple visits to your booth throughout the con if only with the intention to talk to very friendly staff or to purchase something. Although usually even when going with the intention of only talking to someone, I would always find myself looking once again at your wares and normally picking up yet another purchase(s).

But now with the line outside, it makes it less likely for me to make those impulse visits (and purchases) as I have to wait through the line just to get into the booth. And where I understand why, it doesn’t prevent it from being somewhat disappointing.

And to Scribbling Rambler, maybe you were lucky on the times when you visited the booth, but it was “busy” pretty much all the times I visited, and I tried at various points of the day when I had the time to do so.

I will say I am more lucky than most as I do have early exhibit hall access, so I will be able stop at Paizo’s booth first without worry about the line, and I will make my planned purchases/pick up subscriptions and talk to anyone I am able to. But the line will cut down (or out) my impulse visits.


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Brell,

Do you already have a good idea where you plan to shop for singles? I know Paizo’s booth doesn’t carry singles (just boosters). I know of Troll and Toad, are there other booths you know of? I may peruse some of them myself.

As for how many in an encounter, the Organization (under the Bestiary) says they can be solitary, in a pair or a colonnade (6-11).


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To DM_Blake,

I'm sorry for your frustration, but I have to wonder why the players can't understand it's not a transportation/doorway spell.

Even when you explain to them that the other end opens in another dimension (and not through a floor, boat, etc) they are still adamant?


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Played this last Sunday and had a lot of fun. Came a hairsbreadth away from dying. If a party member’s familiar didn’t heal me, I probably wouldn’t have stabilized.

Also, without giving anything away, I will just say the rewards are quite nice for this scenario.


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That's really disappointing to hear, especially as it sounds like that is what you are already planning for future Gen Cons as well and it appears you won't be looking into other options.

Thanks for the response, Jeff.


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I have been attending Gen Con for many years and the Paizo booth has been one of the few booths I've made multiple visits (and purchases) over the years.

But I was a bit distressed last year that it became very difficult to gain access to the booth, that a line needed to be formed 'outside' of the exhibit hall and it was never a short line to get in.

Now in a sense it is nice to see that Paizo has gotten to be so popular where it may be necessary, but also frustrating as I wasn't able to visit the booth for that short amount of time I sometimes had between events.

Does Paizo have a larger booth this year where it will be possible to just walk into the booth openly like prior years, or will there be a line done again like last year?


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The minis look great, all ones I will be using. Can never get enough town guards and one of our campaigns the arch-nemesis is an Orc Lord, so always need new types of orcs.

I'm looking forward to getting a good look at the case incentive.


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Cat-thulhu wrote:

Hobbun the chest is NOT on a base, it's a free mini. Take a look on ebay or even here on the singles (not available) but it appears to be a separate piece.

Oh, ok. That's good then. All the pictures I have seen online for the chest have shown it's on a base. And I thought I remember one of the Paizo employees mentioning earlier on that the chest has a base, but I am glad it doesn't. Not that it would have been a huge deal if it did, but it does make a lot more sense that it doesn't.

But really glad you are super happy with the set. Really looking forward to busting mine open and seeing what I got. :)


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Kalindlara wrote:
I'm having a lot of trouble saving enough for my one case - I'm really hoping that this doesn't happen to me.

Do you have a subscription? If so, the price is actually very reasonable now. Not including shipping, my case came out to around $280 ($290 with case incentive), which is the cheapest I’ve seen it online.


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Well, at least you received a bunch of dwarves, beetles, gnolls and bats. I can see any of those as a large contingent being used at once.

It’s too bad you didn’t get at least one chest. I am curious to hear what you thought of it, seeing it in person, on a base. I always thought it was a bit odd to have it attached to a base, I think it would look better if it was just by itself, like most of the rest of the dressings (besides the cauldron) are.

I know why they did so, as it doubles for the ‘hidden’ Mimic. But then you aren’t supposed to know it’s a Mimic when it’s in chest form. :)


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Cat-thulhu, that’s a bummer.

An earlier set (I think it was Shattered Star) I had received a duplicate brick in the case. But I had gotten two cases of this set so I ended up getting a full set (and more), so I wasn’t worried about it. And the second case gave me a full set in it’s own.

However, three duplicates, I can understand how that can be really disappointing. I am thinking it’s an anomaly as normally they (WizKids) are usually quite good at giving us a full set with one case.

You mentioned you were only short a few on the minis you were really keen for, but how many minis are you short in having a full set?


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I’m going to have to say it’s a little sad on how little activity this thread gets now, even with everyone receiving their Dungeons Deep product.

I remember with the older sets of the PFB line, there would be many people posting what they received for their case, or just post their impressions on the miniatures. Where we have had some impressions, not all that much. I even remember a thread (for each set) dedicated to what each person received in their case(s).

