Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne (PFRPG)

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A Campaign Fit For a Queen

The kings and queens of Korvosa have long ruled under the shadow of the Curse of the Crimson Throne—an infamous superstition claiming that no monarch of the city of Korvosa shall ever die of old age or produce an heir. Whether or not there is any truth to the legend of the curse, Korvosa's current king is but the latest victim to succumb to this foul legacy. Now, the metropolis teeters on the edge of anarchy, and it falls to a band of new heroes to save Korvosa from the greatest threat it has ever known! This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, including new and revised content and nearly 500 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

This hardcover edition of Curse of the Crimson Throne contains:

  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • An in-depth gazetteer of the city of Korvosa as it exists under the rule of its new queen.
  • An array of new rules options for characters, ranging from campaign traits to spells to magic items.
  • An expansive appendix with statistics, descriptions, backgrounds, and rules support for the 12 most important NPCs in the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring nine monsters from the original Adventure Path making their debut under the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, extensive new encounter locations, and more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-890-8

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The Gold Standard For Adventure Paths

5/5

This AP is widely considered one of the (if not THE) best Adventure Paths for good reason. It really is that good. Tons of really interesting NPCs and storylines. Lots and lots and lots of room for a GM to add their own touches. An excellent story that makes the PCs feel like heroes. Villains they really want to beat. Heck, it's even a good introduction to the pathfinder system and world.

Not only that, but since it's so popular, there's tons of advice about what changes to make, what to keep an eye on, and how to make changes that can improve it. This edition is a fantastic deal and an excellent campaign and I can't recommend it highly enough.


Frick it my review got deleted

5/5

I wrote fricking long review about great time I had with running the whole campaign(and post campaign) and then it got deleted by the fricking "too much backtracking" page dagnabbit

I'm not gonna write the entire thing again, so here is in short: This campaign has great recurring NPC cast(most of later APs have problem with introducing cool NPCs and then rest of books never mentioning them again), great themes, great villains, Kazavon's awesome hair, allows multiple approaches to different situations(such as infiltrating with sneaking or talking through places instead of just fighting through them. Kinda reminds me of Deux Ex computer games in a way), awesome locations, awesome post campaign potential and is one of my favourite APs ever.


Good value, but some reservations

4/5

Short Version: A smart buy but held back by structural issues.

It's hard to get better adventure value for your dollar than this or the Rise of the Runelords collected edition. If I were reviewing on that alone, this would be 5 stars and then some. But there's more to an adventure than that.

The AP's hook is quite good, but almost immediately discarded in favor of saving the city. This can be helped a good session 0, but still feels artificial.

Even looking at the new plot, many elements feel shoehorned in. People point to volumes 4 and 5 for this, but there are sections in 2 that exist only to kill time as the plot advances and an entire dungeon in 3 that is cool but can seem forced if the players don't kick in the door right away. Any of these alone would be fine, but each makes the next more obvious.

That being said, there's a lot of cool stuff going on here, it just takes at least a star's worth of work to stitch it together.


3.5 vs. Pathfinder comparison!

5/5

I´m gonna list the differences between the original AP#7s chapters and it´s adaption into the hardcover edition:

