PLANESCAPE: Mrs Willymott's excelanet Exterminator Agency (Inactive)

Game Master Johnny_Panic

Spheres isn’t so bad.

Spheres of power: Each talent lets you use a school of magic. After you unlock it you can buy a spell. No spell slots. Instead some spells cost spell points.

Example: Lvl 2 destruction sphere. A simple blast costs nothing. 1d6 damage. Can use a spell point to make it 2d6 damage. Talents can change the blast shape and what type of damage.

Spheres of might. Each talents lets you use a style of fighting. After that you can buy new moves. Make combinations as you like.

Example: Brute gives you shove. Move action touch attack, strength as damage. A second talent can upgrade it so that it gives you a free trip attempt if it hits.

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The point of spheres of power, in my mind: remove spell levels and cantrips. Mages can be specialists where they are *really* good at one thing. Or generalists where they can do a lot, but not very well.

The point of spheres of might is so that martials usually don’t just full attack. Instead they do interesting things beyond just having more attacks.

I recommend having a concept and going from there. A master of fire? A healer extraordinaire? A master of teleportation? A manipulator of time? Tim the enchanter (who can throw fire around?) Have an idea of what you want to be good at and then delve into one or two spheres and do it.

Hi All I shall be on my Holidays for the next few weeks, I will try and check on this thread from time to time, when sober.

So have at it and be good. :)

Fair enough, seems I have some time to get my character done, which is good! Hope to get them written up this week.

Checking in - GM Panic, are you still up for this?

I am but I’m on holiday for another 3 weeks travaling in Asia so pushing this back two weeks
:)

Never did figure out how to make that Paladin/Antipaladin idea work. But I hav a different one, for which I need to ask a question regarding this:

mythic: Yes but 1 path only, no mythic Gustal on each side.

Does that mean no Dual Path mythic feat, or just that we don't get it free? The idea I'm working on is for a partially magus-based arcane warrior type, and being able to go Archmage/Champion would be really helpful.

No you can have dual path as it counts as one path o no one side of gustalt

I am but I’m on holiday for another 3 weeks travaling in Asia so pushing this back two weeks

:)

Out of curiosity where? I’m wrapping up a month and a half ish in China. :)

I am but I’m on holiday for another 3 weeks travaling in Asia so pushing this back two weeks

:)

Huh, neat. I still have time to actually complete my character then.

Is this recruitment dead?

Nope just sleeping, sorry I was on a job,

and it went well over.

So still on but will take a few weeks for me to get back up to speed.

I had a LONG think about this and here is where we are

Starting point.

You are all in SIGIL planescape setting
its up to you where in the city of doors but your there.

A job comes up, A fugitive Devil from the 9 hells, carrying something called the 'Red Crystal Hood' has fled to Sigil to a plane that is known to be highly denagrese, A Death World some say. BUT someone of power in the 9 Hells has offered a very large bounty the Devil and the Item back.

other groups have gone in already looking to get the fugitive but as yet none have come back with eather.

The 6th GATE:
The deal is the gate only works with 6 individuals enter as the same time AND will only open back when there are 6 individuals activate it.

What is on the other side of the 6th gate
A wide uncharted mythic death world thats what.

So if you still up for this, please work on your PC Alt let me know and we can get started.

UPDATED: PC Construction rules.

Gestalt: Yes normal rules, BUT two sides none mythic classes YES
That is 6 Levels on each side.

Mythic: YES
You get 6 Mythic levels but only on one side of your Gestalt.
So pick one side and thats you Mythic side.

CLASS: I will let in ANY class from core to 3ed party, just I have a veto,

Spheres of power: Yes, but of you go this way you have to go the hole way, no mix matching, you have to make your PC with SoP fully.

Psionics: Yes, but same thing, its its own system that works with Pathfinder core. Go this way and you have to go fully this way only Both Sides Gestalt. No Spheres of power or other system Psionics.

Feat-taxes AI Elephant in the Room: Yes, we will be using Combat stamina.

