To Do List:
Her skills are wrong, I need to fix that. (The drawback of tristalt. I missed the 'unchained skills split: no') line in the guidelines.
GM Questions: can I spend my last 2 RP on fox shape instead of fast shape (1 RP) as a racial trait? I'd rather have a form to sleep in than yet another thing to do in combat, and most of the 2RP things look like they're numbers boosts.
fox shape is a feat and not a racial option that kitsune can select, sorry
Hi CT! Archlich/Goggh here, with my submission. :)
Hey all, just an update, I hope to get through the first wave of submissions and get people into the open table spots this week (probably later rather than sooner though ).
After that, those remaining or those who have just hopped on to the thread will be in line for a potential new table forming.
A spot is likely to be open on Table 6 now just as an FYI.
5 spots total.
Finished (I hope?) Lily
Her stuff should all be right, in the format you prefer. I gave up on bolding things because paizo is full of hatred and kept losing it.
@Ash..: I can't seem to find your fluff. Do I remember wrongly that you posted it? I always write characters in google doc, then copy over to submit to avoid losing anything.
@Ash..: I can't seem to find your fluff. Do I remember wrongly that you posted it? I always write characters in google doc, then copy over to submit to avoid losing anything.
This is the method I settled on for it, although I was using notepad++. Unfortunately, tagging things in a txt doc for bbcode is dubious as every forum has their own handling of bbcode it seems, so there's no standard plugins for the language as their are other things.
I'll go pull together all of lily's fluff, although it's scattered across the thread and my notes at this point and try to centralize the canonical bits in the alias.
Super invested in her at this point, so that's something!
I almost made the same suggestion a few days ago. Except I used Google Keep until recently when I switched to Evernote. The pro for Evernote over Google Keep for me is that I can keep chronicle sheets and the like right along with my stat blocks. I could do that with Drive, but Drive is comparatively awkward.
I just do all posts in stickies first.
Sensible, certainly.
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Hello, everyone.
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Wow. Those are amazing rolls.
The funny part is that they are still low. He gets to add to them willy-nilly until the total off all 6 scores is 90.
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Still better than mine, Paizo Dice Roller hates me, so I hate it back ... lol
Those rolls are 1 higher than Xanya of I count correctly. Not as high as some, like Maks though.
@Quassine: Your build is really MAD, which makes it a bit unfortunate that you got so low rolls(you rely on 5 stats). Illithid is also lower than most races on the ability boosts. If you had went for a more SAD build it wouldn't be that big of a problem. You got much higher stats than the vast majority of games allow, equivalent to 54 point buy.
Yeah, I've just done a few stat rolls recently and they have NOT been kind to me.
Oh, I am not commenting on how my character turned out and I have wanted to play a Mind Flayer for a long time and saw the opportunity. Yeah, my rolls were pretty bad! I definitely agree, if I had played a SASD build, I wouldn't have had to play catch up and will probably have to play catch up for most of the game but what is wrong with a little challenge? ... lol.
Just an FYI, I have some of the submissions reviewed, done and some players are selected for certain tables. The moves will happen soonish depending on storyline at the certain tables.
I have a few to finish off and get placed yet, but things are rolling along with this.
For those who are still lingering here, and have not submitted crunches just pop in if you are still seriously interested. There seem to be a lot of people who did rolls but I never saw a submission. Spots are filling up.
For those who were waiting on a new table, that is not likely to happen at this time, as most of the submitters are filling current spots, and ideally I don't want to actually start a new table. I know some current players had hoped to kick off a second character on a new table, but that is on hold for now, as I would rather focus on the tables we have.
Something special or different may come of it, but not anything particular anytime soon.
I'm waiting to hear back about a job I've applied for (should get the word this week). If I get it, I'll have to be going to training for a while and there's no way I'll be able to meet the posting requirements. If I don't, I will likely drop back by. To go with the sheer ridiculous insanity that this looks like it may be, I think a Kobold would be a great fit. Not sure what all classes, but definitely PrCing Dragon Disciple at some point in some class.
Good luck with your job app!
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That's worse than the 90 option, so the 90 option it is.
(If there's one thing building my first character for this taught me, it's that in the event something special happens I should roll early. Just so I'll have had plenty of time for it to settle out by the time you actually want another table! =p (oh and I'm home from work b/c the sky dumped infinite rain, so might as well play around in excel.)