Maybe it’s because it’s a little early yet on people receiving their minis and we will get more activity. However, if not, then yes, it’s a little sad that the activity (interest?) for PFB has waned.


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CorallineAlgae wrote:
FattyLumpkin wrote:
I like it but with a map on only one side I will pass.

Same here. I won't be buying any one sided flip maps.

They aren't making these better because they don't want to upset people who bought the one sided map? Where's the progress in that? If Paizo is going to remake something, then make it better. That's like saying they won't correct errata in their books because the first print owners would be offended. It's a backwards mentality. Paizo should ALWAYS look for ways to up their game. That's how they'll keep customers loyal.

That’s a completely inaccurate comparison with the errata. With errata, the original is a ‘mistake’ and is now being corrected. With the flip-mats, the original is just fine and nothing needs to be corrected.

The reprint is just that, a reprint. And yes, not wanting to offend original buyers is a legitimate action. Why should they have to buy the new flip-mat to get the other building if this is a ‘re-print’ of the original? If that happens, then it is no longer a re-print but a new flip-mat.

If you don’t feel the tavern side is something you don’t use, that’s fine, I agree with you in not buying the flip-mat. But don’t accuse Paizo of being a ‘non-progress’ company because they don’t change the flip-mat to buildings on both sides. I think if you asked most here they would agree Paizo truly has progressed as a company and continues to do so.Also, Paizo didn’t have to reprint any of these flip-mats. This is something they are doing because many customers have asked to get access to some of the more popular maps that are now out of print. So in giving the customers what they asked for, wouldn’t you consider that progress?

And this comes from somebody who does NOT have the original flip-mat.


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Curmudgeonly, that’s great to hear that you feel it’s the best paint job of any set. Although will have to say that the dwarves are not as bad as Feiya doesn’t inspire any confidence as there were things wrong with Feiya beyond a bad paint job. :)

But I think the rest of what the others are saying (and at least myself), is we don’t want the thicker (globby) paint jobs, either, which is nowhere close to the Feiya or Queen Illeosa issues. And I guess I’m just worried that the viewpoint from WizKids will be “that is just going to happen with prepainted plastic minis, sometimes.” Considering how many sets we are in and still having the problems.


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Vic Wertz wrote:
There's just been a miscommunication here. We're working on it.

Ok, that’s good to hear Vic.

Just to speak on behalf of my post, I originally was responding off the “if we have singles to add (for the dressing minis)”.

Thanks for the reply.


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What happened to the dressing minis from the cases that were opened?

Isn't that what Paizo does, open up cases that they get from WizKids and sell them as singles?


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Vic Wertz wrote:


I'm not saying that at all! Sculpting is one thing, and painting is another. It's certainly true that what might seem to be a paint problem is sometimes a sculpt problem (melty-face Feiya, for example), and processes that improve sculpts will therefore help some of these problems. So should moving to digital sculpts help? Sure. But are digital scuplts that the only reason that Iconic Heroes look so great? Absolutely not. I'd say it's not even the *main* reason. The main reason that the Iconic Heroes sets looks so great is because they spend more time and money painting every single figure.

Vic, sorry about my late response and thanks for you reply.

First of all, I want to clarify that I am NOT someone who is dissatisfied with the line, even though it may sound like it from my recent posts in this thread. I have been a subscriber since the beginning and it's never gotten to a point where I have felt any need to cancel.

But that said, since I really do love my pre-painted plastic minis, I want them to be the best they can and therefore are disappointed when we get minis with really poor paint jobs, especially if they don't match (or come close to) the previewed pictures. And that's all I am trying to clarify, that they are recognized as mistakes and being worked on to resolve. And there have been times this has happened, like with Feiya and Queen Illeosa (although we haven't gotten those yet).

Now I am not expecting replacement minis for the poorly painted faces (which is a bit unfortunate, but understandable), but as long as you (Paizo) keeps on WizKids to improve the quality and WizKids doesn't become "ok" with the quality of the minis now, and I am stil talking about the quality of the humanoid faces again.

Because the minis in general (besides the faces) have been fabulous, and I'm not talking just the iconic line here. So I hope the lesser quality paint jobs (with the faces) have been realized and working on to be resolved, instead of a "this is just how it is sometimes".

Thanks for reading. :)


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Erik Mona wrote:


3) Not sure why dungeon dressing isn't up on the site. I'll check on Monday.

Erik, any idea yet on the time frame for the inclusion of dressing pieces for sale on the website?


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Anymore impressions from those whom have opened up their case(s)?

My actual booster case came into today, although I received the case incentive (and my iconics) on Saturday. However, I probably won't open up my case for a little while yet as I'm in the process of organizing my minis and don't have anywhere right to put the new (DD) minis.

