The Ronyon |
Does a wand cane qualify as a weapon?
Source Treasure Vault pg. 105 1.1
Price 100 gp
Usage held in 1 hand; Bulk L
Though it appears to be a basic cane, the inner workings of the wand cane are an intricate network of lenses and magical circuits, with a slot at the top to insert a wand. The wand cane then spends 1 minute attuning to the wand, after which the wand can be used through the cane.
I would argue that it is at the very least an improvised weapon, but then so is a wand.
If improvised weapons qualified for quickdraw, there would be no need to search for an alternate method, and I wouldn't be asking about the Wand Cane.My searches on this site came up with only gloves of storing as a way to quick draw wands.
Keeping that exploit in mind, and the lack of weapon attributes listed, I'm pretty sure
the consensuses will be no, the Wand Cane is not a weapon, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
Errenor |
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Does a wand cane qualify as a weapon?
As there's no exception, it counts as a normal cane, which is a weapon:
"A basic cane or basic crutch has the same statistics as a club when wielded in combat. Other canes are additionally designed for heavy impact and combat use, and have their own statistics. All four of these items can be used as weapons, and you can apply weapon runes to them as normal." Grand Bazaar pg. 67Or here: https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1665
breithauptclan |
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More than just no exception. The Wand Cane says that it is a Basic Cane. Which as was just pointed out, has the stats of a Club - which is a weapon.
Errenor |
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The Wand Cane says that it is a Basic Cane.
Well, sorry for nitpicking, but it doesn't say that, it actually says it 'appears to be' :D Which isn't the same at all. So if it weren't in the 'canes' section, I would expect someone to say that it's just a fancy wand with its only function to conceal that it's a magical wand... There's really no mention it's a weapon either which caused this thread.
Themetricsystem |
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Gotta agree with Errenor here, this is a case where conflating the first sentence as mechanics is the mistake when that is, in fact, simply a flavor description. What it looks like is meaningless since the item doesn't indicate that it is or can be used as a Basic Cane or Basic Crutch in any of the ways that those items can be used. If it WERE able to be used in that manner they would have indicated as much by stating it functions as a Basic Cane or Basic Crutch which it does not.
At the end of the day, this is simply a disguise for a wand and doesn't even work as a mobility aid, though I would say, this is only grounded in the RAW and I don't think there is any mechanical reason to really prohibit Draw + Strike, but again as others noted, if you're using it as a Cane of any sort then you're already holding it in one hand most of the time you're on the move anyhow.
Again, something something natural language, something something, mixed flavor and mechanical descriptions without formatting differences, grumble mumble.
Errenor |
Gotta agree with Errenor here...
I also mentioned that it's an item in the 'Canes' section (of the 'Assistive items' part of the book) and I do consider it having a functionality of the basic cane (because it's the only default we have). Yes, they weren't very thorough, but the intent is more than clear here.