Well, I didn't get the job I was applying for, so I will be submitting a character here. Unfortunately, I'm away from my computer for a couple of days, but I should have something worked up inside a week. I'm wanting to do a Kobold, so in the meantime, could I get this list?
Kobold can purchase alternate racial traits (instead of replacing other traits) for the following costs:
Too many to list, consult with DM)
I believe the intent of that is "ask the DM for ones you actually want."
This seems completely ridiculous. Luckily that's what I like :p Don't know if I'm too late but this will be a fun character to make anyway :p
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So 17, 17, 16, 13, 13, 10 and I can add another 10 points one to one? Damn that's nuts. Anyway, should probably get back to reading the rules
@Ouachitonian: just select a few that seem of interest, and I can calculate out the point cost. I didn't do the whole list because its not a cost effective use of my time :)
@Peanuts: You take the bonus 10 points and split them up however you like. Your base scores cannot exceed 18 before racial modifiers, RP racial purchases, and level adjustments.
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As a side note, recruitment is always open, new additions at this point will either go to a newly formed table, or replace drop outs from the current ones. The latest wave of recruits has replaced all open slots, so we are back to equilibrium now.
So I could for instance turn that into 18(+1), 18(+1), 16, 16(+3), 14(+1), 14(+4) or similar. Fair enough about the spots being filled. I'll just slowly work on this then and see what I come up with :)
Hmm, so the restriction on no psionics yet, does that apply to the occult adventures classes as well or just the dreamscarred press stuff? Apologies if that's been answered, a few too many posts to check through :p
It's just Dreamscarred press. Occult adventures is allowed.
You could use those stats, though I'm curious to see what character would not want 4 18s and a 10 instead...
hmm cool. I'm currently looking at a Rogue/Kineticist(Elemental Ascetic)/Something Martial(Brawler?) Bugbear :p haven't quite decided on how the stats will go yet, still reading stuff
@Peanuts: Elemental Ascetics are pretty awesome, and Brawler advances your damage nicely—but that can be substituted with feats, and your flurries wot stack. I'd recommend adding a class that gives a good will save in there somewhere, since it's tristalt.
Also—if you're struggling to make choices, my suggestion is to pick two classes based on what you want to achieve, and the third based on story. Otherwise, there's just so many options...
Bugbears are neat, though Hobgoblins get racial archetypes, which are cool. (Ironskin Monk solves some of the issues MCing with monk instead of brawler). And there's a lot of other cool races, from a story standpoint.
mmm, I think I'll go with Brawler anyway, even with doubling up on flurry they have some very nice abilities :) Will is an issue but i like how those three classes fit together already. Hmmm... I could just wait until Twin Mind becomes available and make sure I get Will saves there :p
Fair enough. It's more that you're basically going with stacking three melee-focused classes, which might limit the number of situations you feel invested in (I've seen other people cautioned against going full-pure martial in this recruitment iirc; you'll already be hitting hard enough with any of those twoo classes that the third one will probably not matter much when you can already drop any single enemy on a full-attack).
There are also ways to make Will saves irrelevant; Goodwin Golems get a pretty big bonus, but Ghorans are immune to basically everything that requires a Will save.
If you are still looking around, Sandman Bard and Sanctified Slayer Inquisitor both give you sneak attacks and almost as many skills as a rogue, while also shoring up major weaknesses and giving good spellcasting, although the flavor gets wacky. Investigator functions similarly, although it's a bit tougher on action economy. And VMC or cheese dipping Monk solves a lot of class feature access stuff.
well, I was picturing the Kineticist as sort of non martial... I k now I took the Ascetic archetype but they can still do some spell-like things with their infusions and some other wacky stuff. I was intitially going to throw in a divine spellcasting class but then I checked out the Kineticist and that seemed to fit the spellcasting bill instead.
Hmm, I'll check out Ghoran and Sandman Bard, they may be able to work with the concept that's been bubbling away in my head (basically a big cuddly melee brute :p bit dim but very friendly and cheerful unless someone messes with his friends).
EDIT: No, I don't think sandman or inquisitor work. Will look at Druid or Oracle and see if I could fit them in.