Inside front cover:
The "Korvosan Hierarchy" overview is not reprinted.
Part 1:
The illustration on page 6 is exchanged for a cartoony new one on page 12 of the HC.
Page 10 of AP#7 has a map where the 8 locations in Korvosa that are important for book 1 are marked and named. This map is reprinted on page 400 of the HC but that one shows ALL important locations of the campaign at once, marked with letters and numbers.
"Lamm´s Lambs" stats are upgraded to young human on page 18 of the HC.
"Yargin Balko" now has a full body illustration instead of an upper body one. "Hookshanks Gruller" gets a full body illustration. "Giggles" gets a fbi. "Gaedren Lamm" gets a fbi.
Part 2:
King Eodred Arabasti gets a head illu. "Imps and Dragons" gets an illustration. "Meet the mob" gets a "Amin Jalento" head illu and his battle stats.
Part 3:
The illustration of "Sabina Merrin" on page 25 is not reprinted (she gets a new one on page 455).
Part 4:
"Cressida Croft" gets a head illu (and fbi on page 443). The Queens gets a new veiled head illu (the old one is more mysterious). The "renegade guards" stats in "All the Worlds Meat" get new stats. "Verik Vancasterkin" is upgraded from fighter 3 to fighter 4.
Part 5:
The "Ambassadors Secret" gets a new head illu. The fbi of "Vencarlo Orisini" from page 34 is not reprinted. The fbi of "Devargo Barvasi" on page 37 is replaced with a new one that is very much less impressive. He is upgraded from rogue 4 to rogue 5. "Majenko" is changed from pseudodragon to house drake. The illustration on page 41 is replaced with a new one (page 57). Both are equally creepy.
Part 6:
The "Trinia Sabor" fbi from page 43 is not reprinted (she gets a new look on page 460, but the old one is flashier). She is upgraded from bard 4 to bard 5. "The Shingle Chase" gets a better illustration. Curiously it features the old flashier Trinia Sabor outfit instead of the new.
Part 7:
The Owlbear skeleton gets gorgeous art on page 59 of the HC. The cool illustration on page 52 is replaced by a cool new one on HC page 61.
Cabbagehead´s head illu is replaced by a fbi. The "Gaekhen" head illu is not reprinted. "Vreeg" gets a much better new fbi.
Concluding the adventure:
The famous "green dress Illeosa Arabasti" illustration from page 56 (on which the first miniature is based) is NOT reprinted!
The Blackjack illustration from page 57 is replaced by a much better one on HC page 67.
Appendixes:
The 4 page Harrow article is updated to a 14 page one!
The 8 page "people of the road" article about varisians is not reprinted.
The 6 page Pathfinder´s journal is not reprinted.
Bestiary:
The illustration of the "Dream Spider", the only creature that hasn´t been adapted to a Bestiary yet, is not reprinted from page 82 but it´s stats are.
Inside back cover:
The "Korvosas enemies" overview is not reprinted.

While the new edition HC is better overall and everything needed for playing the campaign is included, updated and streamlined, quite a few cool things are left out.
I´m glad i got the original AP #7 too.


Even better than the original

5/5

Read my full review at Of Dice and Pen.

It was perhaps inevitable that Curse of the Crimson Throne would one day also receive a similar treatment to Rise of the Runelords. There’s no special anniversary to celebrate this year, but does there really need to be? Much like its Runelords predecessor, the new hardcover compilation of Crimson Throne updates the adventure path to Pathfinder rules and also expands on the story where beneficial and streamlines in other areas. It also takes advantage of the most recent rules supplements, making use of newer monsters, classes, and feats where appropriate.

At nearly 500 pages in length, it is actually a substantially larger tome than the hardcover Runelords (a good 50 pages or so longer), and its extra length is certainly put to good use. Indeed, it manages to make one of the best adventure paths even better.


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Brother Fen wrote:
You two trying to gainsay everything is really weak. Who cares?

It’s an interesting discussion (although maybe not right to be in a product discussion forum).

One thing I haven’t seen cited here is Vic’s previous comment that they know these reprints will be profitable - there is no concern about profitability keeping them from collecting APs. Therefore, how rapidly they sell out isn’t actually a relevant statistic. Paizo printed this fully expecting it would sell out and they know they’d sell out a kingmaker AP collection also. It would only really factor into their decisions if a compilation failed to sell strongly.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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A product does not have to sell out to be considered a success.


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James Jacobs wrote:
A product does not have to sell out to be considered a success.

Whether this one did or not, I consider it a success. Glorious book and very well done.


Is their a chance that this book maybe reveive a reprint in the future?


The Thing From Another World wrote:
Is their a chance that this book maybe reveive a reprint in the future?

Pssst. Paizo has copies of the limited edition hardcover in stock. Better act fast!

