Floating disk an ceiling


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Hello, I have a question about floating disk and ceiling.

What happens when a character with a floating disk is climbing on a ceiling ?

This disk follows 5 feet behind you.

If the objects are tied on the disk, is it possible for the character to untie the objects to fall to the ground on a target on the ground ?

Thanks for your future answer.


No. If we check the spell itself, we can see that it has these two details:

"This disk is 2 feet in diameter and follows 5 feet behind you, floating just above the ground."

"The spell ends if a creature tries to ride atop the disk, if the disk is overloaded, if anyone tries to lift or force the disk higher above the ground, or if you move more than 30 feet away from the disk."

This pretty clearly states it stays just above the ground, and if you were on the ceiling it would simply stay directly below you. You could maybe use it to carry a bunch of pillows in case you fell, and then when you landed on them the spell would end, but not as a way to drop items from above.


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What you want is a tree feather token.


squirrelkiller wrote:

No. If we check the spell itself, we can see that it has these two details:

"This disk is 2 feet in diameter and follows 5 feet behind you, floating just above the ground."

"The spell ends if a creature tries to ride atop the disk, if the disk is overloaded, if anyone tries to lift or force the disk higher above the ground, or if you move more than 30 feet away from the disk."

This pretty clearly states it stays just above the ground, and if you were on the ceiling it would simply stay directly below you. You could maybe use it to carry a bunch of pillows in case you fell, and then when you landed on them the spell would end, but not as a way to drop items from above.

Does this mean you couldn't use the spell on the third floor of a building?


Decimus Drake wrote:
squirrelkiller wrote:

No. If we check the spell itself, we can see that it has these two details:

"This disk is 2 feet in diameter and follows 5 feet behind you, floating just above the ground."

"The spell ends if a creature tries to ride atop the disk, if the disk is overloaded, if anyone tries to lift or force the disk higher above the ground, or if you move more than 30 feet away from the disk."

This pretty clearly states it stays just above the ground, and if you were on the ceiling it would simply stay directly below you. You could maybe use it to carry a bunch of pillows in case you fell, and then when you landed on them the spell would end, but not as a way to drop items from above.

Does this mean you couldn't use the spell on the third floor of a building?

I don't think that is the intent. "The ground" most likely includes "the floor". If you start splitting hairs based on whether there is a pocket of empty space beneath the surface you are walking on or whether the surface you are walking on is man made or not you are definitely overthinking it.

Also, interpreting it that way would mean that when you cast it in a tunnel, it would appear 100 feet above you on the surface, which definitely isn't the intent.

Grand Lodge

Decimus Drake wrote:


Does this mean you couldn't use the spell on the third floor of a building?

Depends on circumstances

No:
You can't get the disk up to the third floor if you cast it on the ground floor.

Yes:
If you did the casting while on the third floor. You won't be able to get it up to the fourth floor though.

What this means for the OP: The disk is useless to get weights up to a height to be used as weapons to drop down. Everything needs to get up to that height in a different way.

The disk is horizontal movement only

For vertical movement use Levitate.


To be fair, except from the rare circumstance that you find loot with way to much bulk for the whole party the disc does not seem to be very useful in the first place

I kind of would like people to prove me wrong in that opinion but up to now no one managed that :P


An example, if a character is walking on the ground, then the wall, and finally on the ceiling.

Quote:
This disk is 2 feet in diameter and follows 5 feet behind you, floating just above the ground.

There is nobody that tries to lift or force the disk higher above the ground, no ?

An example :
Here (0 mn 15 s)

Horizon Hunters

Seisho wrote:

To be fair, except from the rare circumstance that you find loot with way to much bulk for the whole party the disc does not seem to be very useful in the first place

I kind of would like people to prove me wrong in that opinion but up to now no one managed that :P

Load it up with explosives and place the disk over an ignition source. Walk more than 30 feet away, and boom.


floating disc wrote:
and follows 5 feet behind you

So either drop the disc or you go boom too

Grand Lodge

Waldham wrote:

An example, if a character is walking on the ground, then the wall, and finally on the ceiling.

Quote:
This disk is 2 feet in diameter and follows 5 feet behind you, floating just above the ground.

There is nobody that tries to lift or force the disk higher above the ground, no ?

An example :
Here (0 mn 15 s)

The ground isn’t the wall. The disk stops as soon as you start walking up a wall. Actually in older versions you couldn’t even get a disk up done stairs. Would have to check wording etc for 2e. It would stay on the level you started.


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Cordell Kintner wrote:
Seisho wrote:

To be fair, except from the rare circumstance that you find loot with way to much bulk for the whole party the disc does not seem to be very useful in the first place

I kind of would like people to prove me wrong in that opinion but up to now no one managed that :P

Load it up with explosives and place the disk over an ignition source. Walk more than 30 feet away, and boom.

Oil is 1cp. A 1st-level character can afford 1,500 pints. And they don't even overload the disk since they don't have bulk.

Horizon Hunters

Seisho wrote:
floating disc wrote:
and follows 5 feet behind you

So either drop the disc or you go boom too

There's ways to move more than 30ft away without it following. Like by putting a small barricade it can't climb in front of it.


Disk has definitely suffered in the incarnation. Though I do have a question, are corpses objects? How much bulk? If they aren't too much you could use floating disk to recover bodies to do a raise dead somewhere safer or hire a priest to do it.

Horizon Hunters

squirrelkiller wrote:
Disk has definitely suffered in the incarnation. Though I do have a question, are corpses objects? How much bulk? If they aren't too much you could use floating disk to recover bodies to do a raise dead somewhere safer or hire a priest to do it.

Bulk of Creatures

And yes, corpses are objects.

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