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I can concur that I've been on this thread for not as long as others, but for almost ten years now(accurately speaking more of 6-7 as active poster? I think it was either in 2014 or 2015 I started posting here?) and whenever people say "threads have changed over years" they are speaking from this kind of golden memory nostalgia of something that was never a thing :'D Only thing that has changed in ten years is people active on forum, things like alignment arguments never change
(note: back ten years ago there was lot of "PF2e when?" type threads, edition warring or requesting fixes to pet peeves or new edition never changes :'D )
Yeah, I've been here also for more than 15 years now (dang, May 2008... that's a lot of time. First post complaining about useless Sorcerer melee bloodline abilities. ^^) and, aside from some non-gaming things which have, IMO, changed for the worse, on the gaming side it's the same business as usual. Well, 2E seems to make players a bit less crabby about new rules Paizo is putting out than 1E, which seems positive overall. No Terrible Remorse drama, no Divine Protection terrible mistake of a feat... at least from what I've seen so far, which is pretty little, to be fair.
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I'm out I think. I'm just going to keep my players on the books we have. Half of my table's classes won't be "updated" until Player Core 2 or whatever comes out. We're good with (all) of the books we've already bought. Plus I doubt all of the Roll20 content (I know, I know. I have a Foundry license too. I just jumped on Roll20 when covid hit to swtich my table online; in for a pennny, in for a pound) I've bought for PF2e will magically update free of charge.
I was excited about the remaster when it was announced, but all of the discourse is nauseating to be honest.
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I'm out I think. I'm just going to keep my players on the books we have. Half of my table's classes won't be "updated" until Player Core 2 or whatever comes out. We're good with (all) of the books we've already bought. Plus I doubt all of the Roll20 content (I know, I know. I have a Foundry license too. I just jumped on Roll20 when covid hit to swtich my table online; in for a pennny, in for a pound) I've bought for PF2e will magically update free of charge.
I was excited about the remaster when it was announced, but all of the discourse is nauseating to be honest.
I would hazard that the Roll20 content will be dealt with as they usually do for errata. I do not know though if they make people pay for those.
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I'm out I think. I'm just going to keep my players on the books we have. Half of my table's classes won't be "updated" until Player Core 2 or whatever comes out. We're good with (all) of the books we've already bought. Plus I doubt all of the Roll20 content (I know, I know. I have a Foundry license too. I just jumped on Roll20 when covid hit to swtich my table online; in for a pennny, in for a pound) I've bought for PF2e will magically update free of charge.
I was excited about the remaster when it was announced, but all of the discourse is nauseating to be honest.
For myself, I’m waiting until I see what’s actually in the remaster before I decide whether to go with it. I suppose it’s a bit easier for me since I’m not running anything right now and I’m going to buy the books anyway.
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I remain disturbed and impressed at the ability of a monstrous humanoid sub-types (will that all change in the Remaster, is that all in OGL?) to evoke social discord.
I further remain disconcerted by the fact the 'desired' reaction was evoked (will we lose that word in Remaster, is that in OGL?), and the victim/erosion process was begun, right on schedule.
We could be better about this, but it requires setting aside personal grievances and avoiding being destructive of the community as a whole.
It requires having empathy and setting aside privilege a bit, which is a hard sell when folks are 'kicking down' at perceived persecution from allegedly weak folks 'below them'.
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I was excited about the remaster when it was announced, but all of the discourse is nauseating to be honest.
It's going to be like this for a while because we've run out of new things to say and so we're stuck rehashing the same topics until the next announcement comes out.
Paizo announces stuff way too early and hype trains can only go so far on one load of steam.
I'm looking forward to every change coming (so far), but yeah - all we have left now is to aimlessly flame each other over how words will get spelled in the new books and similar 'extremely important' topics. ;)
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So, what is your overall impression of the announced Remaster changes?
Overall I quite like most of the changes, as we currently understand them. Though, I have concerns that some of my friends may be less than enthusiastic.
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In reference to why we announce things early: We have to let book distributors for retail know about new products six months in advance (it used to be 9 months) so they can calculate how many copies they want and order enough. Sometimes we want to talk about things at a specific event like a convention, but if the secret has to be out anyway, might as well tout it everywhere.
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Thank you for the note (and for removing the posts; some of them weren't my finest moment *sigh*).