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Portable Holes IMHO are fundamentally D&D in a way that goes past their name. I'm betting they vanish completely with the loss of OGL because if not they'll need really radical alteration in how they work. That would have to include their classic interactions with bags of holding.
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Doesn't the idea of "Portable Hole" actually come from Looney Tunes in the 1950s? I know there's one in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". It's not actually a thing that's original to D&D.
Doesn't the idea of "Portable Hole" actually come from Looney Tunes in the 1950s? I know there's one in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". It's not actually a thing that's original to D&D.
It's typically not used the same way as in d&d, but yeah. Think it came up most often in coyote/roadrunner cartoons.
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Doesn't the idea of "Portable Hole" actually come from Looney Tunes in the 1950s? I know there's one in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". It's not actually a thing that's original to D&D.It's typically not used the same way as in d&d, but yeah. Think it came up most often in coyote/roadrunner cartoons.
I think the difference is that the portable hole in the cartoons uses cartoon logic i.e. "it does whatever would be funniest." Whereas the RPG version tries to declare specific boundaries for what it does and doesn't do because of the kinds of mindsets that you find in the people who play these games.
I think all you need to really do to make it more like the ACME version than the D&D version is let you put it on walls (or other suitably thin surfaces) in order to walk through them.
Like "if you put it on the ground you get an extra-dimensional space" and if you put it on a wall that's less than like 6' thick, you get a hole in it. That's consistent with how the hole works elsewhere but not in D&D.
Alternatively, Pathfinder just gets to keep its portable holes since it's borrowing from the same place that Gygax did, the same way that Pathfinder gets to have all of Tolkien's fantasy people.
Alternatively, Pathfinder just gets to keep its portable holes since it's borrowing from the same place that Gygax did, the same way that Pathfinder gets to have all of Tolkien's fantasy people.
So why is mithral now dawnsilver/skysilver/whatever?
So why is mithral now dawnsilver/skysilver/whatever?
Because it's Mithril in Tolkien, and D&D changed it to Mithral to distinguish it, so there's a precedent. Remember the goal is to steer as far away from other people's intellectual property that the legal question never comes up.
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Doesn't the idea of "Portable Hole" actually come from Looney Tunes in the 1950s? I know there's one in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". It's not actually a thing that's original to D&D.It's typically not used the same way as in d&d, but yeah. Think it came up most often in coyote/roadrunner cartoons.I think the difference is that the portable hole in the cartoons uses cartoon logic i.e. "it does whatever would be funniest." Whereas the RPG version tries to declare specific boundaries for what it does and doesn't do because of the kinds of mindsets that you find in the people who play these games.
I think all you need to really do to make it more like the ACME version than the D&D version is let you put it on walls (or other suitably thin surfaces) in order to walk through them.
Like "if you put it on the ground you get an extra-dimensional space" and if you put it on a wall that's less than like 6' thick, you get a hole in it. That's consistent with how the hole works elsewhere but not in D&D.
Alternatively, Pathfinder just gets to keep its portable holes since it's borrowing from the same place that Gygax did, the same way that Pathfinder gets to have all of Tolkien's fantasy people.
The wall can be up to ten feet thick. It’s explicitly mentioned in the item description on AoN.