Mike Onyd, the Fungus Leshy Monk **HELP ON BUILD NEEDED**


Advice


So we're considering a new game and my concept is worked out well, but my GF has got into her mind to play a poisonous mushroom flavored monk.

So she's going with a fungus heritage leshy ancestry.

Class is going to be Monk.

Free archetype is in effect.

Stats are likely going to be:
STR: 14
DEX: 18
CON: 14
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

Tangling vines stance is going to be in play at 8, maybe cobra stance?

I don't know what else to suggest to her that would fit...

The poisoner archetype helps, but is there a way to make it work with unarmed strikes ? (I told her about using weapons, she'd prefer fists)

Any suggestions on what would turn this into a fun thematical build are appreciated.

Scarab Sages

First, good selection of ability scores. Second, I do think the best solution is to talk to your GM, and see if they can't house-rule in the ability to poison unarmed attacks. Personally, I value players fulfilling their imagined build more than RAW, and I doubt think it would create any problems balance-wise.

This might be a harder sell, but maybe make it so that you can get the benefits of url=https://2e.aonprd.com/Heritages.aspx?ID=175]Poisonhide Grippli[/url] in exchange for a class feat or a mid-to-high=level ancestry feat.


I she's taking Poisoner, she might find these tables useful.

Poisoner Archetype


I have nothing to add except that I named my fungus Leshy Amy Nita.


Albatoonoe wrote:
I have nothing to add except that I named my fungus Leshy Amy Nita.

I see you are a gentleman of culture !


Try Poison Weapon
but house rule it to work for unarmed attacks.


Unless I am missing something, how can she get

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 14
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

?

The best I can do, given the voluntary flaw is

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 12 ( or 12 STR or 12 WIS, no chance to get 3x 14 and a 18 )
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

Eventually, she could consider lowering charisma to 8 to get 3x14.

Or getting amnesiac as BG, but it would be up to the DM determine its third stat ( and she'd need to play as an amnesiac).


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HumbleGamer wrote:

Unless I am missing something, how can she get

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 14
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

?

The best I can do, given the voluntary flaw is

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 12 ( or 12 STR or 12 WIS, no chance to get 3x 14 and a 18 )
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

Eventually, she could consider lowering charisma to 8 to get 3x14.

Or getting amnesiac as BG, but it would be up to the DM determine its third stat ( and she'd need to play as an amnesiac).

There is no voluntary flaw.

Leshies start with +2 in Con and Wis, a -2 to Int and a free bonus. Use the free bonus for Dex.
For background go with one that gives Dex or Str and use the free background choice for the other.
For Class, go with Dex.
Then in the last stage, use the 4 stats boost for Str, Dex, Con and Wis.

That gives you the 18 and 3 x 14.


Gilbin wrote:
HumbleGamer wrote:

Unless I am missing something, how can she get

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 14
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

?

The best I can do, given the voluntary flaw is

Quote:

STR: 14

DEX: 18
CON: 12 ( or 12 STR or 12 WIS, no chance to get 3x 14 and a 18 )
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

Eventually, she could consider lowering charisma to 8 to get 3x14.

Or getting amnesiac as BG, but it would be up to the DM determine its third stat ( and she'd need to play as an amnesiac).

There is no voluntary flaw.

Leshies start with +2 in Con and Wis, a -2 to Int and a free bonus. Use the free bonus for Dex.
For background go with one that gives Dex or Str and use the free background choice for the other.
For Class, go with Dex.
Then in the last stage, use the 4 stats boost for Str, Dex, Con and Wis.

That gives you the 18 and 3 x 14.

Oh yeah, I had the night mode on and couldn't see the drop down menù on the free stat.


So the build is:
(Free archetype is not allowed in the end, :'()

Ancestry: Leshy (fungus)
Background : Martial Artist
Class: Monk (Dex)

STR: 14
DEX: 18
CON: 14
INT: 8
WIS: 14
CHA: 10

Level 1 feat: Ki Strike, ancestry: Seedpod
Level 2: elemental fist (S); Titanic wrestler
Level 3: Athletics or Medicine increase, (G): toughness
Level 4: Stand Still (S): Battle medicine
Level 5: Ability boosts: STR/DEX/CON/WIS, (A): Speak with kindred, Medicine increase
Level 6: Ki blast, (S): Ward Medic
Level 7: Path to perfection: Reflex, (G): Fleet), Athletics to Master
Level 8: Tangled forest Stance, (S): Continual recovery
Level 9: Medicine to Master, (A) Spore Cloud
Level 10: Ability boosts: STR/DEX/CON/WIS, Wronged monk's wrath or sleeper hold, (S)TBD.

Overall this feels... ok... not being to take druid archetype kinda crimps her style, she wanted to use two actions to cast a sting spell then flurry of blows.

The goal of the build is to drag people into her mushroomy embrace and then keep them there as the rest of the party peppers them with spells and strikes (rest of party is Mastermind Rogue/Witch goblin, Kitsune Cleric of Soralion, Kobold evoker wizard dragon disciple (me))

Once they're in the embrace she uses Ki Blast or Wronged Monk's wrath or Spore cloud to slap debuffs or damage on them, and its hard for them to go away because of tangled forest stance and stand still.

The monk overall feels a bit... lackluster though? Like, on most rounds she's going to be stuck making 4 attacks with 2 of them at -8? Athletics participates to MAP so it doesn't help that much. No reach or way to drag people inside her mushroom embrace doesn't help either.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this ?

Scarab Sages

Assurance? Maybe supported by Demoralize? She could also Raise Shield.

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