I'll take a masterwork light crossbow.
Ummm...Other than the fact that I have the one MW light crossbow already and been actually using it since we found it...I can upgrade to a Heavy if you really want it.
I'll take a masterwork light crossbow.Ummm...Other than the fact that I have the one MW light crossbow already and been actually using it since we found it...I can upgrade to a Heavy if you really want it.
Well, there's nothing else I would take. Heavy doesn't really work for the mobile, swift moving style that Erix is supposed to be using.
I suppose I could just take gold, and buy a light one.
Take the light one! I can switch to a heavy.
(Item linked)
*hand waggle* Depends on the perspective. In her case, that is an item. As the others were claiming single items, she would just claim the breastplate and forego the rest. Now, she knows things can be sold, but not for (specifically) which value. All she wants to claim is the breastplate, thinking it might be worthwhile for its material. Someone may have to educate her on its value. She is definitely new to this adventuring thing, and claiming that one thing might just get her where she wants to be.
OOC-ly, if something worth 10k is going to be halved (5k-ish, correct me if I'm wrong) for sale, that absolute value of 10k for trade rather than gold ought to fly a little further.
As per usual, in deference to the party, if this is a Concern, please let me know and I'll easily retract that in favor of a share of gold. I have implied it in-character that she only wants a breastplate. Now, in the event that everything gets sold before she can put a claim on the one thing that she wants, *shrug* she mourns the loss of something she wanted, maybe sours a little, and moves on. If someone asks "Do you want anything before we liquidate it all", she'll respond that she only wants a Breastplate.
However, all of that can be handled IC.
OK...
While I want to jump up and say 'Dividing loot: That's how its done and how it's always been done!' I know that's not always the case. This case in particular is unique in my experience. I certainly know terms like 'fair share' are not always viable solutions with loot like this anyway.
So, that's as far as this goes with me here. If the rest of the group is willing to go with how things are with this, I can certainly sit back and still enjoy the game either way. I'm certainly NOT trying to cause a hardship or create CONCERN particularly. I was just noting something that seemed kinda off to me in case I was not the only one who felt that way.
Most certainly. I respect that. It is not my intent to cause strife over loot. This is a unique experience (at a low-leveled enough point for the character) that she can (and probably the only point in which she would be able to) propose that, otherwise equal shares would be the (unspoken) rule.
Sorry guys, busy handful of days there for me. I will be updating later after work!
Just a note on the treasure issue. I have always handled treasure on the boards based on value. If one PC received more value than another then the PC that received greater value later on sacrificed a portion of the later treasure until all PCs were made whole (from a wealth perspective).
Sorry for the absence, folks - I plan to catch up and post tonight.
Sorry for the absence, folks - I plan to catch up and post tonight.
Of course, a plan is just a list of things that don't happen. Finally posted.
As for the whole treasure split issue, I personally don't care how the split goes so long as our good DM The Dragon Omnipresent doesn't penalize us down the road for taking too little, which at this point seems it would be highly unlike him(?) to do.
Carduus, on the other hand, is likely to hold a grudge if he and his get less than a fair cut of the proceeds. Not enough of a grudge to do anything about it in the here-and-now, since he's not keen to fistfight a minotaur, but it would certainly affect any future dealings he has with the other mercenary group down the road.
It's nice being on the side of the minotaur :P
Seriously though, Shadow will definitely not penalize anybody for not taking 'enough' treasure at this or any point, at least, I'm pretty sure that's the case. Shadows can't be trusted :p
But also, Erix at least, is going to try and give all involved their fair cut.
Why is Ama and the lot at the Library? Short of a report, I'm blanking on why they went.
Why is Ama and the lot at the Library? Short of a report, I'm blanking on why they went.
To make a report, to find out about grafts and to try and obtain an Identify spell!
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I'll update tonight.
Why is Ama and the lot at the Library? Short of a report, I'm blanking on why they went.To make a report, to find out about grafts and to try and obtain an Identify spell!
Ah, fair enough then. A little redundancy never hurt, I suppose.
Will there be enough time for Ama to scribe the scroll into her spellbook?
Will there be enough time for Ama to scribe the scroll into her spellbook?
Oh yes in the evening of the current day and she can identify all items the next morning as the meeting with the Canniths is not until 7 PM the next night.
I will be camping this weekend and may not have internet. Bot if needed!
Ama learns Identify!
The next morning through the afternoon Identify:
2 black potions - Repair Light Damage (1d8+5),
1 green potion - Gaseous Form,
Wand of Shocking Grasp - Claimed by Gauntlet,
3 Blue Potions - Cure Moderate Wounds (2d8+10).
The Schema - it has a powerful version of the spell Magic Aura cast upon it to suppress its aura. The item detects as Transmutation. The Identify spell also reveals that alone it can do nothing, at least two or perhaps three other parts are required for the Transmutation to function, what that Transmutation actually does cannot be ascertained from this part alone.
Provided she has a chance, Ama is going to see if she can go claim the Professor's journal to add to it, rather than starting a whole new one. Or, failing that, she'll still want to copy the journal to start a new book.
