Loving this set! Always happy to receive more giants!
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Holy plastic goodness Batman! Three minis I've been hoping to get for some time and here they are. This set is indeed shaping up to be an awesome one, well certainly from my point of view, so many things in this I've been hoping for. I hope its been just as kind to everyone else.
Cave Catcher - although with that tongue it could easily go "fishing" instead! Wanted for a while, now I can have it. Not sure about the hovering aspect but that may well just be the digital, and since I have no issue with the plastic posts I'm all good here.
I have wanted the cave giant for a long time, well any of the more niche giants really (come on tomb, ash and shadow). Like it! Another great uncommon. Feet look strangely huge, but I assume that's the perspective, hopefully its proportions are fine in hand.
House drake? well house dragon? neither really more of a pseudo-dragon (see what I did there). Brilliant. I hope the detail come through in tiny but I'm really happy this made the set. Looks great. My only issue if the rarity, but that just me, I imagine most wouldn't use more than one anyway. Plus as a rare it may get the attention to detail it wqill need to shine as a tiny mini.
Welcome back Mike, keep pushing Erik.
I thought you had taken on a replacement for mike when he left? Shoes too big to fill huh?
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Very exited for Deadly Foes and the next two sets!
I´m happy with the Cave Fisher being an uncommon, as i want multiples for my Darklands/Underdark campaign, same as the brilliant Cloaker.
The colors look great!
The Cave Giant looks so hulking cool that 2 or 3 of it will be a welcome addition to any collection.
I already got the tiny D&D Pseudodragon, but the small PF one fills a niche and could easily double as small red dragon.
A great preview and a good thing you have Mike Kenway back to take some work off your shoulders.
Have a nice weekend, Erik!
I can't wait to hear about the next couple of case incentives! I also hope that two huges haven't been ruled out, I like that idea (and it's currently the only way to get huges).
Nice stuff
someone's been feeding the Pseudo Cat too much, for a tiny it fills out the smal base rather snugly :-p
Shame it's a rare though, it could have been re-painted to multiple wyrmlings of other dragons.
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Erik, any more thoughts on continuing the iconic heroes line or including some more card game characters in one of these awesome sets? I loved getting the ones that were included in Rusty Dragon.
Thanks!
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My prediction on the next set/Summer 2017:
As Erik said it has lots of "multi-figure themes".
I think it will be similar to "The Rusty Dragon" in that we will see humanoid groups of four each, like "Red Mantis Assassins", "Razmirans", "Grey Gardener"(and hopefully Drow, Morlocks and Vegepygmies).
Also i think that the Case Incentive will be something like the Bar - something like a Palace or a Wizards Tower.
Exciting times!
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I'm tempted to say linorm. There was a lot of requests early on and repeated requests whenever the incentives come up. Personally I'd love to see a Frogemoth (or a Frogemoth and Mobogo double) or a Tendriculous, but I'm stoked with how many of my long time wants are in this set already.
As for themed minis please let the red mantis get their day in the sun.
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Gargantuan creatures we have:
-Humanoid (Rune Giant)
-Dragon (Blue, Green, White, Red)
-Undead (Skeletal Dragon)
-Demon (Shemhazian, Deskari)
Without the wings, the Blue & Skeletal Dragon can stand-in for snake-like creatures.
The Shemhazian can stand-in for Abberations.
Deskari can substitute for Vermin.
Animals can be bought cheaply in toystores.
What we need is a Plant creature (Body-Thief being the best imo) & something worm-like (Neothelid being the best imo).
Also maybe a construct.
A Linnorm would be nice, but there are lots of Lindworm toys that look like one.
I think the days of the Gargantuan creature case incentives are almost over and the time for Huge creatures & dressing sets are here.
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I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.
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I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.
Dressing pieces need to be common or uncommon when being beds, chairs, tables, crates...
When being Iron Maidens, Book of the Damned or Anghazan Idol rare is proper.
Let´s not forget that a small, medium or large creature mini is more useful than a dressing piece to most people (me included).
That said, i would love boxed sets the size of Iconic Heroes with 2 tables and 8 stools for example.
It sounds like the Azlant adventure path involves at least one aboleth, and that's a huge creature that's never had a proper <huge> sculpt in any D&D or Pathfinder line . . . .
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I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.
I'd agree with your dressing-specific set idea although for different reasons (I think they're proving popular, but I have zero interest in them).
Giving them their own line would mean people who want them can get them at a reasonable price whereas those of us who aren't interested don't face the choice of having to buy a dozen niche sculpts as part of collecting more traditional miniatures.
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I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.I'd agree with your dressing-specific set idea although for different reasons (I think they're proving popular, but I have zero interest in them).
Giving them their own line would mean people who want them can get them at a reasonable price whereas those of us who aren't interested don't face the choice of having to buy a dozen niche sculpts as part of collecting more traditional miniatures.
That is very fair. Id assumed (incorrectly) everyone liked the dressing.
I'd bet money on the case incentive being 4 huge elementals, one of each standard "flavor"
Fits everything, high value, multi model theme and something high demand.
That is very fair. Id assumed (incorrectly) everyone liked the dressing.I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.I'd agree with your dressing-specific set idea although for different reasons (I think they're proving popular, but I have zero interest in them).
Giving them their own line would mean people who want them can get them at a reasonable price whereas those of us who aren't interested don't face the choice of having to buy a dozen niche sculpts as part of collecting more traditional miniatures.
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone else does. :p
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I'm pretty sure that almost everyone else does. :pThat is very fair. Id assumed (incorrectly) everyone liked the dressing.I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.I'd agree with your dressing-specific set idea although for different reasons (I think they're proving popular, but I have zero interest in them).