Grand Lodge

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Them revising a PF1 AP into a PF2 AP would make more sense.

Called it!


I'm guessing there was much less copies of this printed than Rise of the Runelords. Wish this was still available. I can't find it anywhere (besides at astronomical prices).

Would love to see this re-printed, but I highly doubt it would be.

:(

Dark Archive

Does anybody else hate it when they bother to review book they love, and then the long review gets vanished into the void by "too much backtracking" error page?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Yep, that's why I copy the post as a backup when I remember to.

Dark Archive

TriOmegaZero wrote:
Yep, that's why I copy the post as a backup when I remember to.

Me too :'D As you can guess, this time I forgot


All I know is while I wasn't...enamored with a part of Book 4, I am overall pleased with this update, especially because they put in more stuff in Castle Scarwall.

Dark Archive

Thomas Seitz wrote:
All I know is while I wasn't...enamored with a part of Book 4, I am overall pleased with this update, especially because they put in more stuff in Castle Scarwall.

Castle Scarwall now has a battle in every room.

While some are pretty cool, it is too much battles overall.
There are very few opportunities for making roleplay.
While there are people that like mega-dungeons, everyone i know gets bored to death after a few battles in a row without any social encounter.

Dark Archive

I mean, they way I did it was that the encounters were mass encounters :p Because in most cases there wasn't reason why the enemies wouldn't join the fight and I run games in roll20 which makes it easy to track lot of enemies.

(In general, mass combats tends to go somehow faster than if same encounter was split into several ones :p I think its because of stuff like bookkeeping buffs/loot/exp, searching the rooms, rolling iniative once again when gm describes new room again... Etc, lots of small things slowing it down)


All I know is while it might be a slog for PCs, I thoroughly enjoyed making my PCs feel tension as they didn't know what was going to happen next.


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GM: Your town is surrounded by an army of 100,000 orcs. What do you (party of six) do?
Party: Open the gates, charge the army.
GM: <rolls a die> You win. Game over. Advance to third level (from first).

-- From one of the first times I played D&D, ca. 1977.


How updated is this?

As I've come across older PDFs on friends machines and books that for example, have GPL instead of CMD along with other odd quirks.

Basically is it worth picking it up vs updating any older versions?


Yes.


I'm with the captain. I loved the old 3.5 version but this was WAY better. For one thing, it filled up entire rooms of Scarwall! Among other things that were fixed/improved.


Since Rise of the Runelords is being released in pocket edition while this also receive a similar treatment?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Signs point to yes.


I'd definitely recommend getting this AP.

Finishing up a 3-d model of Castle Korvosa for the conclusion of our 2 year home campaign as my players have gotten up to the last chapter.

Making some changes to keep it an urban AP and the finale will occur within the Castle.(plenty of unused space where the last section can fit in).

Dark Archive

Shivok wrote:

I'd definitely recommend getting this AP.

Finishing up a 3-d model of Castle Korvosa for the conclusion of our 2 year home campaign as my players have gotten up to the last chapter.

Making some changes to keep it an urban AP and the finale will occur within the Castle.(plenty of unused space where the last section can fit in).

That sounds cool, i plan to provide something similiar with Scarwall in part 5 (we just finished book 2 and it took us 2 months per book, 4 months total).

What will you use, Dwarven Forge or something custom-build?
I may try the Wizkids 4D tiles which are coming out in june, but we will probably begin book 5 in may so i might use them for Castle Korvosa top.

Anyway, any pictures or tips would be welcome.
I hope you have fun!


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Marco Massoudi wrote:
Shivok wrote:

I'd definitely recommend getting this AP.

Finishing up a 3-d model of Castle Korvosa for the conclusion of our 2 year home campaign as my players have gotten up to the last chapter.

Making some changes to keep it an urban AP and the finale will occur within the Castle.(plenty of unused space where the last section can fit in).

That sounds cool, i plan to provide something similiar with Scarwall in part 5 (we just finished book 2 and it took us 2 months per book, 4 months total).