Additionally, do we need to have the loot discussion IC?
Provided she has a chance, Ama is going to see if she can go claim the Professor's journal to add to it, rather than starting a whole new one. Or, failing that, she'll still want to copy the journal to start a new book.
Additionally, do we need to have the loot discussion IC?
Absolutely the day after the meeting with the Cannith she can try and claim the Journal.
Yep I think IC loot discussion makes sense. As an assist:
You and another PC kept the Adamant unexpected Plate worth 10k.
Pink kept the Silver Sheen MW (axe I think ) which is clearly very valuable!
Gauntlet kept the wand and presumably will keep some potions (some value but not quite 10k)
The rest of the loot is worth about 60k.
So treasure haul about 10k each at 2nd level not bad at all!
OK folks, a bit more RP and then we'll move to the next day and the meeting with the two Canniths.
Once that is resolved, the groups will return to their respective tables though I will mix the groups up slightly. I have PMed those who are to move already and they have agreed to do so. As two tables we should move along more quickly as each will ne on their own quests.
At some pint the groups will come together once again but not any time soon. So enjoy the large group while it lasts! And if you are not enjoying it don't worry, it will be over soon enough.
OK. Sounds semi-complex for you GM, but I think we can go with it.
=)
What was the total gold we got from selling stuff? We just need to figure up that part now for each person (in RP), but need to know the to GP gained.
I see I butchered the English language is some spots in my post above, eh well, they can't all be winners.
The total GP received thus far was $12,000. Another $48,000 would be available based on a sale of the Antique collectible Cannith weapons. So $60K total.
The two sets of Armor being kept are worth about $10K. Ama and I think Taryn(?) are keeping them. Pink-Eye kept the Silver Masterwork Axe which has a value of about $10K (or more) as well - due to its value as a collectible not due to the magics laid upon it though it is still an effective silver weapon. The magic items found are all fairly deminimis in cost though the Cure Moderate potions have some value.
So it looks like everyone that did NOT keep something will get about $10K. The value over and above that per person you may want to give to Mickey P and to the other Handler Sal as they did set you up on these jobs.
I was the other one who said I'd take a breastplate, yeah... I had kind of talked myself into taking it for the DR but, on further reflection, I'd really rather have it sold and take the 10k gold. The DR is definitely tempting but I see Taryn being more mobile (and able to actually use his acrobatics skill), so I'd rather buy a mithril breastplate.
The sale price was $5,500...
im confused... are you saying that my options are to take the armor or get less gold than everyone else?
I would like the breastplate to have been part of the sold loot and I would like an even share. Is that not an option?
Total estimated group GP gained 65,500gp?
There is a total of 8 people still adventuring here.
+2 Handlers (Sal and Mickey P)
Gauntlet's Personal Items kept:
*Wand of Shocking Grasp - 750gp
(1st level caster(?) with only 23 charges means that's really like ~350gps actually...)
*2x Potions of Repair Light Damage (1d8+5)CL5th - (250each) 500gp
*1 Potion of Gaseous Form - 750gp
*MW Heavy Crossbow -350
Subtotal: 2,350 gp
May I suggest: GROUP LOOT
Mickey P and Sal get 1/2 shares of the money.
I will take a 1/2 share since I kept several minor items.
Ama trades her share for a breatsplate...
Pink-Eye takes the expensive Silver-Sheen Axe (good choice!), so let's say we give him a 1/2 share too to keep things even?
That's a grand total of... 8 shares.
Each full share individual would get ~8187gp
Each half share individual (including NPCs) would get ~4094gp
NONE of this includes the amount of cash we get from our Cannith masters.
Does this makes sense?
If so then Gauntlet will suggest this all out loud.
I don't know who took the healing potions, but I don't like to consider such generic healing items as real loot. No matter who caries them, they tend to get used on whomever needs them most 9 times out of 10 anyway.
im confused... are you saying that my options are to take the armor or get less gold than everyone else?
I would like the breastplate to have been part of the sold loot and I would like an even share. Is that not an option?
Armor can be included as part of the sale (I can ret-con that just fine) but that changes the totals a bit.
However, yes that is an option keeping it and getting no loot, value is based on total value not what you can sell it for so its worth $10K. If you sell it to a shop they'll give you half or a bit more than half at best, damned capitalists.
Total estimated group GP gained 65,500gp?
There is a total of 8 people still adventuring here.
+2 Handlers (Sal and Mickey P)Gauntlet's Personal Items kept:
*Wand of Shocking Grasp - 750gp
(1st level caster(?) with only 23 charges means that's really like ~350gps actually...)
*2x Potions of Repair Light Damage (1d8+5)CL5th - (250each) 500gp
*1 Potion of Gaseous Form - 750gp
*MW Heavy Crossbow -350
Subtotal: 2,350 gpMay I suggest: GROUP LOOT
Mickey P and Sal get 1/2 shares of the money.
I will take a 1/2 share since I kept several minor items.
Ama trades her share for a breatsplate...
