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Hmm, reminds me of a druid I was making for a pbp, who was older than all the other characters(or, given the elf in the party, one age catergory higher). Like in Dragons of Autumn Twilight, the story was the group had split up and was regrouping after a few years. He was like Flint, the older character trying to keep the "kids" alive.

I think we have a babysitter now...

Most used sentence: "I'm getting to old for this..."


Nice. :)

And I'm not trying to force things to be about the young kids or anything, so if that doesn't work it's okay. It just seems like a good way to keep the power level low, and have the characters realistically slowly discovering/learning to use their powers over time. It's basically the standard children's lit model, so if you don't like Percy Jackson, find another children's book series and oh, look, it's pretty much the same thing. :)
Also popular in children's tv series. :)


Laref Waverunner wrote:

Hmm, reminds me of a druid I was making for a pbp, who was older than all the other characters(or, given the elf in the party, one age catergory higher). Like in Dragons of Autumn Twilight, the story was the group had split up and was regrouping after a few years. He was like Flint, the older character trying to keep the "kids" alive.

I think we have a babysitter now...

Most used sentence: "I'm getting to old for this..."

Better you than me. Three most dreaded words in the English language: watch your brothers. *shudder* ;)


Hmmm.....[rubs temples]

Shadow Lodge

I bring you back to the idea of my sercret concept alchemist(the class, not Full Metal, unless I make him a Warforged instead...), who is more likely to create explosions than anyone else... definitely still learning his trade...

Just so you know, he won't be a gnome.


lynora wrote:

Nice. :)

And I'm not trying to force things to be about the young kids or anything, so if that doesn't work it's okay. It just seems like a good way to keep the power level low, and have the characters realistically slowly discovering/learning to use their powers over time. It's basically the standard children's lit model, so if you don't like Percy Jackson, find another children's book series and oh, look, it's pretty much the same thing. :)

Hogwarts came before Camp Halfblood, though, so it seems fair to use the Harry Potter anologies instead.

Shadow Lodge

But Halfbloods were around before Hogwarts. Hercules/Heracles was half-mortal and half-god.


Dragonborn3 wrote:
But Halfbloods were around before Hogwarts. Hercules/Heracles was half-mortal and half-god.

But wizards were around before halfbloods, because they've been around as long as normal humans have. Halfbloods only came around when Zeus decided the mortals weren't so bad, after all.

Shadow Lodge

And how many of the before-the-halfbloods wizards were kids?


Okay, so maybe we have the Eyrie be a good safe place to send powerful kids where they can learn and have appropriate supervision? Slight modification in the wards though. If a child attempts to do violence to another instead of being teleported to a random location outside the Eyrie, they are instead teleported to a very secure room marked detention.

(I am totally ignoring this wizards vs halfbloods argument. I only brought up half-bloods because several of the kids in question actually ARE half-bloods or demigods in training.) :)


[Blink, blink]


Dragonborn, are you really bringing the Chicken and the Egg into this debate? Because it was perfectly reasonable up till now.

lynora wrote:
Okay, so maybe we have the Eyrie be a good safe place to send powerful kids where they can learn and have appropriate supervision? Slight modification in the wards though. If a child attempts to do violence to another instead of being teleported to a random location outside the Eyrie, they are instead teleported to a very secure room marked detention.

Sounds good. How is 'child' defined, though? Does it take different races into account?

EDIT: I just realised how relevant Ps238 is to this discussion. I can't believe it didn't occur to me yet, because I've been reading through the archive the whole time.


Well, I'd say pre-puberty. So far we've got ages ranging from 9-11. So if we're talking about other races, whatever the age equivalent to that would be. That way we can have the kids age as the story goes on. Although for an elf that might be tricky, so there's a lot more leeway on age there. :)


lynora wrote:
Well, I'd say pre-puberty. So far we've got ages ranging from 9-11. So if we're talking about other races, whatever the age equivalent to that would be. That way we can have the kids age as the story goes on. Although for an elf that might be tricky, so there's a lot more leeway on age there. :)

Hmm? I meant the spell.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
lynora wrote:
Well, I'd say pre-puberty. So far we've got ages ranging from 9-11. So if we're talking about other races, whatever the age equivalent to that would be. That way we can have the kids age as the story goes on. Although for an elf that might be tricky, so there's a lot more leeway on age there. :)
Hmm? I meant the spell.

