Upcoming Dark Archive (Remastered) with Subscription Question


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I have question on the upcoming Dark Archive book and if or how I'm going to be charged considering I also have a Subscription(it was originally for the Remastered editions) and I also already own the original and it is shown on my Digital Content.

I'm asking this because when they released the Guns & Gear (Remastered) version there was no charge for the new Remastered PDF file because I already owned the original version but I also neither requested nor was charged for a physical copy but presently when check My Subscriptions it shows that I'm being charged for the Hardcover and the only options are Skip the Product or Cancel Subscription.

I'm just curious if anybody has seen anything in regard to this. I'm not sure if I really want to rebuy the book particularly considering the Guns & Gear books changes were not so large as to warrant rebuying.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I'm in a similar situation. Part of me wonders if with the change in the store, whether they are able to link the update without selling new hard cover. I don't know that I need a new $65 book for what are likely to be only minor updates to a book that I enjoy but my players are not much for that aspect/genre.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Well hopefully we'll get some kind of answer because put in a Support ticket with them asking about this specific issue, I'll post any updates here as I receive them


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Honestly if it is a serious rewrite I would probably repurchase the book but if it's along the level change as was done in the Guns and Gears book I really don't see the point myself.

All that being said the book that I really hope they revisited the most but unfortunately doesn't seem to be on the list is the Secrets Of Magic and it's all because so much of the content is tied to the Old Schools of Magic Pre-OGL, I'm just hoping that it might be part of the Impossible Book or whatever working title they give the book that will have the Runesmith and the Necromancer in it but that is a wait and see.

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J R 528 wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get some kind of answer because put in a Support ticket with them asking about this specific issue, I'll post any updates here as I receive them

This is what I was going to suggest you do, so I'm glad you did it! Please hang tight while Customer Service gets back to you!


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Still nothing back on my Support ticket other than an automated response. Hopefully I hear something soon being as Dark Archives is scheduled for Jan 20 per the Schedule Manager.


Do you even need a subscription to get errata to digital products?


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Captain Morgan wrote:
Do you even need a subscription to get errata to digital products?

If its treated as errata, no. I got the Guns & Gears updated PDF on my account without having to do anything, and I never had a subscription (shipping costs to Canada are rough). I got it from a Humble Bundle.


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What is up with the Dark Archives remaster? It seems to be treated differently than the Guns and Gears, because it is set up on the subscription. However, if it is on subscription, then is listed as being released on January 20th. If that is the "street date" then cards should have been charged, and PDF's released. If it is the charge date, then the store needs to indicate that.

For me, the new store continues to be a disappointment, and somehow the entire process is even more opaque than before.


Parry wrote:

What is up with the Dark Archives remaster? It seems to be treated differently than the Guns and Gears, because it is set up on the subscription. However, if it is on subscription, then is listed as being released on January 20th. If that is the "street date" then cards should have been charged, and PDF's released. If it is the charge date, then the store needs to indicate that.

For me, the new store continues to be a disappointment, and somehow the entire process is even more opaque than before.

The 20th is the day subscribers will be charged and PDFs will be distributed.


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Parry wrote:

What is up with the Dark Archives remaster? It seems to be treated differently than the Guns and Gears, because it is set up on the subscription. However, if it is on subscription, then is listed as being released on January 20th. If that is the "street date" then cards should have been charged, and PDF's released. If it is the charge date, then the store needs to indicate that.

For me, the new store continues to be a disappointment, and somehow the entire process is even more opaque than before.

There are tons of software companies out there offering "off the shelf" software products that actually require TONS of customization for their customers. In almost every case, these companies over-promise and under deliver to their customers. They develop as they go; can't deliver what they promise; and delay product from being what it's expected to be sometime years (or never) what it was supposed to be. I'm betting Paizo found themselves with just such a vendor for their store.


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Squark wrote:
Parry wrote:

What is up with the Dark Archives remaster? It seems to be treated differently than the Guns and Gears, because it is set up on the subscription. However, if it is on subscription, then is listed as being released on January 20th. If that is the "street date" then cards should have been charged, and PDF's released. If it is the charge date, then the store needs to indicate that.

For me, the new store continues to be a disappointment, and somehow the entire process is even more opaque than before.