Pink-Eye takes the expensive Silver-Sheen Axe (good choice!), so let's say we give him a 1/2 share too to keep things even?That's a grand total of... 8 shares.
Each full share individual would get ~8187gp
Each half share individual (including NPCs) would get ~4094gp
NONE of this includes the amount of cash we get from our Cannith masters.
Does this makes sense?
If so then Gauntlet will suggest this all out loud.
I don't know who took the healing potions, but I don't like to consider such generic healing items as real loot. No matter who caries them, they tend to get used on whomever needs them most 9 times out of 10 anyway.
Remember there are 9 of you:
1. Ama
2. Beylinda
3. Caelan
4. Carduus
5. Erix
6. Gauntlet
7. Pink-Eye
8. Taryn
9. Viorr
And that is not counting those who disappeared... :-)
Still that above with a slight adjustment seems quite fair.
Incidentally, 8,000 gold pieces weighs 160 pounds, so you may want your money in bank notes, jewelry, or something else. ;)
Remember there are 9 of you:
OK,
Ama gave up her share for a breastplate.
That's 9-1 to equal 8 shares
If I and Pink-eye take 1/2 shares it equals -1 share = 7 shares
+1/2 share each for Mickey and Sal equals + 1 share = 8 shares TOTAL
Grand Total of 8 shares. Correct?
Did I mess that up? I think I DID mess up my share calculations earlier, but I still got it right in the end somehow...8 shares. So the money amounts should still be accurate?
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Anyone is welcome to verify my math here.
Incidentally, 8,000 gold pieces weighs 160 pounds, so you may want your money in bank notes, jewelry, or something else. ;)
We should get paid in Bank notes (House Kundarak) or gems and platinum.
Personally, I plan to spend some money myself first rather than carry a lot around.
Viorr and his player are both grateful to those doing the calculations, and are not all that worried about the fine details.
Seriously - I have a 9-month old ans am both buying and selling a house right now, so my brain capacity for loot split is close to nil...thanks, guys, for taking care of it! as long as Vior has some shiny in the end, he's happy.
Remember there are 9 of you:OK,
Ama gave up her share for a breastplate.
That's 9-1 to equal 8 shares
If I and Pink-eye take 1/2 shares it equals -1 share = 7 shares
+1/2 share each for Mickey and Sal equals + 1 share = 8 shares TOTAL
Grand Total of 8 shares. Correct?
Did I mess that up? I think I DID mess up my share calculations earlier, but I still got it right in the end somehow...8 shares. So the money amounts should still be accurate?
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Anyone is welcome to verify my math here.
Incidentally, 8,000 gold pieces weighs 160 pounds, so you may want your money in bank notes, jewelry, or something else. ;)We should get paid in Bank notes (House Kundarak) or gems and platinum.
Personally, I plan to spend some money myself first rather than carry a lot around.
Ah, I see what you did there now! ;-)
As far as I know there's no need to include Sal in the cut at all; my group's contract with him was simply for a 7.5% cut of the guaranteed 1,000 gp payout upon completion, no mention of extraneous loot was included.
It was GM suggested.
Well you don't HAVE to cut Sal in but if you do think of the positive reaction from him on the next set of Merc work he receives. Ultimately, it is up to the PC's to cut him in or not. :-)
Call me weird, but I tend to do what a GM suggests.
I'll give it one more day for RP about the gold situation and perhaps the situation pertaining to missing companions, then I will move forward with the next day.
I don't think anyone in our group was going to mention our missing allies... we seem not to really trust the other group, and to have concerns about them strong-arming us out of our contract, so we've been avoiding showing any signs of weakness (which pointing out that we've dropped from pretty even numbers to half their number probably would be).
I don't think anyone in our group was going to mention our missing allies... we seem not to really trust the other group, and to have concerns about them strong-arming us out of our contract, so we've been avoiding showing any signs of weakness (which pointing out that we've dropped from pretty even numbers to half their number probably would be).
Good point.
I will push us forward on Thursday night.
Everyone go ahead and add the Gold or Equipment to your sheets (if you have no already done so).
Let me know if you want to put that in Platinum, Gems, in a Bank, Invest it, buy stuff with it etc. in the OOC of the Echoes of the Past Thread which is of course the RECRUITMENT thread in the Main Campaign thread.
Once this arc is over, this Forgotten Forge Gameplay will be retired and linked to the main thread for ease of reference in case anyone needs to look back at it.
8,187.
Me and Pink-Eye got half that because of the items we kept, and Ama gave her's up for a Breastplate.
Me and Pink-Eye got half that because of the items we kept, and Ama gave her's up for a Breastplate.
And that too :-)
Is it possible to buy a headband of +2 cha with my 4000 gold?
In general, GM, any restrictions on gear?
No restrictions on gear.
Can spend all 8k on magic if you like!
You will NOT have that gear for the next scene though.
Is it possible to buy a headband of +2 cha with my 4000 gold?
Yes post the Cannith scene.
Post Cannith shopping list...
+1 Darkleaf Cloth leather lamellar armor (1810gp)
Mithril two-bladed sword (5100 gp)
cold iron dagger.