Strangeness about Nodachi's


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So this has sparked a minor debate at my table.

But are Nodachi's meant to be Common weapons, I found it odd they're considered common but the Katana' is considered uncommon I think this was just an oversight and the weapon is meant to be uncommon.


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It's fine that they're common. It means there's actually a common advanced weapon to pick for Tengu Weapon Familiarity. (The Falcata is the other one)


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Less an oversight and more a design philosophy shift I think; Paizo was extremely liberal in slapping the uncommon tag on stuff originally, as of Treasure Vault they've started saving it for weapons that are actually unusual.


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It's something I noticed too. In more recent books, Paizo has stopped abusing the uncommon tag so much. Which is a good thing in my opinion, but it ends up causing some awkwardness.


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if they stopped with it recently I am sure remastered will have a number of weapons go from uncommon to common


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I feel like the change to less use of uncommon has to do with how they noticied people play the game, and also where they ended up going in locales.

At least to me the rarity system and access was focused in Golarion and specifically inner sea lore with the idea that players/dms were supposed to customize at their table and play with access for what felt right/approrpraite for the table/setting. On paizos part they have started to expand to actively include non inner sea regions in their books,and on the community... well to a lot of people access just became another word for preresiquite. So loosening up on what gets tagged with uncommon seems like a natural devlopment based on those factors. But thats just my theory watching the community and such, i have no such insights into the minds of the developers/writers.

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Yes. I think they came to realize that having to be Human and pay a feat tax to treat Katana as a Martial weapon was a bit awkward.


Tactical Drongo wrote:
if they stopped with it recently I am sure remastered will have a number of weapons go from uncommon to common

I hope so. Anyway Orcs will be no more uncommon in remaster but I still don't know about if Leshys will too.


YuriP wrote:
Tactical Drongo wrote:
if they stopped with it recently I am sure remastered will have a number of weapons go from uncommon to common
I hope so. Anyway Orcs will be no more uncommon in remaster but I still don't know about if Leshys will too.

Leshys will be a core Race, so it is safe to assume that they will be common


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Now, don't quote me on this because I'm not an expert in feudal japan, but I was under the impression that katanas were more like a symbol of authority and dueling swords, while spears/polearms, nodaichi (from my understanding mainly used against cavalry), and bows were the more mainstream actual weapons of war.

So the tag missing may simply because of availability/status of the nodaichi compared to the katanas as well.


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From my knowledge spears were the most common weapon of Japan (and generally speaking the world, because they were cheap to make a required little training for the average peasant to wield, and professional armies were rare), even among Samurai. With bows being a runner up of sorts, especially if still mounted on horseback.

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shroudb wrote:

Now, don't quote me on this because I'm not an expert in feudal japan, but I was under the impression that katanas were more like a symbol of authority and dueling swords, while spears/polearms, nodaichi (from my understanding mainly used against cavalry), and bows were the more mainstream actual weapons of war.

So the tag missing may simply because of availability/status of the nodaichi compared to the katanas as well.

The daisho (katana and wakizashi worn together) was only for Samurais.

Katana by themselves were okay even for non-samurais AFAIK.

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