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I think the Hound Archon -- first since the original Harbinger set way back when! -- will be a hit, and I like the Lantern Archon too, especially since it looks like it could be useful as a spell effect or some kind of dressing too. (Maybe a dancing lights spell?) The Trumpet Archon looks great, although I'd bet from past experience with the old Angelfire Trumpet Archon that demand for it will be limited.

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Wow, a "Lantern Archon", "Hound Archon" and "Trumpet Archon" - all Archons from the Bestiary (1)!
These fill a really needed niche in my collection and in Pathfinder Battles - a great addition, each at the right variety.
Now we only need the "Astral Deva" (Summon Monster IX), "Planetar" (on the cover of "Hell´s Vengeance" #6) and maybe a "Solar" (although at CR 23 this would probably not be needed but would make for a nice rare).
Maybe some of these are from the "more celestials (which) remain for future reveals". ;-)
Thanks again for these great miniature revelations, Eric!

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As a licensed product, Pathfinder Battles cannot use Paizo IP, such as creature names.
It's not so much that - Paizo could license them that IP. They do it for all the PF-specific stuff, such as the recent Technic League Captain. Heck, even the art they're modeled after is Paizo IP.
The problem is that if they use any of Wizards' IP - "quasit", "vrock", "hound archon" - they'd have to print the entire Open Gaming License in every pack.
Easier to just change the names. ^_^

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Those are awesome. Been wondering when we'd starting seeing some angel minis!
I'm loving this set so far! Thank you!
Oh - I just wanted to also say Erik, that I finally got around to opening my Rusty Dragon set (I moved across the country, pf minis had to wait), and I just wanted to comment on how much better the quality was compared to previous sets. No smudged faces, paints looked great. I was very happy. A huge step in the right direction.
Thank you for your continued effort in improving this line!

Berk the Black |

As a licensed product, Pathfinder Battles cannot use Paizo IP, such as creature names.
I think it is actually closer to this. Wizkids doesn't have the same Open Game License (?) as Paizo, so while Paizo can grant rights to their original artwork for Wizkids to reproduce, the OGL names for the creatures are a bit more dicey...

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Berk the Black wrote:The Celestial Trumpeter has an interesting alternative to a peg to suspend it in the air. I like this approach.I second this. Flying stands make me soooo nervous. I've had so many break on me :-(
I'd wondered when Wizkids would start doing this for flying minis, they've been doing this for models in Heroclix for a good while now. I think it looks better, and is a lot less likely to break than the flimsy flight pegs.

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Berk the Black wrote:The Celestial Trumpeter has an interesting alternative to a peg to suspend it in the air. I like this approach.I second this. Flying stands make me soooo nervous. I've had so many break on me :-(
I'll go ahead and agree with regards to Medium & larger minis, but I had an interesting opportunity recently...
I use Alea Tools magnetic condition/spell markers. So each PC mini gets a very small magnetic pad stuck in the recess at the bottom. My latest PC has a familiar. I took a spare Tiny mini for an appropriate creature, and severed the bottom of the flying stand. Then I glued that to a small rare-earth modeling magnet, creating a new, magnetic base. It's strong enough that I can just stick it to the top of the PC mini's plastic base and it stays there. I can move it around, and move it to other PCs... it's kind of awesome.
If Small & Tiny minis get more substantial stands, there'll be less opportunity for modding like this.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:As a licensed product, Pathfinder Battles cannot use Paizo IP, such as creature names.It's not so much that - Paizo could license them that IP. They do it for all the PF-specific stuff, such as the recent Technic League Captain. Heck, even the art they're modeled after is Paizo IP.
The problem is that if they use any of Wizards' IP - "quasit", "vrock", "hound archon" - they'd have to print the entire Open Gaming License in every pack.
Easier to just change the names. ^_^
Kalindlara is correct. The entire point of the license WizKids has is that it allows them to use Pathfinder IP. Wizards' IP is not something we can offer, though—they'd have to use the OGL, and that would be silly.

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You could always do what the D&D line is doing and make the OGL print so small and illegible on the base that no-one could really dispute if it was there or not :)
BTW - Thanks for making all the mini's names clearly legible on the bases, that is one of my biggest peeves about the D&D line. Paizo always seems to make good choices regarding these sets.