Giving them their own line would mean people who want them can get them at a reasonable price whereas those of us who aren't interested don't face the choice of having to buy a dozen niche sculpts as part of collecting more traditional miniatures.
If I had to choose between humanoids and dressing, I'd choose dressing, If I had to decide between dressing and monsters, I choose monsters every time.
Yeah, I'm a bit similar. It's pretty rare that a humanoid figure comes out with any interest to me. I'm even less interested in goats, owls, pigs and so forth.
However, in my view, humanoids are at least the-same-kind-of-thing as monsters whereas dressing seems to me to be a different category. Judgements like that are obviously subjective, of course.
I'm glad the dressing stuff has been so well received. Hopefully that will mean wizkids don't see it as such a big risk to spin off into its own product line. My armchair analysis doesn't see any losers in that scenario (assuming the sales hold up and that the dressing demand isn't similar to the 'RPG art book' demand).
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-3 medium or small uncommons to be revealed (one hopefully being the Hobgoblin Leader/Samurai)
-2 large uncommons unrevealed (one being a Bone Devil?)
-3 medium or small rares (one being "Aram Goldenheart"/Aasimar Paladin)
-2 large rares (one being the Keketar Protean)
Erik also teased more Celestials, so i hope for Astral Deva/Messenger Angel and Planetar.
What about Choral Angel, Marco?
How much would the dressing have to cost if it came in a set like the Iconics?
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What about Choral Angel, Marco?
This being a relative new and obscure creature which isn't very iconic visually, i wouldn't expect it to be in this set.
On another note, Wizkids managed to post their first D&D (actual production mini) preview - 4 weeks before release.
Thank god for Erik & Mike, who manage this much better.
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone else does. :pThat is very fair. Id assumed (incorrectly) everyone liked the dressing.I have liked the dugeon dressing in concept but i have to say getting one chair or one bed is not really all that useful. I for one would like to see the common dressing in a common slot or baring that a set of only dressing. The secondary market isnt very cost friendly either. I think the idae of dressing was presented as a experimernt and it has been seeminly well recieved but now it needs to be given the treatment it deserves. Just my 2 cents.I'd agree with your dressing-specific set idea although for different reasons (I think they're proving popular, but I have zero interest in them).
Giving them their own line would mean people who want them can get them at a reasonable price whereas those of us who aren't interested don't face the choice of having to buy a dozen niche sculpts as part of collecting more traditional miniatures.
I don't.
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I like the dressing, but i'd rather have one cool monster mini than one chair or table.
The same may not be true for a special dressing piece like a guillotine, the Book of the Damned on pedestal or a throne, but i agree with the wish of testing the waters with a boxed set of dressing.
On another note, Erik reduced the number of creatures in a set down to 44 and the 6 dressing pieces are one per case (or 2 maximum).
I'm not sure we would get more creatures without them...
On another note, Erik reduced the number of creatures in a set down to 44 and the 6 dressing pieces are one per case (or 2 maximum).
I'm not sure we would get more creatures without them...
If it's a choice between dressing or no dressing and less minis, then I'd obviously choose the dressing, in the interests of those who use them. However, I can't see why that would be the case.
The dressing pieces in a case cost something to make - whatever that is could be reallocated to more traditional minis if they were moved from the PFBattles line to their own thing.
Edit: also, it's a minor quibble, but that choice was probably Wizkids' rather than Erik's.
Maybe they're just waiting for Saturday Marco...
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Well there only 10 minis to go, 5 dressing pieces and at least 9, possibly 12 weeks to release so I suspect spoiler rates will slow. I may be one of the few but I kind of hope the next incentive is neither a set piece like the bar or a set of 4 huge elementals. Neither appeals. The idea of the bar was great but I find myself using it far, far less than I expected and frankly elementals don't really excite me, they'd need to be something truly amazing?
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Naw. We looked around a bit, but no one gave us quite that special Kenway feeling.
It's good that Mike is back.
With the Horsemen of the Apocalypse getting stats (and illustrations) in Bestiary 6, could you maybe sneak one or two of them into the next two sets as rares? ;-)
Charon with his boat as a large maybe?
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They all have illustrations already, in Book of the Damned III: Horsemen of the Apocalypse. ^_^
Apollyon and Szuriel would probably be the most impressive. I wouldn't mind seeing a Medium Charon mini and a boat or barge dressing item, though. (Trelmarixian would be aa harder sell, I suspect...)
Charon and a seperate barge mini would be fantastic. I think my group is much more likely to need to enter the underworld than to encounter the apocolypse.
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Dear Erik,
now that it is confirmed that each D&D Icons "Storm King´s Thunder" booster contains 1 HUGE miniature (in addition to 3 medium or small ones), i wonder about the possibility of HUGE miniatures in the next two Pathfinder Battles series.
D&D boosters are much larger than PFB boosters, also their price has increased by $1 (from $15.99 to $16.99) and the number of different sculpts has gone down from 12 to 11, probably to accommodate for the size increase.
I guess PFB boosters will stay the size and price we know (at least for a little while) and you will stay focused on the high quality small, medium and large minis we have gotten from the line in the past, but i thought i´d ask anyway.
Thank you for your time and dedecation.
Greetings Marco
That is very fair. Id assumed (incorrectly) everyone liked the dressing.
Naw. Got the book of the damned in the one box of this set I picked up and I was like ... boooooo... Not my thing. It's neat looking but I can't see myself using it.
I'm like great, I got a mini worth $10, I'd rather just have the mini worth $2 that I'll actually use. I also got the iron maiden before too... I have bad luck with getting dressing I don't want.
Wish I knew folks locally that collected so I could trade stuff I don't want for things I do.
Alas! Can't please everyone all of the time. I'll live.