So, the Dimensional Savant chain is one of those things that I, personally, think epitomizes fantasy combat... in every media it has been presented, it looks cool and fun.
However, the prerequisites require a 4th level spell, so 7th level fast progression spellcaster, or an 8th level UnChained Monk Ki Power... meaning the 4 feat chain generally doesn't even kick off until level 9. So the fun doesn't start until level 15, without retraining shenanigans.
Sad, but apparently this level of fun is restricted to high level play.
I have started compiling different ways to make these feats work, and would love to hear from anyone who has actually used Dimensional Savant... or the builds/ideas you have involving Dimensional Savant.
For the Travel Domain, I have a true nuetral Divine Paragon Cleric of Barzahk for five levels, picking the Travel Domain as their Devoted Domain and taking the Exalted Boons. Then 10 levels of the Evangelist prestige class. At 12, the 2nd Exalted Boon grants Endurance and Nimble Moves as bonus feats, paving the way for Horizon Walker from 16-20, if you wish. At level 14, the 3rd Evangelist Boon gives you a Terrain Dominance of your choice without even being a Horizon Walker... choose the Astral Plane, obviously.
So, at 15, you have Dimensional Savant, BAB +10, 7th level spells, 7D6 Channel, Agile Feet/Dimensional Hop Domain Powers, 3 Evangelist Boons (including the Astral Plane Terrain Dominance), 3 Exalted Boons, and a whole four feats at your disposal to round out the rest of the build... possibly five if you're Human.
Another Travel Domain Dimensional Savant idea involves the Wolf Shaman Druid, obviously taking the Travel Domain. Take Druid until 10, to get Beast Shape III Wild Shape (Wolf Shaman is two levels behind on Wild Shape). From here, 3 levels of Horizon Walker would probably be beneficial to get DimDoor as an SLA, which could be used during Wild Shape. I am trying to like Druids more, so getting Dimensional Savant on a Druid is intriguing for me.
I have been toying with the Weaponplay Oddity Ganzi going into Eldritch Knight without multiclassing. I haven't really explored this fully, yet, though.
I put together a single class UnMonk based on the Flash... it looks okay with Panther Style/Claw/Parry/Circling Mongoose/Dimensional Savant, but not exactly what I am looking for... not a fan of Unarmed Strikes, or Monks, or the Flash (for that matter)...
Has anyone actually ever played a character that used Dimensional Savant?
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Has anyone actually ever played a character that used Dimensional Savant?
Haven't found the feat investment worth it, unfortunately.
So the fun doesn't start until level 15, without retraining shenanigans.
Something you can do as a Fighter is to take the Flickering Step conduit feat, as it allows you to choose Dimensional Agility feats with your fighter bonus feats.
"Special: A fighter with this feat treats Dimensional Agility and any feat that lists it as a prerequisite as though they were combat feats when selecting fighter bonus feats."
If you want to get it online fast then I propose 6 levels of Ironbound Sword Samurai, 3 levels of Horizon Walker, and then 1 level of Fighter. We're using the Ironbound's level stacking of Samurai/Fighter levels to retroactively gain a total of four bonus fighter feats at level 10, just after we've taken Flickering Step.
Samurai 1-6
1 +1 Feat, Endurance (B)
3 +1 Feat
5 +1 Feat
6 +1 Combat Feat (B)
Horizon Walker 1-3
7 +1 Feat, Favored Terrain: Astral Plane
8 Terrain Mastery: Astral Plane
9 Flickering Step, Terrain Dominance: Astral Plane
Fighter 1
10 Dimensional Agility (B), Dimensional Assault (B), Dimensional Dervish (B), Dimensional Savant (B)
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So at level 10 you end up with [6+Wis] uses of Dimension Door per day, and the full Dimensional Savant feat path.
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how are you retroactively getting extra feats now?
are you saying that "Her samurai levels count as fighter levels and stack with fighter levels for the purposes of fighter and samurai prerequisites and class features." IS INTENDED to give bonus feats?
so a fighter 10/samurai 10 would have all the abilitie and feats of being 20th level in both classes? or even samurai 19/ fighter 1 will have all the fighter bonus feats like a 20th level fighter?
Intended? That's literally what it says. It's a really dumb class feature but that's what it does. You get to stack levels between fighter and samurai when calculating class features. It doesn't grant you class features you haven't unlocked yet, but the fighter's bonus feats is actually a single scaling class feature.
The 10/10 split would not get each other's capstones.
But the 19/1 split would grant you bonus feats like a lv 20 fighter.
Still, I brought it up because it was the single fastest build I could think of that didn't use retraining. It falls into the same camp of exploits like when somebody cheats PRC prequisites with the Sunrod equipment trick. It's quite likely that your GM just says "no".
Dimensional savant takes at least until level 12 generally without Ultimate Campaign retraining (or that poorly worded samurai archetype), and even dimensional assault is L9+ but if all you want to do is teleport and attack there are easier ways. Just avoid the ones which are too like dimension door - not acting after teleporting is a dimension door thing, not a general rule of teleporting.
Like dimension step (conjuration wizard, or VMC of same) for a swift action teleport, or magus spell combat with any appropriate spell to teleport as part of a full attack, or an arcanist exploit for move action teleport, or set up contingencies, or more.
My current monk just reached level 9. She started off with Weapon Focus Waveblade and both Ascetic Style and Form. She then got took a level in Crusader Cleric and got an extra Weapon Focus feat. And my GM's ruled that just Ascetic Style would let my weapon do my unarmed strike damage. So when I got to level 9, which was monk level 8, I retrained Ascetic Form and the extra Weapon Focus. So I now have the first 3 in the Dimensional line. Haven't had a reason to use it yet though. I can usually get to the opponent using Flying Kick and there isn't any point to teleporting around a single opponent until Savant is online and I get flanking.
After that, I plan to take the Nightmare Fist line. It looks pretty cool and she's half-drow so she can already cast Darkness and Faerie Fire.
Just that zip-zip-zip, consecutive tiny teleports... the ability to draw geometric shapes as you teleport back and forth THROUGH your target...
To my knowledge, Dimensional Savant is the only ability that allows that.
Flickering Step is awesome, if for nothing else it allows all those other classes that count as Fighter for their Bonus Feats (Magus, Warpriest, etc) to take the Dimensional Savant feats as Bonus Feats. Still locked behind 9 skill ranks, though. Interesting. Thank you for that.