I'm still trying to use the tackle boxes, and they work well for small, medium and some larges, but going to have to find better means for my huges and gargantuans. And there are just so many minis I have now it is going to take awhile to organize.

Edit: Also, I am interested in hearing what the status of the dressing singles. With them being rares, I know that I am going to want additionals on at least a few of them. The braziers and treasure chest pop immediately to mind. And I am sure there are many others who are in the same boat.


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Hobbun wrote:

So I guess I just don’t understand if they have the capability to paint that way with the iconic line, why humanoid faces a lot of times look quite bad in the main sets. What is done so differently in the iconic line compared to the main sets?

Quite simply, the figures in a standard booster are priced at $15.99 for 4 figures, meaning a $4/figure average, while the Iconic Heroes minis are $29.99 for 6 figures, meaning a $5/figure average, which is to say they cost about 25% more per figure. And pretty much all that cost goes into additional paint operations, including additional touch-up work.

(But that *doesn't* mean that WizKids could get Iconic Heroes-quality paint ops in the regular set if they just raised the price to $19.99 per booster; other factors also come into play here, including the limited selection and low relative volume of the IH set.)

Vic, from what I remember reading in Erik's posts previously is when the new (and improved) digital method was introduced with the iconic line, it was going to be introduced with the regular sets, as well, and therefore improve the quality of the figures overall.

But that hasn't happened with the faces of the humanoids as of yet. Are you basically saying we are SoL in regards to 'less than stellar' paint jobs (with the faces) with the main sets?

If so, that is very disappointing to hear.


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I agree.

I gave my full accounting on my feelings on the Dungeons Deep product thread, but I really feel by this time WizKids should have nailed down being able to paint faces. At least paint them where they look decent, although they ‘can’ look spectacular as shown in the iconic line.

So I guess I just don’t understand if they have the capability to paint that way with the iconic line, why humanoid faces a lot of times look quite bad in the main sets. What is done so differently in the iconic line compared to the main sets?

And yes, Dungeons Deep is the ninth main set in the line. Main set being the 45+ minis.


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Mark Stratton wrote:
Well, I do have an extra table in the afternoon that I might split one of the larger wait-listed tables to, and as we get closer, if some tables don't look like they have much interest, I can dump them for something else. :-D

Only one extra table for the 12:30 slot, Mark? I know the evening tables were always limited, but it seemed like last year there were quite a bit more 12:30 tables.


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Brell Stormforge wrote:
I just wish they would fix these ongoing issues that could have been ironed out several sets ago.

And this one line is the key right here. It would be one thing if this was the first set, second set or even third set, but Deep Dungeons is the ninth main set. I agree with Brell, this is something that could (should) have been ironed out several sets ago.

Paizo is a wonderful company. I know they truly do care, which is not what I can say for most companies. And I know Erik truly pours his heart into Pathfinder Battles being the best it can be in regards to minis. He loves this line, and it shows in his blog posts and when I've spoken to him directly. But there is only so far he can go as he can’t actually control the manufacturing process, he can only tell them what he expects and wants.

I am sure WizKids is not doing it purposefully, but there is obviously adjustments that need to be made, and I am worried if they are going to be with this many sets in.


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Galnörag wrote:
Adding my agreement to Brell, the dwarf faces look weird, smooth, and kind of creepy.

What about the faces of the other NPCs/PCs? Or is it just the dwarves that have the smooth/odd/badly painted faces?

I guess I could live with one or two minis having bad paint jobs, but if it’s the humanoid faces in general (Brell mentioned humans, elves, gnomes along with the dwarves) then that would be a real problem.

And WizKids ‘can’ paint faces well. From my iconic set #1 all of the minis look fantastic, including the faces. So it can be done. Would just like to see it done more consistently.


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Brell Stormforge wrote:

First let me say MOST of this set is GREAT. The complaint I have, mostly because it is an ongoing problem, is that WizKids keep messing up the faces of humanoids. I love playing dwarves, so I was really looking forward to the awesome sculpts of the ones in this set, but alas. Why do the WizKids painters keep caking on the face paint way too thick of dwarves, humans, elves, etc. completely ruining all of the details. It keeps happening set after set after set, who is painting these faces, Tammy Fay Baker? There are so many other Pathfinder minis that are painted so well (for prepainted) so why can they detail a gnoll face so well, but totally destroy the same kind of face they see in the mirror? I think that WizKids needs to have a expert painter sit down with whatever Chinese sweat shop workers WizKids is having paint these minis and give them a good how to paint faces class. If they could just fix the face issue Paizo minis would be darn near perfect (for prepainted). I was also really excited about the Gnome Summoner from the trade show photos, but the ones in the case don't even come close to matching the previewed ones, I'm not talking about the digital renders, sadly I know they will never match those, nor do I expect them to.

