No avid collector-Player Core boon?

[VampByDay]

Looking through the list of boons for ACP, I didn’t see a collector boon for player core. Friend of mine wanted to get an orc knuckle dagger without having to spend a feat, and I thought that would be easy with ACp, but I can’t find it. Am I blind?

[Tomppa]

It was previously printed in Core Rulebook, which Does have an Avid collector boon. However, Avid Collector - Core Rulebook doesn't include it either.

Avid Collector:

The items available are: aeon stone (clear spindle), aeon stone (dull gray), aeon stone (gold nodule), aeon stone (lavender and green ellipsoid), aeon stone (lavender ellipsoid), aeon stone (orange prism), aeon stone (pink rhomboid), aeon stone (tourmaline sphere), bloodletting kukri, brooch of shielding, cape of the mountebank, channel protection amulet, chime of opening, clandestine cloak, dancing rune, dragonslayer’s shield, elven chain, floating shield, forge warden, greater disrupting rune, holy prayer beads, invisibility potion, katana, katar, keen rune, kukri, mending lattice, oil of animation, oil of keen edges, panacea, potion of tongues, ring of counterspells, spell-storing rune, spiked chain, or swift block cabochon

I'm guessing that the reason is that ancestry based weapons aren't meant to be available without taking the appropriate feat. Otherwise, a chunk of elves would rather pay ACP to gain access to elven curved blade or branched spear instead of spending a feat on it, and being able to pay AcP to gain an extra feat seems unlikely / unintended.

[Squark]

There are sometimes scenarios that give access; Burning Dawn gives the opportunity to purchase any orc weapon I believe. The downside is that it is a 5-8 scenario, so it might not be what your friend needs.

[Tomppa]

Squark wrote:

There are sometimes scenarios that give access; Burning Dawn gives the opportunity to purchase any orc weapon I believe. The downside is that it is a 5-8 scenario, so it might not be what your friend needs.

This is unfortunately incorrect.

In Burning Dawn:

It does give access to a specific orc weapon but it's not the orc knuckle dagger. The scenario does have a follow up - scenario 4-15 "In Glorious Battle" but that scenario doesn't give access to any orc weapons.

[Squark]

Tomppa wrote:

Squark wrote:

There are sometimes scenarios that give access; Burning Dawn gives the opportunity to purchase any orc weapon I believe. The downside is that it is a 5-8 scenario, so it might not be what your friend needs.

This is unfortunately incorrect.

** spoiler omitted **

I don't own the scenario, but I remember that besides the reward on the chronicle sheet,

Spoiler:

players get the opportunity to buy uncommon orc weapons specifically at the Orc Camp while playing the scenario (So if you were broke at the moment, you don't have access later). I suppose it's possible my GM misread and the players are only supposed to be able to buy necksplitters.

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Squark wrote:

Tomppa wrote:

Squark wrote:

There are sometimes scenarios that give access; Burning Dawn gives the opportunity to purchase any orc weapon I believe. The downside is that it is a 5-8 scenario, so it might not be what your friend needs.

This is unfortunately incorrect.

** spoiler omitted **

I don't own the scenario, but I remember that besides the reward on the chronicle sheet, ** spoiler omitted **

In Burning Dawn Shopping spoiler:

There are no permanent magic items for sale, but a few
merchants carry minor, lesser, and moderate healing potions,
as well as common alchemical supplies and adventuring
gear of level 5 and lower. Any PCs that wish to find Uirch
discover him adjusting his armor outside his home. As the
PCs approach Uirch, read or paraphrase the following.

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Excluding a chronicle sheet reward your GM was unfortunately mistaken.

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Tomppa wrote:

It was previously printed in Core Rulebook, which Does have an Avid collector boon. However, Avid Collector - Core Rulebook doesn't include it either.

** spoiler omitted **

I'm guessing that the reason is that ancestry based weapons aren't meant to be available without taking the appropriate feat. Otherwise, a chunk of elves would rather pay ACP to gain access to elven curved blade or branched spear instead of spending a feat on it, and being able to pay AcP to gain an extra feat seems unlikely / unintended.

CRB/Player Core access to weapons is sometimes odd, and worse still if you consider the Access rules in Absalom that org play understandably does not use.

That said, the spear is available via ACP https://paizo.com/pathfindersociety/faq#items-available-frequent-shopper

But yeah, those few weapons are one of those few pain points that still persist.

[Tomppa]

Huh, you always learn something new.

Seems a bit weird since most other ancestry weapons aren't available (AFAIK), but it gives another good choice for rogues for a finesse reach weapon now, although at a pretty steep price.

[Ferious Thune]

An elf sees a half-orc wielding an elven branched spear…

Elf: Oh, you have a branched spear. Neat! I had to train from birth and forgo all other ancestry options to get mine. How did you get yours?

Half-orc: I, uh… I… spent achievement points? Yeah…