Hero Points: No your mythic

Archetypes: Yes, you can have one on each side of the Gestalt as needed.

Guns: Emerging Guns / For them guns slinger types

Tech: Very very Rare, and I will Veto mechs and such.

Starting gold: 250,000gp No single Item may cost more than 50,000gp

Before start crafting: No, sorry.

States: All start at 10, then ROll once 6d6 which you then add to your level and race, Bonuses for Stats as a 1 to 1 bases.

HP: Max per best side of Gestalt+ mythic etc.

Races: Any race {inc 3pp} that is 14 Race Builder points or less. If the
RB cost is not listed make that race with race builder to max, RB Points of 14. Race builder here If the cost of your race IS listed, no rebuilding it in race builder. I have a Veto.

Traits: 6 = 1 per level

Feats: 12 = 1 per level / on each side of your + Gestalt feats as per Mythic on one side of your Gestalt

Leadership feat: No nope Nada no way no...

Intelligent Items: No see leadership

No of players: 6

Background: Please fill a Ten min Background for your PC, cus as a gm i love hooks players make. 10-minute-background HERE / Your PC can be form any plane, just know that high tech ones may be Vetoed.

Hell Sigil, heavens all good,

Nice to see this restart! A couple of questions:

1/ I'm not sure what you mean by
> You get 6 Mythic levels but only on one side of your Gestalt.
> So pick one side and thats you Mythic side.
since Mythic is not tied to specific classes. Could you (or someone else) give an example of what this forbids?

2/
> Feats: 12 = 1 per level / on each side of your + Gestalt feats as per Mythic on one side of your Gestalt

Do we get 1 feats per level for each side, plus the 3 Mythic feats "as usual", or 1 normal feat per level + 1 Mythic feat per level?

Would a Zen Archer Monk/ Gun Slinger (Musket Master?) work togehter

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1/ You are Nythic but not Gestalt mythic, which means you just get mythic 6 levels on one side of your Gestalt

2/That is right you get 6 feats on each side of your Gestalt + feats from the 6 levels of Mythic.

You get 6+6 Normal + 3 Mythic

15 in total.

But only 6 traits in Total for your PC.

Would a Zen Archer Monk/ Gun Slinger (Musket Master?) work togehter

No idea, all I can suggest is build it and lets see.

Critzible wrote:

Would a Zen Archer Monk/ Gun Slinger (Musket Master?) work togehter

No idea, all I can suggest is build it and lets see.

Was more hoping that my Zen Archer could be more like a Zen Gun, and it uses Gun slinger instead of Monk.

Now feeling a Brawler(Constructed Pugilist) and Maybe a Regular Gunslinger

Stats: 6d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 6, 6, 4, 4) = 29

29+12=41

I’d given up on this one because I hadn’t found a combo I liked. But this sounds so fun, gotta take another look.

So, a couple of changes.
Not using automatic bonus progression.
A lot more gold but no item crafting.
6 feats on either side. What about class granted feats? Bonus combat feats for fighters, etc.

My build was 5/2/5 levels rather than 6/6. Do I have to change to 6/6? My CS is linked.

6d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 1, 3, 1, 4) = 14
Reroll 1s?: 2d6 ⇒ (5, 4) = 9

[dice=Stats]6d6

29+12=41

No + 12 anymore sorry so you just have 29, :)

So, a couple of changes.

Not using automatic bonus progression.
A lot more gold but no item crafting.
6 feats on either side. What about class granted feats? Bonus combat feats for fighters, etc.

My build was 5/2/5 levels rather than 6/6. Do I have to change to 6/6? My CS is linked.

yes 6/6 please

6d6

[dice=Reroll 1s?]2d6

Good point, yes reroll 1s on the 6D6

stats roll: 6d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 6, 2, 5, 1) = 26

reroll: 1d6 ⇒ 6

26 - 1 + 6 = 31

6d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 1, 3, 1, 2) = 18
rerolls: 2d6 ⇒ (6, 1) = 7
reroll: 1d6 ⇒ 3
5 + 6 + 3 + 2 + 6 + 3 = 25

What is on the other side of the 6th gate

A wide uncharted mythic death world thats what.

