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A Pixie is a Tiny Creature with a reach of 0 by default.
Kaiju Stance takes whatever size a creature is and makes them Large.
Large creatures have a default reach of 5 feet if long and 10 feet in tall.
Will Kaiju Stance increase the range of the Pixies natural reach due to their increase in size or no since it was not mentioned in the increases it gains from going into Kaiju Stance.
(I know Kaiju Stance has an attack with Reach, but I am not asking about the attack itself)

HammerJack |
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It is not like 1E. Size does not directly apply a default reach. There's just a table of common expectations of reach. Size-changing abilities only modify reach if they specifically say that they do.

Tridus |
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I'm pretty sure that it's not intentional for a large creature to have 0' reach and the rules simply don't account for it in spells and such.
The rules that say Sprite PCs have no reach are in a section titled "Tiny PCs", and say this (emphasis mine):
PCs are typically Small or Medium size, but most sprite PCs are Tiny instead! Being Tiny comes with its own set of rules about space and reach. Your Tiny sprite can enter another creature's space, which is important because your melee Strikes typically have no reach, meaning you must enter their space to attack them. Like other Tiny creatures, you don't automatically receive lesser cover from being in a larger creature's space, but circumstances might allow you to Take Cover. You can purchase weapons, armor, and other items for your size with the same statistics as normal gear, except that melee weapons have a reach of 0 for you (or a reach 5 feet shorter than normal if they have the reach trait). Remember to adjust the Bulk of items and your Bulk limit for Tiny size (see Items and Sizes).
If you consider both the heading and that sentence, it's pretty clear everything in that paragraph is talking about a tiny PC. If you're suddenly not tiny, there's no reason it should apply anymore. (The Pixie Heritage makes you small, for example and there's no reason to assume a Pixie is intended to have 0' reach.)
This would get even sillier if you found an effect that makes you small/medium/large but doesn't add reach, since now you'd be too big to enter most other creatures squares but would have to do that in order to attack them.

PossibleCabbage |

Well, the Pixie heritage for the Sprite ancestry already makes you small, not tiny, so you'd have 5' of reach naturally. If you then go into Kaiju stance you'd have 5' of reach but your attacks have reach so you can attack 10' away, you now take up four squares.
If you weren't a pixie but, a draxie or a grig for example, if an effect made you no longer tiny the rules for tiny PCs would stop applying, so you'd have the normal 5' of reach.

Deriven Firelion |

Deriven Firelion wrote:Kaiju Stance? Is that a new monk stance?Yes. Kaiju Stance.
Well ain't that interesting. That's a cool stance that might be fun to try.

Finoan |
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You're... gonna have to convince your GM to "have encountered a Kaiju and survived" though, unless a Mightyfall Kobold could count :p
What that should be is that the feat is Uncommon, so you will need to talk to your GM about getting access to it.
The mechanics can be re-themed. It doesn't necessarily have to be centered around Kaiju lore and flavor.

Claxon |

Well, the Pixie heritage for the Sprite ancestry already makes you small, not tiny, so you'd have 5' of reach naturally. If you then go into Kaiju stance you'd have 5' of reach but your attacks have reach so you can attack 10' away, you now take up four squares.
If you weren't a pixie but, a draxie or a grig for example, if an effect made you no longer tiny the rules for tiny PCs would stop applying, so you'd have the normal 5' of reach.
Yeah, Sprite's don't have any "special" reach applying to them. They're just following the normal rules for reach based on size.
Tiny character's have 0' reach.
Small and medium character's have 5ft reach.
Large (tall) characters typically have 10ft reach.
I would argue anyone using Kaiju stance (because it's a polymorph effect) should probably have 10ft reach unless there's something special about your ancestry that modifies your reach (and Sprite's don't, they have typical reach for their size).
On top of that, Kaiju stance's Earth Shattering attacks (which are the only ones you can make) have the reach trait. Meaning you should up being able to attack 15' away.
The idea of making a sprite monk with kaiju stance sounds kind of amazing honestly.

Claxon |

I believe the standard for Large characters is that while you take up four squares instead of 1, you still only get 5'of reach. It's just that to represent your largeness there tends to be something related that can give you Reach (like the Kaiju Stance attacks or the Minotaur's Stretching Reach.)
What are you basing that on?
Based on these rules I would expect large (tall) to have 10ft reach and large (long) to have 5ft reach. And they explain that tall is typically bipeds (normal humanoid shape) and long is quadruped.
Also, let's ignore anything specific to Sprite's or being tiny.
Because the way I read Kaiju stance is that you are polymorphed into a large version of yourself.
So whether you play as a halfling, a human, or a sprite when you use kaiju stance you become a large version of yourself.
And as far as I can see, there is nothing special about the reach of sprites, only a reminder that due to their tiny size sprite's have a reach of 0. So there's no reason to treat them differently than a halfling or human.

Kelseus |

Large creatures do not get reach by default. A Young Horned Dragon is large, but its claw attack does not have reach. All Large bears, horses, camels, Catoblepas hoof attack, Aeolaekas azata, ankhravs, chimera, etc.
Even some Huge creatures don't have reach for all their attacks. Alicorn horn attack, caustic monitor talon, dragon turtle claws.