Bill Webb wrote:
it was this or get another storage container and Krista just put her hands on her hips and frowned when I suggested we get a second one.
lol I can definitely picture this.
Bill, there is always the guest house. That would transform into a nice mini-warehouse. :)
Oh, I guess I should have looked a little harder (further down)! Great write-up from Joey Virtue.
But still willing to listen to any other recommendations/suggestions you might have. :)
I just found out last night that I may have a 6th player in my group. Originally I was going to stay with 20 point buy and maybe add (smaller)creature in each combat.
But having 6 now, what do you recommend on adding to make it more challenging? Should I lower it to 15 point buy? The only thing is with the 6th player, I don't know how consistent she will be on making it to the sessions. I don't want to make it 15 point buy and then have it hurt them when she isn't available.
For the first goblin encounters, I am thinking adding a couple of base goblins in the first one, maybe an additional Warchanter for the second and debating on an extra goblin commando for the third. What do you think?
And is there some kind of rough formula I can use to determine on what should be added?
Please feel free to steal it, Hobbun - that's what I put it up here for! I hope your game goes well.
I think my biggest issue right now is finding the maps I need. I want to do the large battle maps and a lot of them are not available (broken links).
What I am looking for is Thistletop. Just the outside level with the trees.
Great, thanks! I just need to download the remaining maps now.
I know you said that you didn’t run your players through Burnt Offerings, but still a shame you didn’t do maps for Glassworks or Thistletop as these look so good and good maps are hard to find.
Oh, and I plan to go over and donate.
It actually didn't allow me to rename it. I got the error message when clicking the link and uploading the file. But I've since rebooted my computer when trying to opening it last and it now opened fine.
It was trying to open it in my Firefox browser. I did do a "Save as" with it and it now opens in Windows Photo Gallery. Will that work if I put it on a flash drive and take it to a nearby print store and have it plotted out on a large sheet using 1" squares?
Or do I need a different program for that?
When I try to upload the Graul Homestead Ground Floor PNG version, it completely loads up and I get the message "The image (file name) cannot be displayed because it contains errors."
Is there something else I need to do? I am one who wants to take the more expensive route and print the map up on a large sheet (probably around 24"x30") and put it on a poster board.
Unfortunately I don’t have the set up using a big screen tv, but that would be nice if we had the means for that.
Are these interactive maps workable in being able to print them for large-sized maps (1” squares) and not have really bad resolution?
I am going to be running RotRL in a couple of months and there at least a few of the locations that I would like large battles maps. I’m looking at probably at least 24”x30” as of course I would need 1” squares.
Will the Interactive Maps supplied through the PDF work for this? How would I scale them up to the size I needed? And are these maps scalable?
And finally, what other options do I have if these do not work? I know of the Community Created Stuff thread, but many of the links are broken. Our gaming group has a good collection of Dwarven Forge tiles, so I’m going to try and use as much of that as possible, but dungeons that have awkward layouts I’ll go to a map if I can. The first one I’m looking at is Glassworks and then the ground level of Thistletop (with bridge and trees).
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Actually, that map that Gustavo provided a link to is really good - I wish I'd had that when I ran the Die, Dog, Die encounter. It's supposed to take place north of the cathedral square, just east of the White Deer - which is the large building right at the top of Gustavo's map. Ideally, for me, the map would show a little bit more of that building and a bit less of the cathedral square, but it's still fine to use as is. I'd place the encounter in that open area just to the south-east of the inn, where Cliff Street comes across to join Church Street.
Actually, Kalshane is right, that map is the location of the initial combat. If you look at the Town Square flip mat, the grey building with the steps is the western entrance to the cathedral, which is the same on Gustavo’s map.
But either way, you are correct in that it is a great map and is highly appreciated. It works well for those who don’t have/don’t want to buy the flip mat or want to use actual props for the tents, food carts, podium, etc.
That's a great map, GustavoMalek, but isn't "Die Dog Die" by the north gate? That appears to be a bit further south by the cathedral.
I guess you can alter the general location of the encounter, it doesn't have to be right by the gate.
Do you have the flip-mat for town square (used for the first encounter)? The other side has a gate with a road intersection that I believe should work just fine for the encounter.
Maybe I should say I am anticipating 5 players total. I’ve spoken and confirmed with three, and another one has pretty much been confirmed through one of the three I’ve spoken with.
The fifth player is a long time friend and player in our home group and I don’t see him saying no, but I actually haven’t had the chance to speak with him about it. However, I think right now it’s a safe bet we will have 5.
