Divine Paragon + Stargazer


Rules Questions


If you have noticed that I have been very active recently, and been asking a lot of questions it is because I have been busy trying to finish off my AP Character Compendium

Today brings you questions about the Divine Paragon Archetype & the Stargazer Prestige Class

My question stems around the Divine Paragons Devoted Domain and Stargazers Mystery Magic

Devoted Domain wrote:

A divine paragon is intensely devoted to a single deity, and her alignment must be identical to her deity’s alignment. She gains Deific Obedience as a bonus feat, even if she doesn’t meet the feat’s prerequisites. She gains access to her boons at an accelerated rate (see below) rather than the standard HD-based rate granted by Deific Obedience (and as such cannot benefit from the accelerated rate granted by the Deific Obedience feat).

When the divine paragon selects her domains, she must designate one of the two domains she gains as her devoted domain. She gains all of this domain’s granted powers and domain spells normally. For her other domain, she gains only its domain spells—she does not gain any of the granted powers of that domain. Instead, she must choose from the evangelist, exalted, or sentinel boons granted by her deity. At 5th level, she gains access to the first boon granted by her deity.

At 11th level, she gains access to the second boon. At 14th level, she gains access to the third boon.

In order to retain access to her domain spells, the domain powers of her devoted domain, and the boons granted by Deific Obedience, the divine paragon must perform her obedience daily. If she fails to do so, she loses access to these abilities until she next performs her obedience (but she can still cast spells, channel energy, and perform other abilities granted by her cleric levels).

This ability alters domains.

Mystery Magic wrote:

At 1st and 9th levels, the stargazer gains a hex from the witch’s list of hexes.

His stargazer levels count as (and stack with) witch levels when determining the effects of hexes. In addition, the stargazer adds all hexes available to a shaman with the heavens spirit to the witch list.

At 3rd level, the stargazer gains the Stars subdomain in addition to any domains he already has. His stargazer levels count as (and stack with) cleric levels when determining which domain abilities he gains and their effects. If he isn’t a cleric, the subdomain’s spells are added to his class spell list (if necessary) and to his spells known, spellbook, familiar, or similar source. Spells added this way may be cast only once per day, unless using the stars are right ability. He can use the stars are right ability regardless of his spellcasting class.

A stargazer gains certain abilities from the heavens oracle mystery as he gains levels as well. At 5th level, the stargazer gains the coat of many stars oracle revelation. At 7th level, he gains the star chart revelation. His stargazer levels and cleric levels count as (and stack with) oracle levels when he is determining the effects of these revelations.

D20 wrote:

As the two classes stack in relation to domains does that mean the Divine Paragon continues to gain its Diefic Obedience boons as described?

If not how do you do half class half character level diefic obedience?


I would say not....

The Stargazer levels stack in respect to domain abilities - since the deific boons are not domain abilities then by default this wouldn't apply.

No surprise the Stargazer was PFS banned.... a very very good PrC.


Deific obedience doesn't have anything set up for combining two different progressions. If you get the first boon at divine paragon cleric 5 then prestige out to a class which doesn't specify anything about boons (and you don't go back to cleric), you're going to get the second boon at 16 HD.


Arkham Joker wrote:

I would say not....

The Stargazer levels stack in respect to domain abilities - since the deific boons are not domain abilities then by default this wouldn't apply.

It is literally called a domain, and the class feature specifically alters domains


Let's make this more confusing then

Dieific Obedience on a Divine Paragon for 11 levels, picking up Sentinel Boons. Then multiclass. Does that 3rd boon at level 20 get turned into an Evangelist Boon?


Minigiant wrote:

Let's make this more confusing then

Dieific Obedience on a Divine Paragon for 11 levels, picking up Sentinel Boons. Then multiclass. Does that 3rd boon at level 20 get turned into an Evangelist Boon?

Exalted is the default for deific obedience not evangelist, but if you're not advancing that class feature at that time I think you're limited to the default, yes.

On the other point it depends how you read this part of the devoted domain class feature:

Quote:
For her other domain, she gains only its domain spells—she does not gain any of the granted powers of that domain. Instead, she must choose from the evangelist, exalted, or sentinel boons granted by her deity.

Is it saying that the boons are domain powers? Not quite, but it's pretty close. Your GMs Mileage May Vary.

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