What will you use, Dwarven Forge or something custom-build?
I may try the Wizkids 4D tiles which are coming out in june, but we will probably begin book 5 in may so i might use them for Castle Korvosa top.

Anyway, any pictures or tips would be welcome.
I hope you have fun!

I am making the model out of XPS Insulation foam from the hardware store as well as modpodge and other items to smooth the walls from the cuts. Having some issues cutting through with a heavy duty knife so I ordered a electric hot knife I still have the last two floors to cut.

Here are some pictures. I will post it on the FB PFRPG page with the finished product.

Dark Archive

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Thanks, that looks pretty cool already.

I love it, when talented people build something for their games.

Have a great 2020 and much fun with the final installment!

Cheers,
Marco


Looking at the PFS Chronicle Fate of Many Things. I see one of the possible cards listed is Books (Idiot). However, the instructions say to record the drawn card, but it also says to put any evil cards back in the desk and draw again until you get a non-evil card. It's poorly written but the implication seems to be that you should keep drawing until you get a non-evil card and record THAT card. If that is true, then the recorded card could never be Books (Idiot), yet it is a card with a boon! Should the boon have been something else?

Analysis of the cards that have boons:
Alignment: 2x LG, 4x NG, 1x CG, 2x LN, 1x TN, 1x CN, 1x NE
Suit: two of each.

If the NE card was actually a typo, then logically shouldn't it be The Foreign Trader (TN, books) to match the overall pattern of distribution that is apparent with all the other cards except The Idiot?


I'd to of loved getting this as a large hardcover book, but it seems I missed the boat by a lot......

A pocket sized book will have to do....

Dark Archive

Is there a "one file per chapter" download option available?

Dark Archive

ckdragons wrote:

Is there a "one file per chapter" download option available?

Never mind. The 'one file per chapter' option finally appeared in my downloads.


Hey Paizo

I was able to find the pocket version for pre-order on Amazon.ca

Curse Pocket

I am not able to find it for sale on Amazon.com


The Thing From Another World wrote:
I am not able to find it for sale on Amazon.com

Here it is. Link


Barbaric Gug Swarm wrote:
The Thing From Another World wrote:
I am not able to find it for sale on Amazon.com
Here it is. Link

Thank for the link. I works when I click on the link. Yet if one tries keywords such as the name of the AP or even including pocket in the search as sp " Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne Pocket Edition". I get a link to the hardcover with a message advising " Use fewer keywords or try these instead ".

Just really strange.


Hey everyone!

Any new news on collected editions, pocket or otherwise, for Legacy of Fire and/or Second Darkness? I see the latter is still not sold out on their website, but I’m still holding out for a miracle.


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OctopusMacbeth wrote:
Any new news on collected editions, pocket or otherwise, for Legacy of Fire and/or Second Darkness?

The next collected edition will be Kingmaker updated to P2e. There have been no other announcements.

Dark Archive

Shivok wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
Shivok wrote:

I'd definitely recommend getting this AP.

Finishing up a 3-d model of Castle Korvosa for the conclusion of our 2 year home campaign as my players have gotten up to the last chapter.

Making some changes to keep it an urban AP and the finale will occur within the Castle.(plenty of unused space where the last section can fit in).

That sounds cool, i plan to provide something similiar with Scarwall in part 5 (we just finished book 2 and it took us 2 months per book, 4 months total).

What will you use, Dwarven Forge or something custom-build?
I may try the Wizkids 4D tiles which are coming out in june, but we will probably begin book 5 in may so i might use them for Castle Korvosa top.

Anyway, any pictures or tips would be welcome.
I hope you have fun!

I am making the model out of XPS Insulation foam from the hardware store as well as modpodge and other items to smooth the walls from the cuts. Having some issues cutting through with a heavy duty knife so I ordered a electric hot knife I still have the last two floors to cut.

Here are some pictures. I will post it on the FB PFRPG page with the finished product.

Hey Sivok, i hope you and your family are doing well.