Also, one of the reasons I was going to go with a 20 point buy is one of the players, well, likes to be a little unique with his characters. He usually likes to play a character with several classes (doesn’t focus) and the times I’ve played with him, and we’ve hit higher levels, his characters have a hard time contributing in combat because he is so spread out.
And he says a lot of times “Oh, this is an RP character.” He loves the extra challenge, but it’s frustrating because he does hurt the rest of the party.
The irony of the situation is he is mainly our GM, and he is able to build challenging bad guys for us, which not surprisingly, he doesn’t spread way out in different classes. So he knows what it takes, he just gets bored in being too focused with his own characters doing that.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great and longtime friend, but as I said sometimes it can be frustrating.
But the reason I went off on that tangent was I wanted to explain where I do have 5 players, in a sense I have 4 ½ in regards to combat.
Now, I could be wrong in how he builds this character and actually focuses him, but he is debating between two characters. The Reincarnating Druid, which he says again will be a “RP character” or a Summoner, which he has indicated he doesn’t plan to branch off (too much) as it weakens the Eidolon too much. So I guess I will just need to see what he goes with before I make my final decision on point buy.
As for the other two who have confirmed, one is looking at a Life Oracle or Cleric (Yay, a dedicated healer!) and a Halfling Sorcerer (Yay again, a dedicated arcane caster!).
Is there really that big of a difference between 15 and 20 point buys? I am actually going to be running this AP within the next couple of months and was planning on having them use 20.
As of now, it looks like it will be 5 players.
Are you forced to ‘not’ have an adamantite haft for weapons that normally have a wooden haft, like an axe?
With this ruling, not sure why anyone would spend the large amount of funds, and most importantly, having to acquire the materials required to get anything less than a 100% adamantite weapon, with maybe the exception of a story-based weapon or RP reasons.
If I receive my orcs with the string above the arm, will WizKids being doing replacements for this issue?
I am not one who is good with making alerations/painting with my minis, one of the reasons why I buy them prepainted.
Will be playing You Have What You Hold on Sunday. And at least from the sign-ups right now on Warhorn, it looks like we are going to average out to a 6-7 subtier.
Will need to be very careful with my 4 Alchemist.
Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm now working with DriveThru on color-matching the existing card backs. They've printed a number of color samples which are currently in transit to me. This is the first step in an iterative process that will take a while.
Thanks for going through all of this, Vic. I just wish there was a way to match the size of the existing cards. You are pretty much forced to play with card sleeves, otherwise you'll be able to pick out the new cards.
I agree, I would buy it.
However, instead of making it a fold-up flip mat, have it be similar to the same material of those Gale Force Nine roll-up maps.
Yes, GF9 makes similar maps already, but these would official PF maps for the APs. :)
Your luck is much better than myself and many of my friends with DDM. Most times I could buy 3 cases and still not get within 5-6 minis of a full set. Usually it worked out to around 80-85% (tops).
With my experience, DDM was extremely poor on distribution of minis. It seemed to me it was designed for you to buy 3-4 cases. So I am a bit surprised you had such a consistent good distribution of minis.
But as for the PFB, I have heard the king has a very poor paint job on the face from quite a few people now, and that was one of the minis I was looking forward. Afraid to see what mine will look like once I get my cases.
Vernon Fults wrote:
This is exactly what I think has happened, as well. With the sets being rushed to "catch up" from Shattered Star being delayed, it is hurting them now on quality.
At least I am hoping it is the case as this would be temporary, because once they caught up, they "should" be ok. I hope it's not something where quality is slipping on a more permanent basis. But I think we need to at least look at a couple sets before we make that kind of call.
On another note, I 'finally' received my notice of shipment for my miniatures. The only problem is it only covers one case. I should have another case, as well as the two premium minis. But I'll give it until later tomorrow to see if I get another email(s) before I contact customer service.
Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper wrote:
Looks like that orc has also lost his head.
Don't worry about it. If you have a chronicle you're good.
Pretty much this.
There are missing scenarios and fame numbers that are inaccurate for my characters on the website. I've come to accept that is just how it is. It would be great if your chronicles and the information online coincided, but it's not something that is mandatory.
Your chronicle sheets are what truly matter, and as long as you have those, you are golden.
What I really wish is the PFB gargantuan dragons were bigger, more in line with the DDM gargantuans.
Yes, the PFB have (much) higher quality sculpts over their DDM counterparts, but I guess I want both. High quality sculpts and larger gargantuans. :)
And I would be ok with paying more money for them, as well.
Yes, that does sound like a complete pain to deal with. I think the most broken/missing minis I've had on all my sets is 5, and it doesn't sound like I will be attempting to replace them. I can see why yourself, or others, would be miffed.
