I have a summoner player with an Eidolon that has failed a few saving throws for a disease and is about to die.
Do effects from diseases or death or being unconscious effect the summoner if it is afflicting the Eidolon?
If it doesn't effect the summoner what happens to the eidolon when it dies from a disease? Does it just disappear like regular damage then reappear when summoned?
That is a very good, and very unanswered question.
The easy one is if the Eidolon dies from damage - because when it hits 0 HP and dying, so does the Summoner.
If the Eidolon becomes unconscious for other reasons - like the Sleep spell - that would not affect the Summoner.
Death effects are less clear. Personally, I would rule that a Death effect that kills the Eidolon will also put the Summoner at 0 HP and Dying.
The most difficult one is the conditions such as persistent damage, poison, or other afflictions. The answer to that seems to be on whether you and the player consider the body of the Eidolon to be a temporary one that is conjured as part of the Manifest Eidolon just like summoning spells do, or if the Eidolon exists independently and is only transported to the Summoners location when Manifested. The rules seem to say that it is both - even though those ideas are somewhat contradictory.
The implications are what you probably already know. If the conditions persist and continue to affect the Eidolon while it is unsummoned, then it will be very difficult to keep the Summoner alive since the Eidolon can't be assisted to remove the condition while it is not there. On the other hand, having a get-out-of-conditions-free card by unmanifesting the Eidolon can seem a bit cheesy.
So my suggestion is to decide with the player which way the Eidolon should work. Temporary body or permanent one?
Yeah, pretty keen for an answer to this question as Purple Pox has just hit stage 3 on our eidolon.
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I'd really love an official answer on this, yes. The Eidolon died of Purple Pox and should have 'exploded' by now.
Does every manifestation count as 'new body who dis'?
Was there ever any ruling on this?
My eidolon died of a disease. It's a metal elemental eidolon that died of spore blight from a terotricus. Double crit fails. Pretty sad.
How does this work? Or does it die, you drop, then get healed up and manifest it again?
Or is it pretty much up to the DM?
Why would dying of disease work so much differently than dying from wounds?
Disease is unusual in that it affects the eidolon even if the summoner made her save to resist the disease. It doesn't do hit point damage, it just kills it outright with the disease progressing on the eidolon. It happens over days, not rounds. Not even sure how it works if you don't have the eidolon manifested.
I'm going to make it easy and run it as the consensus seems to be. Eidolon dies, summoner drops, PCs are round to heal her and get her back up. So all done, back to work.
Many diseases (like this one) also do PERMANENT HP DAMAGE until the disease is cured. Also there is no 'disease has run its course' in afflictions. Only 'stage five = death'. This is a weird edge case but this is why we're asking for official ruling. I'm a ProGM and I run my stuff as close to RAW as possible, with very few bans and changes, and very few "RAI" adjustments. I very rarely have to make edgecase decisions and this one has been pretty bad.