Will the game be focused on exploration? Or more on combat?

Critzible wrote:

[dice=Stats]6d6

29+12=41

No + 12 anymore sorry so you just have 29, :)

DO I still get the +6 from Mythic and +1 from regular leveling

I put together a cute little kobold (Sorcerer//Wizard) who likes to do acid: Neela Greentongue. Still working on the background, but she's a total glass cannon blaster.

As I said before I really enjoyed your other campaign. However, looking back and I’m not feeling the character I made. I’ll think of a new one.

Stats: 6d6 ⇒ (1, 6, 4, 4, 3, 5) = 23

reroll 1: 1d6 ⇒ 6 28

Okay Paladin Chosen One and Sorcerer Crossblooded Djinni/Stormborn Archmage

[dice=stats roll]6d6

[dice=reroll]1d6

26 - 1 + 6 = 31

wow just wow

Okay Paladin Chosen One and Sorcerer Crossblooded Djinni/Stormborn Archmage

sounds fun

I am encouraging Players to check each others sheets, I do not know all the rules so you would be helping me. I will be making very hard Bad guys for you to fight, so have a way to being back from the dead.

Rember if you go

Pathfinder 1 classes
OR
Spheres of power:
OR
Psionics unleashed:

You have to go all the way, Both Sides of your Gastaut have to be linked to that system,

No one side is Psionics unleashed and the other Spheres of power class.

When you say Spheres of Power, is it just Spheres of Power, or is Spheres of Might and/or Spheres of Guile allowed?

Furthermore, as Namo asked, how heavy of a focus will we have on the Pillars of Combat/Exploration/Social be?

6d6 ⇒ (2, 2, 3, 4, 2, 5) = 18

Edit: Yeash, no one's, but an average of 3 for a mere 18. Well, I won't be playing my Butching Axe Occultist with rolls like that.

WIP from Grumbaki.
Gathlain elementalist (acid focused) / conscript

Magic is very plant/nature focused.
Fighting style is either throwing out decay (acid) at range, or hitting people with it.

Move action: Feint
Standard action: Attack with blast added to it
Swift action: Free attack with the feint works

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eriktd, want to have a joint background for this?

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GM how much AC is too much? It can get *really high* with your build rules

ability roll: 6d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2) = 17
re-roll: 1d6 ⇒ 3

oof 19 points not even a 20pt buy might definitely not gonna keep up the same way as the 25+ lol but I'll try and make something because the premise is fun

eriktd, want to have a joint background for this?

Sure, that would be awesome! I love elementalists. I built a cold elemontalist (I called him an elemintalist) for an ill-fated game once that I adored playing for as long as it lasted. Let's confer!

CS Updated. Tiefling Magus/Wizard/Archmage

Was not feeling spells so I went with Halfling Sling Master /Unchained Rogue should be s fun build.

Fair bit of character done. but not finished yet.

Half-orc librarian that works/reads at a library in Sigil.  Have not decided on the gender of character yet.

Can bring someone who has died within a round of them dying (if the magic healing from his spell/magic items brings them up to above their dead threshold).

Being an oracle with the deaf curse, the library was where he spent a lot of time reading various books to learn about many different things/people/creatures.

He uses his Charisma modifier instead of his Dexterity modifier to determine AC and Reflex saves.

He uses his Charisma modifier instead of his Wisdom modifier to determine his Will saves against mind-affecting spells.He can (and has) spent days reading books in the library (no need to eat, drink or sleep).

His skald spells he casts playing an instrument (with the spells failing about 20% of the time - that was until recently, when he could FINALLY hear the music he was making!).

But recently he gained the ability to finally hear the sounds of the world...so libraries are relatively quiet places from the still fairly new cacophony of the sounds of everything around him.

Alignment: True Neutral (everyone except fanatical 'corner alignments' tend to like dealing with The Librarian than what would be expected. As I typed the previous sentence, I thought of Lorne from Angel. See Divine Countenance hierophant path ability.