My bad. I thought you were referring to what kind of characters.

What spell?

So confused....

Oh, you mean for the teleport....Sorry. My short attention span often leads to conversational confusion. :)

I'd say it's defined on an individual basis for the most part. Most of the children in the Eyrie either live there or have been sent there. Visitors would be subject to a brief scan on their first entry to establish what they qualify as.
Also, the original wards prevent someone from entering if they intend to do violence while there, so any violent action would have to be of an entirely spontaneous nature. Resident children or boarders would instead be transported to the detention room until they calmed down so as not to leave a child stranded elsewhere with no way to come home. Visitors would simply be unable to enter.

I think that covers all the contingencies....

Shadow Lodge

Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn, are you really bringing the Chicken and the Egg into this debate? Because it was perfectly reasonable up till now.

I'm just saying that I believe half-blood were around before wizards. No big deal, it's just what I think.

lynora wrote:

Okay, so maybe we have the Eyrie be a good safe place to send powerful kids where they can learn and have appropriate supervision? Slight modification in the wards though. If a child attempts to do violence to another instead of being teleported to a random location outside the Eyrie, they are instead teleported to a very secure room marked detention.

(I am totally ignoring this wizards vs halfbloods argument. I only brought up half-bloods because several of the kids in question actually ARE half-bloods or demigods in training.) :)

Lynora and Devlyn:
Ruji, we're not in Agartha anymore!

Dragonborn3 wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn, are you really bringing the Chicken and the Egg into this debate? Because it was perfectly reasonable up till now.
I'm just saying that I believe half-blood were around before wizards. No big deal, it's just what I think.

Hey, I'm just saying I disagree. I assumed it was a humorous debate.

Shadow Lodge

It is. I mean come on, the legend of Minos' famous son was around before the legend of Camelot!


Dragonborn3 wrote:
It is. I mean come on, the legend of Minos' famous son was around before the legend of Camelot!

Ohhhh...I'm embarrassed.

This whole time, I've been arguing in the canon of the two books. You've been arguing about the literature itself.
On that note, though, the idea of a magic user has easily been around before the Greek pantheon. What about medicine men? Shamans?

Shadow Lodge

Neither of which are the Wizards you were fighting for ealier...


Dragonborn3 wrote:
Neither of which are the Wizards you were fighting for ealier...

And Hercules was? He was pretty different from the guys at Camp Half-Blood. A lot stronger, for one thing. And no lightning powers.

Shadow Lodge

Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Neither of which are the Wizards you were fighting for ealier...
And Hercules was? he was pretty different from the guys at Camp Half-Blood.

I'm arguing half-bloods in general, I haven't seen/read any Percy Jackson(though I really want to).

Perhaps half-blood is misleading at the moment...


Dragonborn3 wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Neither of which are the Wizards you were fighting for ealier...
And Hercules was? He was pretty different from the guys at Camp Half-Blood.
I'm arguing half-bloods in general, I haven't seen/read any Percy Jackson(though I really want to).

I wouldn't recommend it. Rick Riordan's writing style is pretty juvenile, and it's full of cliches.

Anyways, okay, but I'm arguing wizards in general. In this case, I'm using the definition of wizard which simply refers to 'magic user'. That brings me far past half gods.

Shadow Lodge

So..?


Nodin(right) and Notin(left)


Sky Cloudgather wrote:
Nodin(right) and Notin(left)

Nice. :)


Dragonborn3 wrote:
So..?

