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For those of you who don’t know me, I semi-regularly make conversion guides for Pathfinder 1e Adventure Paths into Pathfinder 2e and publish them on Pathfinder Infinite (check my profile for more info on that). This thread is to be my connection to my personal conversion guide of Wrath of the Righteous.
I will be using this thread as a changelog for my conversion guide. I will be going through and converting things as I read through the AP, which is also as I will be building my FoundryVTT world (see FAQ) for the campaign I will inevitably run using this conversion guide. Do not expect me to necessarily update this on a regular basis. I’ll need the spoons to be able to do this, and real life happens.
Currently what’s in that google drive folder is a bunch of random stuff that I made as I was throwing stuff against the proverbial wall waiting for War of Immortals to release. It will eventually be trimmed down to the following:
Foreword My regular opening spiel regarding how I do my conversion guides.
Players’ Guide A document to be given to players that is meant to be a supplementary document for the regular Players’ Guide. Initially a work-in-progress, as I’ll be filling it out as I make my conversion guide.
Books 1 through 6, each as their own separate document
Appendices
And with that, I hope you all enjoy what I have to offer.
”Oh, you’re making this in Foundry? Can I have a copy of the Foundry files?” No. I’m constantly changing things in the conversion document, then making sure Foundry reflects that, and all of that jazz. If I start providing my Foundry stuff then that’s just another thing I need to keep track of. Plus, I have no idea what the legality of me distributing stuff that uses art I do not own. Frankly, it just gives me greater peace of mind to not have to worry about that stuff.
”I’ve been listening to the Glass Cannon Live Shows; any chance you’d do a conversion guide of Strange Aeons?” I’m sorry, but that’s a hard no. Strange Aeons SPECIFICALLY is in a weird legal space with intellectual property because Pathfinder Infinite explicitly says I can’t convert certain things from those books that are plot-relevant. And I’ve already done a bunch of provenance on TTRPG stuff; trying to do provenance on Lovecraftian stuff is a LOT more intense, and I just can’t.
”Would you convert [this other Adventure Path]?” I dunno, maybe. I only do conversion guides for APs I’ve already read (for obvious reasons), and by reading the AP it basically guarantees that I’ll never be able to experience the story from the player’s side. So while I’d be willing to do a conversion guide for a lot of APs, you have to understand that it also comes with the fact that I’d have to know the AP well enough that it locks me into never really playing it.
“Wait, why are you not publishing this conversion guide on Pathfinder Infinite?” Because…I legally can’t. To heavily simplify things, I cannot use OGL and ORC material in the same product and expect to make money off of it. And I want to use the mythic rules as published by Paizo because that will be, in my opinion, the best way to organically understand how Paizo intended it to be played in 2e.
“Why not just cut out the OGL stuff? You’ve done it for your other conversion guides.” Wrath of the Righteous is a particularly egregious example of how ingrained Dungeons & Dragons has gotten into the TTRPG folklore: the catalyst of the adventure is a named Balor (an OGL creation), a major demonic general is a named Marilith (also an OGL creation), and…Baphomet in general. Anyway, the point is that so so SO much of the narrative of this AP is deeply entrenched in the OGL that it would require surgically removing. And I am no surgeon.
”What’s wrong with Baphomet? He’s not an OGL creation; he’s been a folkloric entity since possibly the 1300s.” It’s not the winged, cloven-hoofed, goat-headed Baphomet that’s the problem. It’s his relationship to minotaurs. Early D&D kinda had a habit of throwing random things against the proverbial wall because it sounded cool instead of trying to adhere to the folkloric roots. Rakshasa had backwards hands, nagas had eerily human heads, etc. And those things stayed in the TTRPG zeitgeist to the modern day. And one of those things is a demonic entity named “Baphomet” being a patron of minotaurs.
The Minotaur is of Greek origin, while Baphomet (at his absolute earliest) is maybe French. These are two cultures that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But early D&D made Baphomet have an association with minotaurs, just because. And when Wrath of the Righteous was written, that D&D zeitgeist was still pretty prevalent in Pathfinder. There is about as much minotaur-with-Baphomet association as there are locusts-with-Deskari associations in this AP. And an entire sixth of the AP takes place in Baphomet’s divine realm of the Ivory Labyrinth, which is meant to be a callback to the original tale of the Minotaur and the Labyrinth, since Baphomet was slated as being the first minotaur in Pathfinder canon. That minotaur-with-Baphomet association is 100% OGL creation, and means that I would have to surgically extract every and all minotaur symbolism in this AP, which is just…way outside of my wheelhouse. Especially considering the Ivory Labyrinth’s weird placement in all of that (since “labyrinth” is only a single association away from “minotaur,” and I’m not rewriting all of Book 5).