The 20th is the day subscribers will be charged and PDFs will be distributed.

Thanks! It was unclear to me at least what the date represented.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

The response I got was:
Thank you for reaching out to us. If you wish to not receive the Dark Archive (Remastered) you'll need to skip the order in the Subscription Manager page. Once that happen, you should not be charged for the upcoming subscription item.

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I asked a follow up about how Dark Archive (Remaster) differed from Guns and Gears (Remaster) and haven't heard back yet.


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Have you heard anything else? I just got the notification that it was included in the next subscription package which was a surprise and now I'm wondering if I should remove it and if I do if I'll get the remaster PDF...


I too am curious about this.
So far I've only need the Remastered PDF.

I sent an inquiry to CS to ask of we need to skip this product and if we will receive the Remastered PDF for free on Release day.

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I'd like to hear an answer - just created a ticket myself, was hoping there'd be some clarity from Paizo before the subscriptions ship. The clock is almost run out.

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From Avi Henriquez on Bluesky Link

Text of link:
Great news from Jim that he said we could share with customers: Folks who own the PDF of the original Pathfinder Dark Archive will be getting the Remastered PDF for free in February!

So it seems cancelling the physical book shouldn’t affect your order. At least, I hope so since I’ve done it. Could do with official clarification of the situation here, rather than on BlueSky, though.

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I just got a response from support - yes, existing owners will get the updated pdf on the street date.

Paizo support wrote:
Thanks for reaching out. This will happen for the Pathfinder Dark Archive (Remastered) as well! As long as you already owned the PDF of the original Pathfinder Dark Archive, you'll get a copy of the Pathfinder Dark Archive (Remastered) on February 4th! Please let me know if you have more questions!


Hey Everyone, I just got confirmation for CS, those who do have purchased DA prior will get their free PDF Remaster update on the release date, Feb 4th. Buf you will need to skip the physical product on your subscription page.


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Paul Watson wrote:

From Avi Henriquez on Bluesky Link

Text of link:
Great news from Jim that he said we could share with customers: Folks who own the PDF of the original Pathfinder Dark Archive will be getting the Remastered PDF for free in February!

So it seems cancelling the physical book shouldn’t affect your order. At least, I hope so since I’ve done it. Could do with official clarification of the situation here, rather than on BlueSky, though.

Jim Butler posted in the Paizo Announcements forum


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Prince Maleus wrote:
Hey Everyone, I just got confirmation for CS, those who do have purchased DA prior will get their free PDF Remaster update on the release date, Feb 4th. Buf you will need to skip the physical product on your subscription page.

Not on Jan. 20 as previously reported? :(

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Ravingdork wrote:
Prince Maleus wrote:
Hey Everyone, I just got confirmation for CS, those who do have purchased DA prior will get their free PDF Remaster update on the release date, Feb 4th. Buf you will need to skip the physical product on your subscription page.
Not on Jan. 20 as previously reported? :(

That’s the date it goes to subscribers of the remastered physical book. Those of us who have the original need to wait for it to go live for everyone to get updated.

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I bought the Dark Archive pdf as there is a sale ongoing and i still had a coupon.
I can already download the remastered pdf, looks like it was updated two days ago (last updated 1/16/2026)


Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

I bought the Dark Archive pdf as there is a sale ongoing and i still had a coupon.

I can already download the remastered pdf, looks like it was updated two days ago (last updated 1/16/2026)

Mine is still showing as updated May 2022, so this hasn't rolled out to everyone yet.


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Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

I bought the Dark Archive pdf as there is a sale ongoing and i still had a coupon.

I can already download the remastered pdf, looks like it was updated two days ago (last updated 1/16/2026)

Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

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QuidEst wrote:
Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

mine references player core and divine mysteries.

I did not find a lot of changes, but can say that Imaginary Weapon was nerfed to d6


Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

mine references player core and divine mysteries.

I did not find a lot of changes, but can say that Imaginary Weapon was nerfed to d6

Ah, thanks! Well, I know folks will be very curious to hear what changed in the two classes (myself included), even if it's just reports on things that stayed the same.

My personal curiosities are whether the Chalice implement got any changes, and if Psychic got any notable improvements like "an extra spell slot". That latter one sounds like at least a "not at first glance".