I don't click Youtube links unless I know where they lead, sorry. Too many rickrollers on the boards. :P


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
So..?
I don't click Youtube links unless I know where they lead, sorry. Too many rickrollers on the boards. :P

understandable. :)

It's a link to a song titled Time Warp.


lynora wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
So..?
I don't click Youtube links unless I know where they lead, sorry. Too many rickrollers on the boards. :P

understandable. :)

It's a link to a song titled Time Warp.

Ah, I see. Yeah, the sooner we complete this tale, the sooner we can begin the next one.

So as to the time warp itself, how are we going to handle it? Is somebody just going to say "ten years later..."? This is something like the end of book two (if we count the stuff up to Innocent Blood's defeat as the first book), so it should be something good. Maybe a long speech from one of the more aloof characters, or a narrator, or something to that effect.


Sorry folks, I have been very tied up as of late, and honestly, I don't know, it kinda seems like the magic of this game has faded. Maybe at some point we can respark it, but it seems to be kinda a non-start. Or am I off base?


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Sorry folks, I have been very tied up as of late, and honestly, I don't know, it kinda seems like the magic of this game has faded. Maybe at some point we can respark it, but it seems to be kinda a non-start. Or am I off base?

I don't know. I know I kinda disappeared for a bit this last week. I sprained my hand, and I really prioritized what I replied to since it hurts to type. But even aside from that, I know that summer is maybe not the best time for some of our players. That might make for a bit of a slow start. *shrug* If we want to put this on hold for a bit, maybe come back to it later, that's cool. I could pretty much go either way on that.


Hey everybody what's up?


I'd like to keep this up, but if it isn't working for you guys, we probably should delay it further. We should at least do the time-skip before quitting, though
And I don't think the magic has faded, Patrick. I think we're just not really sure where to go from here.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:

I'd like to keep this up, but if it isn't working for you guys, we probably should delay it further. We should at least do the time-skip before quitting, though

And I don't think the magic has faded, Patrick. I think we're just not really sure where to go from here.

You want Djuhah to do a narration laying out the basic events of the past ten years? Or someone more removed from the story? We are going with the kids storyline? Or would teens/adults be preferable? Then again, the kids from the last storyline will be in their early twenties if we fast forward ten years, although waaaaaaaay more powerful already than what we were hoping for I think, which is why I suggested focusing on the younger kids. Anyways, I'd like a little more clarification of what we really want to do before doing the time skip. I don't think we're in any hurry though, so no harm taking our time and making sure everyone is on the same page before starting anything up. We want it to be fun for everyone. :)


lynora wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

I'd like to keep this up, but if it isn't working for you guys, we probably should delay it further. We should at least do the time-skip before quitting, though

And I don't think the magic has faded, Patrick. I think we're just not really sure where to go from here.
You want Djuhah to do a narration laying out the basic events of the past ten years? Or someone more removed from the story? We are going with the kids storyline? Or would teens/adults be preferable? Then again, the kids from the last storyline will be in their early twenties if we fast forward ten years, although waaaaaaaay more powerful already than what we were hoping for I think, which is why I suggested focusing on the younger kids. Anyways, I'd like a little more clarification of what we really want to do before doing the time skip. I don't think we're in any hurry though, so no harm taking our time and making sure everyone is on the same page before starting anything up. We want it to be fun for everyone. :)

That's probably a good idea.

So, let's go over what we've worked out thus far:
  • This plot ends. Djuhah or somebody else does a little speech, explaining everything of importance and suchwhat.
  • Skip forward something like ten years. Most of our old characters are dead or retired, and the 'kids' are probably the main characters. However, they're a bit more powerful than we intended. Maybe this is a cheap trick, but what if the kids lose some of their powers somehow?
  • So what's the plot? Sytt is a moderately powerful villain, which is what I planned. Candle Lighter and the Mask won't do anything until the time is right, because they were villains created for the first plot. Or we could create a whole new enemy.

  • Shadow Lodge

    Well, the last few times I've posted as Corona, she's been collecting items/materials for something...