I think they obviously don't want miniatures to have to be replaced, but I agree they shouldn't set the program up to make it difficult (therefore disouraging) for customers to do so.
How much did they charge for shipping costs? I know it can of course vary depending on where you are at, but at least it would give an idea.
I’m actually ok with them delaying it as long as they need to. I would rather the sets looks the quality that they should, than to get them out by a certain timeframe.
Also, the longer delay would be a bit of fresh air for many with the recent quick succession of set releases.
I actually wonder about this as well. I had a missing miniature in one of my Shattered Star cases, although I never contacted WizKids about it, as it was the only discrepancy of the case.
I can’t say how hard or difficult WizKids tries to make the process as I haven’t sent anything in to be replaced. But I will say I wish they were more easily contacted than just through the replacement program or email. They are big enough where they should have a customer service number of some sort.
And still waiting on my subscription cases (for Legends of Golarian). :(
I have to agree with David on this one.
I understand where you are coming from Chris, but I also feel this is better suited for a home campaign.
At home, you are going to have a group of friends that you most likely know very well, and how they would respond to losing an expensive item permanently. Nevermind the fact the item can be replaced (eventually) through WBL.
With Society, as you well know, you have a large player base with a multitude of differing characteristics and perspectives. The more experienced players, who have probably experienced loss in not only death, but items, are more likely to take it in stride and possibly even appreciate the challenge of going on with their character -18,000 GP in wealth.
However, the majority of players, even ones who have played for awhile, are just not going to find that enjoyable at all.
It can be said “only a +2 or +3 is not that big of a difference in the end”, but that is the viewpoint of an experienced player and one who wants the extra challenge. Most players are going to see losing an extremely expensive item that ‘cannot’ be replaced in any form. Sure, they could be rebuy the item, but they will always be down that amount of wealth.
And where I understand that’s what you want in a sense, something that is hard hitting and a real consequence, I am pretty certain most players are just going to be angry and possibly not want to play Society anymore. And I know none of us want that.
Heh Yeah, exactly. :)
But dying is part of the game. I’ve had a good run with him (in no deaths) until now. And as I said, I had plenty of prestige and gold to bring him back.
I think the biggest disappointment I have is not being able to play this one again. It felt like a wasted scenario as I died in the very first combat and really didn’t get to experience the scenario at all.
Yes, I know you can replay scenarios with GM stars, but don’t have any right now and not sure when I’ll start GMing.
I’m actually surprised, I thought it would get more attacks than one. Well, made the wrong call, should have gone full defense.
I made a Knowledge check, but only gained one piece of information, it wasn’t how many attacks it has.
Yes, I know. I just didn’t have a lot of options at that point. I thought about going full defense, but I had figured one of it’s (probably) many attacks would get through. I was only at 12 HP at that moment, all it took was one to hit.
Played this yesterday and our party didn’t do so well as some others. Really like some of the creative solutions with the ‘pede mentioned here!
There were four of us going in (Ranger 10, Rogue 10, Evoker Wizard 9 and 7 Ranger). With the average of our party, it worked out for 7-8 subtier. Should be fine, right?
That centipede was devastating, even at 7-8. We were trampled on surprise, beat us on initiative (my second attack from it) and then killed me when I tried to Acrobatics away, failed and therefore provoked. It was either that or receive (probable) full attacks from it.
Fortunately everyone else got away from it, was able to counter and kill it. But all the elves died, and being down to three party members, decided to head back home.
I ran Elven Entanglement 2 weeks ago. I am certain there would have been at least 1 fatality on the first combat if it hadn't been for the Samurai critting with his 4x naginata on the AoO.
We didn't have that luck. Trampling for 56 damage and then beating my character on initiative to attack again. A failed Acrobatics provoked and killed me.
But fortunately everyone else made it through the combat. However, since the party was down to three members (we started with four), they elected to bug out.
Vic Wertz wrote:
There is virtually no automation in painting. Masks are aids for freehand painters.
My mistake and apologies. I really did not think the miniatures were still handpainted, this is good to hear at least.
Vic Wertz wrote:
I haven't gotten mine yet. But when I do I will go through them and be sure to post any (if) I have issues with.
Thanks for responding, Vic.
Yes, I’m pretty certain all the sets in PFB have been automated. So if any changes are made to improve WoR, it would need to be done before the set goes into production. And since it’s only 2 months away, I’m guessing that will be very soon, if it hasn’t started already.
It would definitely mean the delay of the set, but I think most of us are ok with that, especially if it brings the quality of the paint job back up.