Our group will begin Castle Scarwall sometimes this month, how are you along?
Got any new pictures or stories to share?
Best wishes from Germany!
Marco


Starfinder Charter Superscriber

My group is halfway through book 1 and I’m having a blast!

Dark Archive

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Jhaeman wrote:
My group is halfway through book 1 and I’m having a blast!

Glad to hear it!

Book 1 is great, although i wish our GM had added the genius idea of a user on this site of playing a few prequel sessions with the PCs being around 13 years old and being members of "Lamm's Lambs"!

The first three books have all been extremely fun to take part in as a player, book 4 has become a slog though and i hope we will finish the added "M&M" chapter tonight, so we can beginn book 5 in two weeks.

Keep enjoy the campaign, Jhaeman!

PS: Are you playing or mastering?


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GMing. I have a whole new crop of players after finishing a three-year run of RotRL last year. I really enjoy all the political/social drama in Book 1–it really makes Korvosa come alive!

Dark Archive

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Jhaeman wrote:
GMing. I have a whole new crop of players after finishing a three-year run of RotRL last year. I really enjoy all the political/social drama in Book 1–it really makes Korvosa come alive!

I GMed Rise of the Runelords books 1, 2, 3, 4 & maybe a third of book 5 almost weekly.

Sadly the game broke down after the party narrowly defeated the lich in the Necromancy wing.

Do you use the "Guide to Korvosa"?
The city is a vast place with lots of possible additional sidequests.
We have been playing for over a year and may finish the campaign in december/january/february.


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I love this adventure. I've tried to play it three times. Finished book one twice, but the second one always TPKs the group! Well, near TPK anyway. I survived. Heh.

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We had our 24th session yesterday and the 7th of book 4.
We always play about 7 hours.

Book 1 took us 7 evenings.
Book 2 took us 6 evenings.
Book 3 took us 4 evenings.
Book 4 will take us 8 evenings, because we had to break in the final fight with 9 opponents, 4 still standing.

Here are my thoughts of book 4:

While the original quests are all fine (and a sandbox), the added new 3rd chapter sounds good on paper, but is actually one fight after the other (and a dungeon crawl).
I immensely enjoyed books 1-3, but enjoyed only most of the chapters 1 & 2 parts of book 3, i didn't like chapter 3, which is only added so you advance to level 13.
As some GMs online already suggested, i would either completely leave it out or cut it by half.


Kinda disappointed that the handout sheet only contained letter handouts and not all the art aswell. Would be nice if at least all the character art was there to easily show the players.

Liberty's Edge

does this have an interactive map pdf with it? I purchased the physical book... but I would love to have digital maps..

Grand Lodge

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I think they are a separate purchase.


Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, LO Special Edition, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

There is a map folio. Map of the city, map of Varisia, and 17 pages of interior maps of various places. I don't think they're interactive, though.

Liberty's Edge

Ed Reppert wrote:
There is a map folio. Map of the city, map of Varisia, and 17 pages of interior maps of various places. I don't think they're interactive, though.

Yeah this version has a lot of stuff not in the map folio, (Which I have the physical version of)

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Pawns, Rulebook Subscriber

Doublechecked, it looks like the PDF option of the hardcover includes the interactive maps, but I'm not totally sure.


James Jacobs wrote:
A product does not have to sell out to be considered a success.

Dear James Jacobs

I am afraid my eyes are too knackered for pocket book editions....

Really pleased Paizo are bringing out an Abomination Vaults hardback and a Kobold King one....an old classic! Getting both.

It would be fab if CotCT could be done in 2e in hardback. Or something equivalent for Absalom now you have a splat book for it?

In hope

Ben


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Archmage Mescalin wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
A product does not have to sell out to be considered a success.

Dear James Jacobs

I am afraid my eyes are too knackered for pocket book editions....

Really pleased Paizo are bringing out an Abomination Vaults hardback and a Kobold King one....an old classic! Getting both.

It would be fab if CotCT could be done in 2e in hardback. Or something equivalent for Absalom now you have a splat book for it?

In hope

Ben

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