    Given ten mostly quiet years, she could have it almost ready.


    The Corona storyline sounds good.

    The younger kids aren't overpowered, but I was kind of questioning if we wanted a bunch of ten year olds as the main characters. Arielle and LK and them would be twenty now, which might work better, but they are waaaaay over powered. Arielle would be willing to do something like locking some of her powers away. She was really struggling with guilt based on what happened when her powers got away from her, so it's not much of a stretch to say she'd do that. It really just depends on what kind of story y'all want to tell.


    The Corona storyline sounds best. Sytt can serve well as the Nale of this story: a gnat in everyone's ear who occasionally surfaces to create mayhem before attempting to sink back into the shadows.


    lynora wrote:

    The Corona storyline sounds good.

    The younger kids aren't overpowered, but I was kind of questioning if we wanted a bunch of ten year olds as the main characters. Arielle and LK and them would be twenty now, which might work better, but they are waaaaay over powered. Arielle would be willing to do something like locking some of her powers away. She was really struggling with guilt based on what happened when her powers got away from her, so it's not much of a stretch to say she'd do that. It really just depends on what kind of story y'all want to tell.

    If I can ever free up enough time to post in more than one of these again, the 'around 20' age category would get me back in.

    Just my humble 2 cp, as always... (^-^)


    Well, that's one vote for having the older kids be the main story. :)


    I'd like to second that.


    Okay, well, it's a small enough group that that's enough votes. :)
    We're going with the older kids as the main storyline, the younger ones as an occasional side story. Sound good to everyone?

    Any of us with previous characters in the twenty year old category have to come up with some really good reason why they can't access all of their incredible powers.

    Shadow Lodge

    LK could be spreading his magic out in the Grove, making bits and pieces of it safe havens from hunters(whether they are hunting animals or others), as long as they have no intention of hurting the Grove. That will take care of his god magic, since the Grove it huge, but let him keep the mortal magic he can't access for spells to power his Fighting Styles.

    I wonder if caution comes with age? ;)


    Question!

    Who here has the ability to tell when a dragon has died?

    I ask because they are powerfully magical creatures and are similar to forces off nature. Given this fact, I was thinking some might be able to tell when you died(from old age, battle, poison, etc).


    Corona wrote:

    Question!

    Who here has the ability to tell when a dragon has died?

    I ask because they are powerfully magical creatures and are similar to forces off nature. Given this fact, I was thinking some might be able to tell when you died(from old age, battle, poison, etc).

    Lilsa would, but I don't think she's going to be a prevalent character. I suppose it's not infeasible that Frost might have a spell active to detect this sort of thing, but only if it's necessary that someone sense it, and he's the only option. He's not really the diviner type.


    It's not necessary for someone to sense it. The only reason I asked was to add some mystery to the question "What is going to happen?" by adding "with all these dragons dying?"


    Yes, I should be staying out of this, but I will take the time to post and observe that I am politely cynical that any storyline which involves dragons being casually exterminated like helpless kittens in a sack being dunked in a river will stay low-powered beyond the first couple of pages.
    I wish you well, but it seems to me that you're barrelling towards another power smash already. :(
    Having made which observation, like Patrick Curtin I have other things I really should be doing.
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    Charles Evans 25 wrote:
    Yes, I should be staying out of this, but I will take the time to post and observe that I am politely cynical that any storyline which involves dragons being casually exterminated like helpless kittens in a sack being dunked in a river will stay low-powered beyond the first couple of pages.

    Ah, but what if they are pseudodragons?

    :P
    Actually, that'd be kind of funny to have a wimpy villain killing off pseudodragons to show off their 'power'. *Scribbles in GM's notebook*


    Power smash? Nah, just the usual evil person stereotype.

    I may be a lich of moderate power, but I won't be going after great wyrms!

    20 wyrmlins(or 10 very young dragons) wil suffice for my plans. I won't even be using the entire body of each one...


    Amiri and Lark?

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