Looking for advice on where to go with my oracle.


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Hello everyone, I'm looking for a little bit of advice on how to advance an oracle I'm building for a game. Character is level 2, likely going Lunar, with their first level being in a martial class(story/background/group reasons for this). Initially I thought about just going with a level of fighter for the weapons and extra feat. I'd been planning on going a little bit crazy with natural attacks, making a (small)tiefling and getting bite and tail attack then gore from Lunar. After thinking about it a bit, however, I now wonder if going Cavalier and getting a mount might be better.

I've got a few ideas on where to go with it, but not sure if it'd actually be any good to do so.

First idea:
Level 1. Get a giant weasel(prefer using this instead of other mounts due to character/background reasons) mount from cavalier.
Level 2. get the companion revelation on oracle(I talked with my GM on this, he said I could just keep advancing the weasel).
Level 3. extra revelation for CHA to AC.
Level 4. the extra natural attack from Lunar. Keep the weasel small sized.
Level 5. multiattack and go crazy.

Second idea:
Basically the same as above, but grow the mount to medium sized and focus more on mounted combat feats than trying to go with natural attacks.

Third idea:
Ditch the animal companion/mount and just stick with fighter and do whatever.

As for why I wouldn't just grab the primal companion ability? Mostly it's not being as interested in the options from it(though I know wolf and tiger can be powerful). And while the GM was willing to let the weasel advance if I already had it, he wasn't really into changing the options from the feature.

Any advice or ideas you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated.


I would say that stacking natural attacks on a class wich can get Form of the Beast (from lv7 and once per day, but the duration is 1 hour/level) could be seen as a waste but if it fits you character design than it's good enough to try.

For a mounted build you could want to get the Warsighted archetype to fill the gaps in your build.

For a Fighter-like Orace without animal companions you could get both a level of Scaled Fist Monk (Unchained) and the Warsighted archetype, to play as a Caster/Brawler.

If you were a Half-Elf with Battle mystery you could do very nice things with Paragon Surge into Extra Revelation to get Maneuver Mastery while having Weapon Mastery on a Sansetsukon but then it wouldn't have anything to do with your previous character concept.


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FraVit wrote:

I would say that stacking natural attacks on a class wich can get Form of the Beast (from lv7 and once per day, but the duration is 1 hour/level) could be seen as a waste but if it fits you character design than it's good enough to try.

For a mounted build you could want to get the Warsighted archetype to fill the gaps in your build.

For a Fighter-like Orace without animal companions you could get both a level of Scaled Fist Monk (Unchained) and the Warsighted archetype, to play as a Caster/Brawler.

If you were a Half-Elf with Battle mystery you could do very nice things with Paragon Surge into Extra Revelation to get Maneuver Mastery while having Weapon Mastery on a Sansetsukon but then it wouldn't have anything to do with your previous character concept.

Honestly the natural attacks thing was mostly because Lunar gives you a few with Gift of Claw and Horn, and because it seemed like it'd be somewhat amusing to try. So it's something I'd be willing to drop to make other aspects of the build more solid.

As for Warsighted, I'd never really considered it since it doesn't give you the same 'oracle level counts as fighter levels' that you get from it with brawler, but looking it over again it doesn't seem as bad as I initially thought, especially going full on into mounted combat.

As for the monk dip, I kinda feel like Enlightened Paladin, or Warrior Poet seem better? Though admittedly Scaled Fist does give bonus feats that would be helpful to getting things up and running earlier.


IMO Enlightened Paladin and Warrior Poet 1 level dip aren't as frontloaded as Scaled Fist as their granted Cha to AC bonusses would scale with their levels.

But that were just as an alternative to Lunar mystery.

For a mounted build few dips are as good as Cavalier, you can get free feats, a trained mount and not having to take Ride penalty checks due to armor. That would be my pick.


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My suggestion is your Oracle should go somewhere in Golarion.

I hope this helps.


Small-sized natural attack build?

I'd go with Ratfolk, taking the Sharpclaw and Sharptooth feats to gain two claws and a bite attack, respectively... and using a Tailblade. That's three primary attacks and one secondary attack without anything from any class... a Tailblade is 11gp, I think the extra attack is worth the coin. Use that mammoth helm for a gore attack, and the other usual tricks. Sharpclaw is even a combat feat, so one level of Fighter can kick this off strong from the start, and you could have Multiattack by level 3. I'd personally rather be something like a Beastmorph-Vivisectionist Alchemist and find clever ways to abuse those wonderful Scurrying Swarmer shenanigans.

A small Tiefling, though? And I get that they can pick up a bite/claws with an alternative racial feature, or whatever that variant table is called... which is also where you can become Small [I think]... but how are you getting a tail attack? You can get a prehensile tail, and there the Grasping Tail feat you can take... Mischoevous Tail allows Disarm/Steal maneuvers with your tail... but unless you're using Almost Human or whatever it's called to take Racial Heritage (Kobold? or Ratfolk?), how are you getting a tail attack? Am I missing something obvious?

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