And to make matters EVEN MORE convoluted: Baphomet as Paizo presented him is actually a byproduct of the book Tome of Horrors. If you’ve never casually glanced through the OGL legal stuff at the end of earlier Paizo books, you’ll occasionally come across stuff like “Demon Lord, Baphomet from the Tome of Horrors Complete © 2011, Necromancer Games, Inc.” and it’s used multiple times because they have to call out each individual creature from that book that’s used. Without fail. And if Paizo’s own lawyers have to do this whole song-and-dance with that one specific book to make sure they’re not breaking any laws, then I, a guy-with-interest-in-intellectual-property-law-but-is-DEFINITELY-not-a-lawy er, am avoiding anything from that book like the plague.
Baphomet single-handedly made this AP basically unconvertible in a way that I can use to make profit for my work.
”But…if Baphomet made you not be able to make money off of this, then why are you doing this conversion guide?” Because I want to run Wrath of the Righteous in 2e. And to do that I need conversion notes. And I’m not just gonna keep these notes to myself. It’s not about the money, it’s about giving back to this community that I love. Getting money for work I was already going to be doing was just a bonus. When I started my conversion guides nearly 4.5 years ago, I had zero intention of doing it to make money. I’m just going back to my roots at this point.
Alright, I apparently decided to hyperfocus on Foundry coding for my items, so I really didn't get a whole lot of actual conversion done. I basically just got up to area A4.
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I left a message of support on Reddit and I strongly echo it here! Keep going! Looking forward to it!
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I said this on reddit but it bears repeating here:
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your diligence and consideration in navigating the OGL entanglements involved in this project. Not everyone would, and you really set a high bar for conscientious conversions on Infinite for other community members to emulate. Thanks, and keep up the great work.
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Ahem Putting aside my star-struck-ness from that in favor of actually using this thread as a changelog like I said I would:
I decided to do a lot of Foundry coding again for the rest of the random items I’ve got converted so far. I’ve also updated the document up to the end of Part 1. And I also spent a couple hours making a proper statblock for Lann because…I know there are some people out there who wanted him thanks to the CRPG. Plus I just wanted to make a PC-built NPC statblock that wasn’t a freaking human, champion, or rogue XD.
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Updated the document up to the end of Part 2. Additionally, I decided to lower the Nahyndrian chisel’s Activation to one action, since that feels more in line with what an activation that uses a Mythic Point would give.
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Updated the document up to the end of Part 3.
Additionally, I just realized that this adventure basically makes the PCs level 5 for all of two seconds before they become level 6. Which means I have to figure how to stuff...crunches numbers about 1600 gp worth of stuff in the Gray Garrison. Oh boy.
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Really major executive dysfunction day for me. Updated the document up to P5 and retroactively put encounter severity in the headers for each area.
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Updated the document up to P18.
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Updated the document through to the end of Book 1.
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Updated the document through to "Sword of Valor NPCs."
I also adjusted the Sword of Valor's summoning activation to be used by anyone (not just Iomedaeans), but it requires spending a Mythic Point.
I also converted the medals and put it in the Appendices. I explain it more in the conversion, but the medals being actual magic items kinda takes away from the fact that they're, y'know, symbolic of accomplishments like a Medal of Valor or a Purple Heart.
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Updated the document through to area A.
You're doing awesome work, man. I can't wait to follow your progress! Let me know if you need an editor or anything - I may lack your chops, but sometimes a second set of eyes is exactly what is needed.
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Updated the document through to area B
I also updated the hyperlinks in the Appendices now that Player Core 2 is on Nethys.
Also, I apologize that things have been a lot slower since I started working on Book 2; I suddenly had a bunch of real-life stuff (both good and bad) hit me in the face that required my attention.
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Updated the document through to area D3
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Good news! I just found out Areshkagal is in Divine Mysteries, so that means I can get to work converting the Enigma from the cRPG!
This is a joke; I ain't touching the Enigma with a ten-foot pole
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Updated the document through to the end of Part 1.
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Hey, all. I know I've been really slow in updating recently. There’s a couple reasons for that:
1)I’m waiting for the Fall round of errata from Paizo to come, since there’s a handful of things in the mythic rules that definitely need to be affected (like how Mythic Resistance’s rules are printed three separate times and each time is significantly different).
2)I’m neurodivergent and going through a really difficult time right now with trying to find a job and it’s been taking up a lot of my spoons just to get up in the morning.
3)Romantic relationship stuff. I will not elaborate further because that’s extremely personal.
Good to have some free Wrath of the Righteous Conversion guide stuff for PF2e out there, KingTreyIII. ;)
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Updated the document through to Battle 3.
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Updated the document through to, well, when the chimera comes in.