This is where I disagree. Not that it should match the digital renders EXACTLY, but they should come pretty darn close. I mean this is the whole point WizKids switched over to the new process, is it not? Also, these digital renders are the ones that are being previewed to us, what the miniatures ‘should’ look like, so this is what my expectations are (or very close to it).

I’ve only received the first set for the iconic miniatures, and they look fabulous. From my understanding, the process that is being used for them was supposed to be used from then on with all the PFB line.

However, hearing about/seeing poorly painted (blobbed) faces isn’t inspiring any confidence in me.


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Galnörag wrote:

Anyone else opening a case/brick get any boxes that didn't have a Large figure in one box? One of my boosters had 4 mini's, and none of them was large (it also didn't have the large mini plastic insert) so the box was lighter and rattlier. My set is complete, so I'm not really vexed, just odd.

Also rarity wise I probably could have used less alien tentacle large figures and more golems, based on what I'm likely to need in volume.

How was the paint job with your minis? Were they as good as the previews? Were the colors the same as the previews?


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MrVergee wrote:
Hobbun wrote:

Question, where did you get the ‘land’ pieces? Not the trees so much, but where Thistletop actually sits on. The bridge, etc?

From Wheldrake's post: "Homemade cliffs from spare blocks of polystyrene left over from a kitchen project, a knife, spraypaint & flocking "

Wow, maybe next time I should actually read the post. I usually do, but I will admit I just clicked the links this time. Sorry about that (to Wheldrake).

Thanks!


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Skeld wrote:

Hobbun -

** spoiler omitted **

-Skeld

Hmm, well how about that.

Spoiler:
Didn’t think there was a Shemazian Demon in RotRL at all, although have only skimmed over the Pinnacle of Avarice so far.

Thanks.


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I can’t speak for Galnorag’s store, but I know with Miniature Market that you can still cancel up until it ships (which is the same with any online order). But they refund your money, instead of not charging in the first place.

But I agree, it would be nice if they just didn’t charge you until it shipped.


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I know I am late to the party, but that looks phenomenal, great job!

Question, where did you get the ‘land’ pieces? Not the trees so much, but where Thistletop actually sits on. The bridge, etc?


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Unfortunately KS doesn’t allow you to read comments to a specific KS unless you have donated to it, so I can’t read them.

I’ll have to keep looking on his website to see if he opens up orders.

Thanks.


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Skeld wrote:


My group is in the 6th chapter of RorRL, so I'll soon use the Rune Giant and Blue Dragon (a couple times). I also might use the Shemhazian Demon.

Just curious, but what are you going to use the Shemhaizan Demon for?

I am going to be running this AP in the near future, and where he’s not in the book, just curious what you would be substituting/adding him in for?

If it’s needed, you can spoiler it for those who haven’t played RotRL yet.


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Hobbun wrote:

What I would actually love to see is a merchant wagon/caravan with horses. Don’t know how many times we’ve escorted merchants and have gotten into combats on the road or at a campsite.

Hobbun, there's a Kickstarter for something like that that's due to fulfill any time now. Here's a link to it. Once it's fulfilled, I'm sure they'll be available for normal purchase.

Thanks for the link.

I googled his website (TabletopProps) and saw the pictures from the Kickstarters (wagon and tent), but no written blogs or updates saying on what he plans to do.

I hope he does eventually start selling them, as I liked what I saw from the wagon KS (too bad I didn’t know about it). I especially like that you can take it apart. I also like the campfire, we have used pseudo campfires more times than I can count.


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Skeld wrote:

Isn't the next Gargantuan mini going to be a tavern bar?

-Skeld

That’s for the next set, The Rusty Dragon Inn.


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I don’t know if they look as bad as the ‘melty-face’ syndrome Feiya had. However, the miniatures in general don’t look that good. Color is off on quite a few of them (compared to the original shots shown in the previews) and they don’t look as well painted and sharp as the original pics, either.

Hopefully it’s just the pics that Miniature Market took, and not what the miniatures actually represent.


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davrion wrote:
I'm happy to see some support for "urban monsters", i.e. NPCs. I will likely use the bar far more than I've used the Rune Giant or the Deskari case incentives.

Have to agree with davrion here. In our campaigns, I have been in more situations where we’ve had combats in taverns or in town in general (with NPCs), than fighting against a Rune Giant (never fought one yet) or a CR 15+ creature.

So the tavern, as well as the common folk, will have a lot of use in our campaigns. And where I don’t think we should have multiple sets dedicated to common folk, I do hope we see them split up in future sets in general.

And I don’t think this should be the norm on case incentives involving dungeon dressings, I wouldn’t be opposed to it happening again. What I would actually love to see is a merchant wagon/caravan with horses. Don’t know how many times we’ve escorted merchants and have gotten into combats on the road or at a campsite.

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