Esoteric Antithesis... Should you use it verse every enemy.


Thaumaturge Class


So, I have been reading over some playtests and worries, and a common problem people seem to have is if you scan Enemy 1, then it dies, you have to scan Enemy 2. However... I am wondering if verse mooks it is worth it, especially at low levels.

First enemy is gonna tell me weaknesses, if they have a native weakness I can exploit I will, if they don't it gives me +2 damage. This is really nice, but against non-bosses and repeats, I think I would probably stop scanning after the first in an encounter and just use my native +2 boost.

Looking over the implements though... if you use Weapon or Amulet you seem like you need to keep it up. The other three though... I think you are probably fine not using it all the time.


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It's probably not.

Though IMO that's sort of a problem, because it's such a core part of the class' identity you don't really have a lot of flavor going on if you aren't Finding Flaws.


I need to fiddle with it a bit to see if it is a problem to me. Looking through the feats it looks like a lot of stuff doesn't really require you to be in that mode. You still get lots of Magical Item interaction.

I think for my next playtest session I am going to only use EA once per encounter and see if it still feels fun to me.


I expect it'll be about as common as hunting a mook. At my table, that tends to be not super often, but sometimes does. Most of the time, they focus the big bad, and by the time they get to the mooks, the casters have already weakened them down with AoEs to the point where its just a finishing blow thats needed, if they haven't surrendered first

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