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Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

mine references player core and divine mysteries.

I did not find a lot of changes, but can say that Imaginary Weapon was nerfed to d6

Was the touch up to imaginary weapon the only real psychic change?

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oh, found a big change: psychic archetype loses the amp, you get the amp at lvl 6.
that kills the psychic dip (and the reason i bought the book for pfs...)


QuidEst wrote:
Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

I bought the Dark Archive pdf as there is a sale ongoing and i still had a coupon.

I can already download the remastered pdf, looks like it was updated two days ago (last updated 1/16/2026)
Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

Same here. I picked it up by noticing the psychic was still trained in Occult Spell Attacks and Occult Spell DCs.

Also, unrelated, but the library looks much neater now, with the "Single File" and "File Per Chapter" tags visible on the downloads; glad to see it, and thanks Paizo people.


QuidEst wrote:
Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

I bought the Dark Archive pdf as there is a sale ongoing and i still had a coupon.

I can already download the remastered pdf, looks like it was updated two days ago (last updated 1/16/2026)
Mine also says updated 1/16/2026, and it is the pre-remaster (based on "flat-footed" and references to the Advanced Player's Guide). So sadly, no early leak. (Although I'm sure Paizo's IT is happy to have not accidentally released it early.)

edit - nevermind, I thought it was the new one in the new library but it appears to still be the old one with that 1/16/2026 date.

That's confusing.

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Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

oh, found a big change: psychic archetype loses the amp, you get the amp at lvl 6.

that kills the psychic dip (and the reason i bought the book for pfs...)

How did they change the dedication to balance that out? Is it just an extra cantrip of choice or something else?


It’s pure loss.


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I'm seeing some post on reddit about the changes and I'm seriously disappointed. If there was a class that needed buffs it was the psychic.

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Someone posted some of the changes for the psychic here:

Reddit Post

Assuming they caught all the changes (always a risk with preliminary reddit user screening) its a pretty bleak story for the Psychic. They nerfed it and didn't do anything to compensate for the massive power increase/glow-up other casters got now that they can re-focus every 10 mins. Still a 2 spell per rank caster, with nerfed amped focus spells who gets stupefied in round 4 and loses their main class benefit.

Not like those 4 spells per rank oracles who actually just got a second class focus pool via cursebound trait options or those wiley 4 spells per rank (at a mild delay) animists that can also start with 2 focus points and who have good focus spells as well.

Now I know why they didn't run any PR for this remaster book. Someone realized after they sent it to the printers that they beefed it.

Awaiting the thaumaturge changes. At the bottom of that reddit post someone wrote:
- Chalice scales better / buffed in other ways
- Lantern intensify better
- Mirror adept is now a 'Can' choose to explode
- Wand does better damage more often
- Paired Link huge buff

So hoping they didn't stealth nerf other things in my favourite class. Some glimmer of hope.


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Well, it's new Paizo book season. Let's make sure to all do our duty and doompost really hard about secondhand spoilers presented out of context.


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No idea why people convinced themselves that psychic was getting anything beyond very minor changes. Now we're going to get people all upset because they didn't get what they built up in their heads.


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It seems the psychic didn't even get minor changes, just nerfs.

And the thaumaturge was seemingly buffed for whatever reason.

I'm honestly flabbergasted. Paizo keeps buffing strong classes and either nerfing or leaving as is weak classes.


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Eh, from what I heard, Psychic had two significant issues fixed.
- Unleash Psyche now applies to initial damage of duration spells, solving issues with Daze and sustained damage spells.
- Psychic Dedication no longer gives most of the class' advantages away for a second level feat. At least to me, that's as much of a "buff" as the refocus change was a "nerf".

And yeah, one cantrip's damage went down while it got switched from physical to force damage.

It all sounds like normal errata, not the class getting nerfed like some folks are saying. I'd have loved an extra slot, sure, but fixing Unleash Psyche not working with so many damage spells was the boring practical thing I was hoping to have covered.

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As far as Thaumaturge goes, it had some of the weakest options shored up. You can't actually make a stronger Thaumaturge than you could before; you just aren't in quite as much trouble if you pick Wand, and you're not shooting yourself in the foot for "upgrading" Mirror.


