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SS, here’s a thread for the moderators proving intolerance has run rampant on this forum: here.
Your conduct here has been in bad faith, and I’m not replying to you again, but at least now I can say I’ve spoonfed you the “proof” you demand. I hope the mods clean this conversation up soon.
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Casual reminder to the good-faith observers: we have been dealing with people like this for four months now and they never, ever change their tune, no matter how desperately trans people try to appeal to their sympathy. It is exhausting to be expected to give every person the benefit of the doubt, especially when this hyperdefensive Facts Over Feelings shell is invariably the result.
95% of the time, it's pure bad faith from people who like arguing with trans people for Some Reason. 5% of the time, it's not, it's just the fragile egos of people who would rather waste our time for days insisting Actually, They Were Right because being wrong is existentially frightening to them. You might think the first group is worse. You might think.
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the Trans Rights Supporter has logged on
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For those watching at home, some useful tips on how to support trans rights: Don't derail discourse about bigotry to demand minority groups explain to you where the bigotry was. Especially don't do it if you aren't prepared to take them in good faith and believe them when they answer.
Under no circumstances do we recommend scolding them when they either don't immediately trust your "pics or it didn't happen" questions are genuine or fail to go out of their way to bring you receipts so you can graciously bestow your allyship to them.
Oh, and as a general rule, if, like, five trans people are getting more and more pissed with you, there's a decent chance you aren't doing a great job of advocating for their rights.
EDIT: Oh, and obviously, please don't demand we "prove" you're transphobic by pointing to a specific instance when the whole technique of dogwhistles and coded bigotry depends on no one post being identifiably bigoted without copious context. Maybe consider why we're getting so uncomfortable around you and reexamine your approach from a place of humility.
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trans people are so goshdarn sensitive
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For those watching at home, some useful tips on how to support trans rights: Don't derail discourse about bigotry to demand minority groups explain to you where the bigotry was. Especially don't do it if you aren't prepared to take them in good faith and believe them when they answer.
Under no circumstances do we recommend scolding them when they either don't immediately trust your "pics or it didn't happen" questions are genuine or fail to go out of their way to bring you receipts so you can graciously bestow your allyship to them.
Oh, and as a general rule, if, like, five trans people are getting more and more pissed with you, there's a decent chance you aren't doing a great job of advocating for their rights.
EDIT: Oh, and obviously, please don't demand we "prove" you're transphobic by pointing to a specific instance when the whole technique of dogwhistles and coded bigotry depends on no one post being identifiably bigoted without copious context. Maybe consider why we're getting so uncomfortable around you and reexamine your approach from a place of humility.
This charming interlude has actually given me a little /more/ faith in this community: an obvious troll showed up, was spotted, had their claims poked full of holes, and then laughed out of the conversation.
We just might make it, everyone.
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