Also, I had to drastically overhaul the Nahyndrian elixir potion because my previous wording made it impossible for it to be used on Soltengrebbe. And it made it really weird to try to figure out how it could canonically kill a level 15 creature (off-handed remark about one being fed to a xacarbe and it not surviving, but the chimera did).
I am aware that I have a wording on Mythic Resistance that's different from normal, but the wording for that ability is not consistent (compare how it's written on pages 168, 183, and 214). The wording that I use is the one that I'm most certain is the RAI; and until we get an erratum on that, then that's what I'm going with.
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Modified Galfrey's stats a bit, most notably to make her with the Mortal Herald archetype (since, y'know, she canonically becomes Iomedae's herald following the events of the AP).
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Also statted out the Suture and started a bare-bones conversion of Areelu.
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Updated the document to the end of Part 2. Most of my energy today was spent doing stuff in Foundry.
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Also COMPLETELY failed to mention that I also added in the NPCs' statblocks for Books 2 and 3 into the Appendix.
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Went through and decided to convert Arushalae and the mechanics for redeeming her. Not fully done with that yet, though.
Also added in a lesser version of Anevia's broken leg to her Book 2 stats, since it's very unlikely that she'd have weeks to properly heal the broken bone.
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Not an update on the conversion, per se, but rather on personal stuff:
I currently just started my first job after getting my degree and am thus just starting to get a feel for working full-time for the first time in my life. As such, I REALLY can't guarantee that I'll be updating my conversion guide with any semblance of regularity as I figure out how to deal with this new paradigm of my life.
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Finished up the statblock(s) for Arushalae.
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Updated the document up through area F15.
I'm also choosing to make the Deadly Striker ability from War of Immortals scale identically to Sneak Attack, because the bonus damage staying 1d6 irrelevant of the creature's level is just gonna become a lot more obsolete as creature damage gets bigger. I think having it scale identically to Sneak Attack allows that particular mythic creature build to stay relevant longer.
I’m hoping to get it appealed and that the admins will see the nuance of things, but just…grumble grumble
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Updated the document through to right before the Drezen dungeon, with the exception of Staunton. I just ran out of spoons.
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So lemme address a minor elephant in the room:
Spore War is apparently coming out with some demons to replace the OGL ones, such as the glabrezu being the treachery demon. I'll very likely use these guys in my conversion guide.
The big problem, though, comes from the fact that there are still major NPCs that are OGL demons. Khorramzedeh, for example. My general rule of thumb is that I stick with the art in the books. Aponivicius is still a marilith because she still has six arms and a serpentine body, and I can't easily find an art replacement for that. As such, I still have to stick with the decision of not selling this on Pathfinder Infinite.
That, and the minotaur connection to Baphomet is still a weird gray area with the OGL.
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Updated the document to include Staunton's statblock.
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Thought I had the energy to actually do more proper converting, but I didn't.
I basically spent the time fine-tuning Deskari's statblock. I also gave Riftcarver the quickstrike rune because...hey, it's a +4 weapon, and this is probably the only time I'll be able to justify making a weapon with four property runes on it XD
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Updated the document through to G6.
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Swapped out all instances of vrocks with the new eshmoks, because...screw WotC.
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FINALLY got around to sitting down and finishing the conversion to the end of Book 2! I am really annoyed that I haven't been able to find the time and energy to sit down regularly and do this.
Honestly, at this point, I'm basically expecting to only find the time to work on my conversion guide on Sundays and MAAAYBE Saturdays.
I'm really hoping that I'll be able to hold myself to that now that I'm starting to find a good balance to not feel completely spent after work.
In other news, I also had to adjust Joran's stats a bit so there is some narrative sense with him being able to work in the corruption forge.
I also finished by official first draft of Deskari's statblock.
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Hi! I don't see any links to the conversions. Is this the case or are they missing? I only see links to the profile and the player book, but no links to the conversions themselves.
P.S. I'm thrilled that you've taken on such a challenging work (and sometimes not the most enjoyable, thanks to WotC). Do you think Paizo themselves won't take on the job of redesigning this AP?
P.P.S. sorry for the bad English, it's not my native language
The very first line of text in my very first post in this thread.
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Hey, KingTreyIII:
I want to express my admiration for your work and the way you're working through adversity. As the author of Tarondor's Guides, I know what it's like when the motivation gets low!
Wrath of the Righteous dearly needs a good PF2e conversion and yours is excellent, so I want to encourage you to keep it up at whatever pace suits you. Keep up the good work!
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Had a bit of difficulty with my executive functioning today, so I couldn't do a whole lot. Though, I did manage to churn out a statblock for Xanthir Vang.
Also modified the Nahyndrian potion's Activation to be one action.