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Red Griffyn wrote:

Someone posted some of the changes for the psychic here:

Reddit Post

Assuming they caught all the changes (always a risk with preliminary reddit user screening) its a pretty bleak story for the Psychic. They nerfed it and didn't do anything to compensate for the massive power increase/glow-up other casters got now that they can re-focus every 10 mins. Still a 2 spell per rank caster, with nerfed amped focus spells who gets stupefied in round 4 and loses their main class benefit.

Not like those 4 spells per rank oracles who actually just got a second class focus pool via cursebound trait options or those wiley 4 spells per rank (at a mild delay) animists that can also start with 2 focus points and who have good focus spells as well.

Now I know why they didn't run any PR for this remaster book. Someone realized after they sent it to the printers that they beefed it.

Awaiting the thaumaturge changes. At the bottom of that reddit post someone wrote:
- Chalice scales better / buffed in other ways
- Lantern intensify better
- Mirror adept is now a 'Can' choose to explode
- Wand does better damage more often
- Paired Link huge buff

So hoping they didn't stealth nerf other things in my favourite class. Some glimmer of hope.

The imaginary weapon nerf is so reactionary to the community its embarrassing. You can still pick it up 6 but its just weakened for the base class itself. Which is so weird to me, the amped focus cantrip needs to be better than other class focus spell AND needs to beat out other amped psi cantrips because it needs to be cast melee. Now its barely a side-grade and still needs you be in melee and risk reactive strikes. They couldve simply made it so you cant pickup the exclusive amped cantrips.


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exequiel759 wrote:
It seems the psychic didn't even get minor changes, just nerfs.

Makes sense to me. Everyone and their grandmother was dipping psychic. That's a red flag for Paizo.


Let's see, with the d6 nerf IW is still the spell of choice for non-halfling magi that plan to use save spells. Halflings can leverage their +dex/+wis/+free statline to go into cleric for fire ray and/or withering grasp just fine. The choice is more competitive now I guess?

IW has the best damage type.

Fire ray forces movement or does bonus damage, but fire is a mediocre damage type.

Withering grasp does less up front damage with xd12s instead of 2xd6s but does some persistent damage and has a good typing in void with some built in immunity pierce.

You can also choose to be funny, select green faith as your deity, and pick up both focus spells at 4 and 8. Covers you cleanly when one is resisted/immune.

gaulin wrote:
No idea why people convinced themselves that psychic was getting anything beyond very minor changes. Now we're going to get people all upset because they didn't get what they built up in their heads.

Perhaps it has something to do with all those other classes that got impactful modifications in the remaster.


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doortobe wrote:
The imaginary weapon nerf is so reactionary to the community its embarrassing. You can still pick it up 6 but its just weakened for the base class itself. Which is so weird to me, the amped focus cantrip needs to be better than other class focus spell AND needs to beat out other amped psi cantrips because it needs to be cast melee. Now its barely a side-grade and still needs you be in melee and risk reactive strikes. They couldve simply made it so you cant pickup the exclusive amped cantrips.

What annoys me is that this feels like such a superficial reaction, as well. People didn't complain that imaginary weapon was too good on the Psychic, the criticism was that it synergized too well with the Magus, and that's something that changing the MC archetype would have fixed. The community consensus on the Psychic class itself was that the class sorely needed buffs to keep up with caster buffs that stole their thunder, so nerfing a key reason for picking the class to such a degree that regular cantrips like gouging claw do a better job is ridiculous. Part of me hopes that this leak is just some draft that somehow turns out different from the final release, but I'm not holding my breath.


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Teridax wrote:
People didn't complain that imaginary weapon was too good on the Psychic, the criticism was that it synergized too well with the Magus, and that's something that changing the MC archetype would have fixed.

It appears that amped cantrips can no longer be used with Spellstrike, anyway.

Reportedly the text now says

Quote:
You can apply an amp only to a psi cantrip, spending 1 Focus Point as a free action. If the next action you take is to cast a psi cantrip, you gain its amped effects.

You can't spend the focus point as a free action during the Spellstrike, and activating Spellstrike after spending the focus point would mean that your next action wasn't casting the psi cantrip so the cantrip wouldn't be amped.

