Staff Change Update from Paizo President Jeff Alvarez


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Can you explain why you're hoping I'm not serious? Crying is a pretty normal emotional response, and I'm not embarrassed to talk about it.

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Mergy wrote:
If that had been the statement we got initially, I would have spent a lot less time crying.

In fairness, it WAS Gencon last week. And it took considerable time to make some decisions and to carefully craft that post. That was NOT the result of a 30 minute meeting between a couple of people.

I'm very impressed that they managed to get all that done as quickly as they did it. While I also would have preferred to get it even sooner I think that we should recognize that they did VERY well to get it out as quickly as they did during GenCon.

And the statement itself was far better than I was expecting.


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Speaking as someone else who has been really inspired and touched by the stories told by pathfinder's wonderful employees and felt really represented and seen, hearing that those same people aren't being treated fairly really hurts. There's no need to be mean to Mergy for having a human reaction

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They're already removed. Thank you mods <3

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Reminder to not quote trolling in your posts because those ones end up removed too.


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So I was planning to pick up secrets of magic with my next pay check (this up coming Friday) and was pretty excited about it. But the end of last week has really put a damper on that excitement and I am not sure I will buy it. The update from Jeff has put it from a definite no to a possibly but I am torn.

I am a straight cisgendered male who plays a game with cisgendered males and I feel passionatly about trans rights. The APs have really helped me with the other members of my groups take transgender people more seriously and that feels great. The first time I introduced a trans NPC they took it as a joke and stuff but because of the way Paizo builds their NPCs, it didn't take long for the group to stop thinking it was funny that they were trans and saw them as a character. Since then, they don't even blink at inclusion of LGBTQ+ NPCs. That makes me feel good and is one of the many things I love about Paizo. It hurt and confused me that the company who helped me educate on transgender also had transphobic tendencies.


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Mergy wrote:
If that had been the statement we got initially, I would have spent a lot less time crying.

I only see the cry statement. Where is the new one?

@Arkon63

It's a bit hypocritical to paint all of us LGBTQ folks with a brush and turn around and then say that all of Paizo deserves the benefit of the doubt and not to judge it based on the actions of a few, isn't it? Even if you had a valid point or frustration in there, you've voiced it in a way that's almost certainly going to be moderated away, and then what?

I think it's fair to want to know if Paizo really does have directly discriminatory policies for its employees based on their gender expression or orientation or anything else. If Crystal had been a black woman and told she couldn't go because she wasn't allowed to room with a white woman who had no problem rooming with her, this would be a real cut and dry situation.

And I think, if the above situation had occurred in the 1960s, people would be receptive to the idea that even though the company had been trying to do the right thing, this situation caught them off guard and they made a call which turned out to be a bad one. And they might be receptive to the idea that the particular situation couldn't be discussed due to legal reasons.

I'd *still* want to know that they had a specific policy that would address future situations of that nature.

Isolated offenses aren't why things become large problems. It's the continued nature of them, and it starts to look like 'it was just an accident/one-time/bad call/very specific' is just an excuse to keep the bad behavior going.

To use an example from back in the day, when I was a manager at Deb's, we got an anonymous complaint that I was looking into changing rooms while up on a ladder. I had no idea anyone was even in the rooms, someone must have seen me up there while I was changing a lightbulb and figured if they could see me, I could see them. (And I probably could have, if I'd been looking.) Since I wasn't known for that type of behavior, I didn't get written up or anything when I denied it. But we STILL came up with a policy that I (and anyone else) would only fix lightbulbs on that ladder before open or after closing.

Good policies aren't just to make a specific group of people happy. They're intended to make sure that things flow smoothly.

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