Ascetic Kineticists aren't pure-melee; they get some utility talents, but it's very limited by elements. The big thing, though, is that they get as many attacks at the same BAB as a brawler, and huge and scaling boosts (Powerful Fist)—with empower metakinesis, at level 19 we're talking 4.5d12 bonus damage, an average of +29 damage per hit over a LOT of hits (because flurry) plus a free trip or bull rush on each hit; but with a move action to gather power and a composite blast (extremely easy once you hit mythic 2) this goes up to +72 damage per hit, leaps and bounds above anything sneak attack can accomplish.
The Elemental Ascetic is actually one of the more powerful martial archetypes in the game, far outstripping even the Elemental Annihilator. But its lack of buffs or specialization mean that it really shines when combined with something else via VMC or gestalt, because otherwise it's basically a melee damage glass cannon.
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Also if you're considering oracle, check out warsighted. And if you want a character who protects their friends, there's some cool stuff you can do with bodyguard and combat reflexes that a melee character might enjoy.
What's VMC stand for by the way? Something Multi Class?
Yeah I thought the kinetic fist seemed strong. you can get the composite blast if you're willing to take some burn even without mythic (the reason I was looking at barbarian for that d12 hit dice).
Anyway, I think I've settled on Kineticist(Elemental Ascetic)/Brawler(Steel-Breaker)/Bard(Flame Dancer, Songhealer). Didn't really want to get rid of either Rogue or Brawler, but the bard archetypes fit better in with the theme/idea than any of the other classes with a d10 hit dice, so Rogue ended up going. Will have to cheese dip Rogue instead of Ranger I guess, or... we'll see.
As to bodyguard etc. I haven't even thought about feats yet :p I'll keep that in mind though.
Might end up changing his race now he's going to be going fire primary rather than earth... hm.
Anyway, thanks for the help.I should probably get to bed now but I've made some decent progress at least :p
EDIT: Hehehe, Ogre with Rock Throwing. Fastball special anyone?
@Ouachitonian: just select a few that seem of interest, and I can calculate out the point cost. I didn't do the whole list because its not a cost effective use of my time :)
@Peanuts: You take the bonus 10 points and split them up however you like. Your base scores cannot exceed 18 before racial modifiers, RP racial purchases, and level adjustments.
--As a side note, recruitment is always open, new additions at this point will either go to a newly formed table, or replace drop outs from the current ones. The latest wave of recruits has replaced all open slots, so we are back to equilibrium now.
What about the existing players that submit second characters? :)
@Archlich: Those who have made second characters are also in that batch, waiting for a potential new table. Right now, I have two submissions from current players, and a new player' submission (Ilia) just waiting for me to complete the review. There has been other people posting on the thread and a few rolls, but no other submitted crunches so far.
I'm still waiting on the answers to my questions about throwing magus...
Tentatively thinking of a Kobold who wants to prove to the world that his people can be mighty fighters for good, not just sneaky, cunning, and evil. Hunter, prestiging into Dragon Disicple via the Scaled Disciple feat is a lock (thought about Bloodrager, but rage makes it hard to do things with my other classes, so...). Otherwise mostly martial, thinking probably Kensai going into Duelist (since going dex over strength works well with my racials), the other is what I'm still working on. Monk, Warpriest, or Fighter are the leading contenders, with one of the others probably becoming my first cheese dip. I like the full BAB and (even more!) feats of the fighter, but the monk's features (especially bonus AC since as a Kensai I likely won't be wearing armor) and Warpriest's spells and damage boosts are pretty appealing.
I'm still waiting on the answers to my questions about throwing magus...
Yes, I haven't had time to dissect all the rules and come to a consensus on it. I assume most people want me to focus on running the tables I have so far, which is what I am concentrating on for now.
I do think another table may manifest in the future. I might have special plans for it depending how the stories unfold and what happens in the world.
Yes, no worries, I can wait.
@Ouachitonian: I'll be PMing you some advice if you're looking for it.
oooh, special plans eh? Awesome.
@Ouachitonian: I'll be PMing you some advice if you're looking for it.
I appreciate it. That was indeed why I posted general plans, I figured someone might have some advice.
Query: let's say that, in addition to PrCing Dragon Disciple (from Hunter, I don't have any existing bloodline levels), I cheese dip sorcerer. Does my bloodline advancement stack, even on overlapping levels? ie DD from 10-20, so on cheese dip levels 12, 16, and 20, do I jump 2 levels higher for my effective bloodline level?
*opens notepad* This is one of those wonderfully complicated builds where I don't even care if I get in, just brainstorming according to these rules is going to be a treat.