So there's no way to use an amped cantrip as part of a Spellstrike.

The previous wording let you spend the focus point as part of casting the cantrip so it worked with Spellstrike back then.

So the changes to the Psychic Archetype weren't necessary to prevent the most overpowered part of the Magus/Psychic combo.

The old version of Imaginary Weapon would still have delivered slightly higher damage than the non-psi cantrips, but the overpowered Amp + Spellstrike option wouldn't have been available.

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As any Magus player knows, there's no kill like overkill. Why stop at taking away a focus point from psychic dedication maguses when you can also nerf IW damage and then irrevocably destroy the corpse by making amps incompatible with spellstrike anyway?


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Tsubutai wrote:
As any Magus player knows, there's no kill like overkill. Why stop at taking away a focus point from psychic dedication maguses when you can also nerf IW damage and then irrevocably destroy the corpse by making amps incompatible with spellstrike anyway?

None of that is a problem. Psychic archetype was incredibly strong in general and way over the line on Magus. Fixing that is exactly what the community asked for.

And why would anyone expect the extra focus point to stick around? The remaster changed how focus pools work across the board so it's based on how many focus spells you have. Why would Psychic be any different on that? Anyone who thought bonus focus points from a dedication would survive the remaster wide focus pool rework was fooling themselves.

The problem is that Psychic the Class isn't great, went backwards in the remaster due to other casters going forward with things like the focus pool changes, and doesn't appear to have gotten anything to help with that. This is a 6HP class with no armor proficiency that needs to wade into melee to use Imaginary Weapon, so nerfing it on the class itself is harsh.

(I am glad to see some of Thaumaturge's weaker implements get some love. The class itself is great and it has several really good implements, but a few were left behind. Tweaking those is a nice adjustment.)


Gisher wrote:

It appears that amped cantrips can no longer be used with Spellstrike, anyway.

Reportedly the text now says

Quote:
You can apply an amp only to a psi cantrip, spending 1 Focus Point as a free action. If the next action you take is to cast a psi cantrip, you gain its amped effects.
You can't spend the focus point as a free action during the Spellstrike, and activating Spellstrike after spending the focus point would mean that your next action wasn't casting the psi cantrip so the cantrip wouldn't be amped.

That's also what perplexes me. The changes to the dedication and amps are pretty much exactly what I'd personally wanted, and they'd neatly address the Spellstrike combo with imaginary weapon. There was no reason in my opinion to nerf the cantrip at all. I'm really struggling to understand the thought process that led to nerfing the Psychic when the class is already struggling.


At the very least, 2d6 force would make it in line with Ignition, what disappoints me is this. If it's gonna have the same damage as Ignition, I feel it should have an alternate 2d4 ranged force option at a 30-foot range.

I mean, Thaleon's Iconic Encounter even shows him with hovering Imaginary Weapons, and references that he "shot" the blade toward the woman as if it was a projectile.

(Though this is partially a selfish reason. Expedition 33 had earlier made me workshopping a mime, and naturally I ran into the Imaginary Weapon limitation, I resolved the ranged options with a reflavored Injury Echo, but the realization that Imaginary Weapon essentially does Ignition damage makes me honestly ask why it cannot also do Ignition ranged damage now.

But I do like the idea of miming, painting, etcetera-ing a ranged weapon in addition to melee weapons.


Gisher wrote:

It appears that amped cantrips can no longer be used with Spellstrike, anyway.

Reportedly the text now says

Quote:
You can apply an amp only to a psi cantrip, spending 1 Focus Point as a free action. If the next action you take is to cast a psi cantrip, you gain its amped effects.

You can't spend the focus point as a free action during the Spellstrike, and activating Spellstrike after spending the focus point would mean that your next action wasn't casting the psi cantrip so the cantrip wouldn't be amped.

So there's no way to use an amped cantrip as part of a Spellstrike.

Well, if that is the exact wording and not paraphrasing you can still Spellstrike with an Amped psi cantrip. Spellshapes typically demand the next action must specifically be the 'Cast a Spell' action and that is what makes it incompatible with Spellstrike, but Amp as is quoted does not restrict what action is used to cast the spell.

The Spellstrike action would definitely qualify as casting a psi cantrip and thus gain the amped effects.

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