Favored Class: oracle  (Add one spell known from the oracle spell list. This spell must be at least one level below the highest spell level the oracle can cast.)

Left side of gestalt: Level 6 oracle
Right side of gestalt: Level 1 skald/Level 5 unchained rogue
Mythic Path: hierophant

Skald/unchained rogue side, skills, some spells (including one mythic spell) still to be decided, plus rest of gear, traits, more fleshed-out background.

Does anyone want to have backgrounds intertwined with The Librarian?

Funny, I'm also working on a Gathlain - been a long while since I played one. Different flavour and different classes, though.
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He fights like a cross between Spiderman (for the cinematic movement) and a Jedi (he wields a light saber, kinda).

GM_Panic, I can help with sheet reviews, but I'd wait until after selections - less work this way.
Also, there's already significant gap in optimization between several of the builds posted, but hopefully people can tone down as needed, depending on the final party.

Funny, I'm also working on a Gathlain - been a long while since I played one. Different flavour and different classes, though.

Picture
He fights like a cross between Spiderman (for the cinematic movement) and a Jedi (he wields a light saber, kinda).

GM_Panic, I can help with sheet reviews, but I'd wait until after selections - less work this way.
Also, there's already significant gap in optimization between several of the builds posted, but hopefully people can tone down as needed, depending on the final party.

I personally think some guidelines would be helpful.

“Please don’t exceed AC…whatever. Don’t have saves beyond xyz. To hit should be about abc. DPS should be about blaba per round.”

It allows creativity, but keeps everyone in line. Otherwise we are making characters with rules that allow wild divergence.

Fei Wan wrote:

eriktd, want to have a joint background for this?

Sure, that would be awesome! I love elementalists. I built a cold elemontalist (I called him an elemintalist) for an ill-fated game once that I adored playing for as long as it lasted. Let's confer!

:D

Will post some thoughts later…when I have more.

Also, there's already significant gap in optimization between several of the builds posted, but hopefully people can tone down as needed, depending on the final party.

I'm hoping Spheres of Might and Guile are allowed for that exact reason. I have a pretty solid Support build lined up that brings plenty of buffs and crowd control to the table, and while it might have means of dealing damage, it's far and away not the primary focus.

I personally think some guidelines would be helpful.

“Please don’t exceed AC…whatever. Don’t have saves beyond xyz. To hit should be about abc. DPS should be about blaba per round.”

It allows creativity, but keeps everyone in line. Otherwise we are making characters with rules that allow wild divergence.

interesting, i hear you

OK to that end we will be using

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/unchained-rules/automati c-bonus-progression/

1st —
2nd —
3rd Resistance +1
4th Armor attunement +1, weapon attunement +1
5th Deflection +1
6th Mental prowess +2

and thats it

With AC max is 30

Stats: No stat over 26 after every thing

TH max is +20

what do you think?

AC 30….

Current
* AC 10 (base) + 10 (Dex) + 9 (Armor) + 6 (Natural Armor) + 3 (Deflection) +1 (Dodge) +1 (Size) = 40

Now…Dex drops from 30 to 26. Deflection drops to +1 and natural armor enhancement lost.

* AC 10 (base) + 8 (Dex) + 9 (Armor) + 3 (Natural Armor) + 1 (Deflection) +1 (Dodge) +1 (Size) = 33

Dropping enduring armor. Left with unarmored training, which with ABP becomes +6 AC.

* AC 10 (base) + 8 (Dex) + 6 (Armor) + 3 (Natural Armor) + 1 (Deflection) +1 (Dodge) +1 (Size) = 30

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“ TH max is +20”

What does that mean?

Derp. It means to hit.

Yeah, the cap seems fair to me. Only took a few minutes to lower Fei to AC 30 and +20 to hit. The rest of the numbers (equipment especially) are up in the air. And the feats/talents will be redone.

I made similar changes to Neela. Gear took the most time, since so many of her original purchases were replaced by ABP!

Is it still 250k gold to spend?