I still haven't received my cases in yet (hopefully today). But I have heard from more than one person on the lesser paint quality.
Galnorag, are you noticing it's the same miniatures that is missing steps? For example, could one of the kobolds have poor quality, but in another booster (the same exact kobold) it's perfectly fine?
As for upcoming builder sets, sorry to disappoint, but Erik has said they unfortunately have not sold as well as the main sets. Nothing was said on permanently stopping them, but I believe right now they are "waiting and seeing" to see how the current builder sets sell first.
What Erik indicated was it probably would be just shy of 3 sets a year. If I remember correctly, at one point had said it would work out to approximately 3 sets every 13-14 months. Although don't quote me on that number.
When I've spoken with him, and from reading his posts, I can see the excitement and love he has for the PFB line. I have complete confidence that he (and Paizo in general) will do his (their) best to resolve all of the issues that are cropping up. The question is when will we start to see a change. From what I recall, I believe it is two sets out that are always being worked on.
I first want to say that my post made it sound like it was more devious and underhanded on WizKids part. I don’t believe that is the case.
What Erik had told me at GenCon was the reason we would be seeing several sets being released in close succession was due to Shattered Star being delayed. But it would level out to close to 3 sets a year.
I have to agree with you in I think rushing these sets is what’s causing these problems. I know it’s easier to look back now and say what should have been done, but I feel they should have just released the sets on the pace they wanted to, than trying to “catch up”.
If my theory is accurate, then unfortunately Wrath of the Righteous is probably going to suffer as well. Which is a real shame as there are a lot of miniatures I really want from that set.
Again, I could be wrong, but in a sense I hope I am not wrong and the problems are due to rushing the sets, as that would only be a temporary problem and hopefully would be ironed out when the sets release on more normal schedule. Because the alternative is that the quality would be slipping on a more permanent basis, and that would mean there are much worse issues than sets being rushed.
I'm assuming those are cases you buy to sell for your store. :) I am curious Drogon, have customers been buying less of the cases/bricks/boosters at your store? Not trying to sound critical, but it sounded as if you are buying less miniatures to sell at the store because you are unhappy of the quality. But if they are still selling well, why purchase less cases? Is it more of a factor of principle (which I certainly respect)?
Again, not trying to sound critical, I am just curious.
This is very disappointing to hear.
I would like to think this would be accidental on WizKids part, but with how many miniatures I am hearing that the paint job is poor, makes me wonder. I could be wrong (and hoping it’s the case), but it makes me think it more has to do with the main sets doing well and corners are being cut to get them out more quickly and cheaply.
It’s not something I would believe Paizo would originally be aware of. The masters being shown to Erik I am sure are top notch, but once the mass production starts it doesn’t sound like that is what is being manufactured.
I am certain Paizo has their own sets they look over (besides the masters) and hopefully is seeing the drop in quality and it is something that is being looked into.
I have not received my minis as of yet, so I cannot comment with my opinion.
However, I’ve been seeing this brought up more and more with LoG lately that it is a bit worrisome.
I will hold judgment until I see my minis, but if the quality is slipping like many have said, I hope this gets nipped (from Paizo) and quickly.
Also note: Most wizkids products go directly to the distributor(s). So Wizkids/Paizo have little if any control over what time frame. This means paizo may (or may not, depending on the license contract) have to wait for the distributor to get them the products just like any other business in the US.
Yes, I understand and agree. I actually had assumed that WizKids sent the product to the distributors, and in turn, the distributors sent the miniatures to Paizo (the amount they ordered).
However, I guess I was assuming (and maybe inaccurately) that Paizo received their miniatures well ahead of other retailers to fill their subscriptions, and considering it is also their miniature line (their name on it). But as I said, I could be assuming incorrectly.
However, as I indicated, it was only a very minor issue I had. Nothing that is going to keep me from continuing my subscription.
So it appears there are two seperate series' going concurrently now? The original storyline arc (most recently #9) and then the Goblins series?
Is this something that will happen from now on? Or is the Goblins series just something that will have a set number in it's story and then stopping?
Ok, thanks Danielc. But yesterday was the street date, correct?
I will admit, that is one thing that has bugged me with Paizo's subscriptions, with the exception of ones that have a PDF, you are not able to get the items more quickly.
If they don't have the miniatures in from WizKids yet, that is one thing, but it would be nice if the subscribers started having their cases shipped out a week before the release date. I know with a couple of the sets, I didn't receive my cases until a week and a half after the street date.
It's a small complaint in the end, but just something that has bugged me a bit.